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So I have an 11 year old mare who when is season is the sluttiest horse Ive ever met!
She pretty much fell into my lap back in July and she is fantastic, a great confidence giver and that's why I decided to take her on I have been out of riding for more than 10 years so had perfect written all over her.

My biggest issue though is when she is in season it is ridiculous, she is in a field with my sister gelding which she is now good with nothing to crazy but recently the YO giant gelding has been moved into the field between her field and the school he is lovely gets on with everyone but she goes crazy for him. This past Sunday she bronced my sister off of her into a fence and it was like watching someone rodeo a squealing pig because she wanted to be near the gelding. She is fine in herself back/teeth etc apart from being on the fatter side she is totally fine.

So after all my ramblings has anyone found any supplements that worked? I am considering putting her on Regumate if the vet agrees but that would be the very last resort. I know its coming into winter so wont have to worry about this till next year. But she knocked my confidence by having me off just after I got her (not season related) to the point that just a simple walk felt like galloping through the fields of hell at a speed faster than light lol. So seeing that has honestly terrified me more and I hate that I am so scared for no real reason I just want to get on a ride because I so badly want to but i get in the saddle and the fear comes back not even sure what I'm scared of really lol

Any help would be great :)
 
Mares can be awful when they first move to a new place and/or get put with new geldings, it automatically induces an extreme season in them. I'd just give her a bit of time to get used to the new boy, you said she's okay with your sister's gelding now so I'm sure that she'll calm down, once she realises that he can't impregnate her! You haven't had her very long so she'll still be settling in anyway. :)

I'd probably avoid riding her whilst she's in season tbh. Personally I don't find it fair on the horse, I'd probably try to kill someone if they strapped a saddle around my tummy and sat on my back whilst I'm on my time of month lol! (Not saying some mares can't be ridden whilst in season, all animals and people are different and suffer in different ways!)
Set her up to succeed, not to fail :)

Can't comment on regumate as never used it - I got my mare in July too! - but I'd probably wait until next year. If she's still mareish you could try a magnesium supplement or Oestress and see how you go.

Also, you say you've lost your confidence, but it's not season-related? I'd get some lessons in to boost your confidence with her, as things aren't going to go as smoothly as you like if you're nervous, regardless of whether she's in season or not!

Good luck :P
 
LilacWillow said:
Mares can be awful when they first move to a new place and/or get put with new geldings, it automatically induces an extreme season in them. I'd just give her a bit of time to get used to the new boy, you said she's okay with your sister's gelding now so I'm sure that she'll calm down, once she realises that he can't impregnate her! You haven't had her very long so she'll still be settling in anyway. :)

I'd probably avoid riding her whilst she's in season tbh. Personally I don't find it fair on the horse, I'd probably try to kill someone if they strapped a saddle around my tummy and sat on my back whilst I'm on my time of month lol! (Not saying some mares can't be ridden whilst in season, all animals and people are different and suffer in different ways!)
Set her up to succeed, not to fail :)

Can't comment on regumate as never used it - I got my mare in July too! - but I'd probably wait until next year. If she's still mareish you could try a magnesium supplement or Oestress and see how you go.

Also, you say you've lost your confidence, but it's not season-related? I'd get some lessons in to boost your confidence with her, as things aren't going to go as smoothly as you like if you're nervous, regardless of whether she's in season or not!

Good luck :P
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Thank you for such a lovely reply :)

I did wonder if its because she can now get closer tot he other gelding before he was in a field much further away from hers and she would see him every now and again when she was bought out to be tacked up etc.

I don't normally ride her in season because me either id be doing anything to get someone off me haha I only realised after her little strop, she isn't mareish in nature she doesn't get moody she will still come up and say hello etc she just gets slutty haha I think she is in her last season now and will hold out till next year before I do anything I think I dont really want to put her on regumate its bloody expensive and she pretty much lives off air being a cob haha but if it comes to it ill do anything to keep things calm :) They have a magnesium lick in their field so hopefully that may help a little.

Yea about a month in due to what we found out later was an ill fitting western saddle which all i can think of moved while trotting and all i remember is going out the side door landing pretty badly on my bum to the point I went deaf it was hard to see for the first half hour and then I walked like id crapped myself and still now I cant sit and lean back on a hard surface. I had planned on taking lessons again during winter just to make sure id remembered everything but since found out I am unemployed as of Wednesday :mad: its strange the thought of riding any other horse is fine doesn't scare me its just my mare she is basically and over stuffed sofa that looks like a Moomin I know it is all in my head just cant figure out how to get over it. Hopefully when I find a new job I can find a teacher that could come out to me to teach me on my mare.
 
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You need to get yourself checked over by a doctor.
I was bucked off my ID on the road, couldn't roll because of the nearby wall, didn't lose consciousness but couldn't see properly for a couple of seconds and developed a headache which was controlled with paracetamol. I thought I was fine but got the vet to her and didn't ride her for a few months. I did have a few RS lessons which didn't go particularly well.
3 months after the fall, I was taken ill at work, my colleagues thought I was having a heart attack but tests showed that I had trapped a nerve in the fall and that was causing problems. Physio sorted me out.
 
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No I didn't go get myself checked out the end cause apart from some butt pain I was fine I didn't have a headache or anything, it was just sore to stand and sit but I was back in the saddle a week later riding which actually helped strangely. its only been recently its started back up if I sit on a hard floor and lean back which inst very often but can feel it when I do.

I'm going to have a look into Oestress I think :)
 
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PollyP99 said:
I use herbal mare on my mare for season control, you can get it with or without valerian (depends if you want to compete), she has had a very chilled summer on it and it won't break the bank. Not a sign of seasonal activity and very little girth sensitivity (which was her issue) in season.

http://www.naturalhorsesupplies.co.uk/Moody+Mares+and+Riggy+Geldings+PVlETXdBVE02a25jdmRXWjBGMlk
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Thanks Ill check this out as well :) No she doesn't compete and probably never will at most she may hunt a season or 2 but that wont be till earliest next year so will have a look at both versions. I will do anything for a chilled time in the fields haha
 
I could have written your post !! Im exactly where you are. I got my new mare in Feb/March after a long break, and were going great guns until April when she changed overnight. She started doing MASSIVE spooks and nearly had me off so many times. My confidence totally went and I was pretty much back to being on the lead rein. Having not had a mare for many many years, i actually 'forgot' about their seasons. When I looked into it, I realised her behaviour was hormones. Started keeping a diary and sure enough, 2 great weeks, 1 horrendous one. So I loaded her up with every single supplement available (please people, dont criticise me for it) and got myself a lesson from a well known and relatively tough riding instructor who gave me a huge kick up the a&se. We turned a corner, and got out competing a little. I dont know if it was my change in approach (tougher) or the supplements, but things did improve - my seriously dented confidence started to return (very slightly - im still v nervous). So shes on a herbal mare supplement, has been on pure chase berry, magenium, Oestress and brewers yeast. However, TBH shes still v hormonal. She has improved slightly, but I cant get much sense out of her for 1 week out of three. Theres just no point riding her as its just a battle and no fun for either of us. I spoke with the vet and she agreed to Regumate so next year I think thats the way we'll go. When I think what I am spending on supplements, for the limited improvement I had may as well spend a little more and hopefully get better results and actually be able to ride her all next summer without have a third of the time off due to her hormones. I think to some extent, all the supplements may be more of a placebo, and just helps the rider 'think' the horse is better. Maybe they do help, but not much in my experience.
 
If either OP or notimetoride are feeding alfalfa, it would be a good idea to cut it out. Alfalfa contains phyto-oestrogens, which can add to a mare's own hormones and make matters worse.
 
Hi. No , shes not on alfalfa(ive never fed it to any horse ive had). Simply fed Mollichaff Calmer and shes out 24/7. dont get me wrong, shes a star most of the time - just loses her head at 'that' time of the month. Shes bred 2 foals so she's that way inclined I think. Next spring will prob go with Regumate and eat bread and jam all summer whilst paying for it
 
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I could have written your post !! Im exactly where you are. I got my new mare in Feb/March after a long break, and were going great guns until April when she changed overnight. She started doing MASSIVE spooks and nearly had me off so many times. My confidence totally went and I was pretty much back to being on the lead rein. Having not had a mare for many many years, i actually 'forgot' about their seasons. When I looked into it, I realised her behaviour was hormones. Started keeping a diary and sure enough, 2 great weeks, 1 horrendous one. So I loaded her up with every single supplement available (please people, dont criticise me for it) and got myself a lesson from a well known and relatively tough riding instructor who gave me a huge kick up the a&se. We turned a corner, and got out competing a little. I dont know if it was my change in approach (tougher) or the supplements, but things did improve - my seriously dented confidence started to return (very slightly - im still v nervous). So shes on a herbal mare supplement, has been on pure chase berry, magenium, Oestress and brewers yeast. However, TBH shes still v hormonal. She has improved slightly, but I cant get much sense out of her for 1 week out of three. Theres just no point riding her as its just a battle and no fun for either of us. I spoke with the vet and she agreed to Regumate so next year I think thats the way we'll go. When I think what I am spending on supplements, for the limited improvement I had may as well spend a little more and hopefully get better results and actually be able to ride her all next summer without have a third of the time off due to her hormones. I think to some extent, all the supplements may be more of a placebo, and just helps the rider 'think' the horse is better. Maybe they do help, but not much in my experience.
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This makes me feel much better to know I'm not the only one, I always said Id never get a mare because our personalities would clash and it just wouldn't work but I cant imagine life without her she may be a grumpy bitch that wont give me a hug at times but she is stuck with me haha I am going to see how she goes with some supplements going into summer next year see if it helps any if not speak with my vet. :) She came from a horse sales and as far as we know was just left in a field so I'm not sure if how she reacts is from her past but she is still great for me even with the little hiccups :)
 
Pearlsasinger said:
If either OP or notimetoride are feeding alfalfa, it would be a good idea to cut it out. Alfalfa contains phyto-oestrogens, which can add to a mare's own hormones and make matters worse.
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Nope she isn't being fed anything other than grass in her paddock over winter she will get hay and a handful of Spillers cool Fibre with maybe some hoof supplement as she does have cosmetic damage to her front hoof. She will only be given some feed so she doesn't try and steal the appaloosa's dinner that she is in with haha She is a Cob X Gypsy Vanner so basically lives on air.
 
I think there are a lot of people with hormonal mares tbh. Different methods of dealing with it, but i just dont ride when shes in season. If youre going down the supplements route, Im not sure Oestress really did much. I think what helped the most was pure Chasteberry (Agnus Castus). You can get it from Natural Horse Supplies (they have an ebay shop) and its far cheaper than using branded products. As for me - Ive given up on the 'natural' approach and am going to put her on Regumate next year :-o
 
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Hi. No , shes not on alfalfa(ive never fed it to any horse ive had). Simply fed Mollichaff Calmer and shes out 24/7. dont get me wrong, shes a star most of the time - just loses her head at 'that' time of the month. Shes bred 2 foals so she's that way inclined I think. Next spring will prob go with Regumate and eat bread and jam all summer whilst paying for it
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I have just read the ingredients and if your horse were mine I would ring the manufacturer and check what is in their 'fibre peets. I would be very surprised if they didn't contain alfalfa, most Molli... products do. If so, there's your answer! You might be able to avoid bread and jam after all, lol!
 
Pearlsasinger said:
I have just read the ingredients and if your horse were mine I would ring the manufacturer and check what is in their 'fibre peets. I would be very surprised if they didn't contain alfalfa, most Molli... products do. If so, there's your answer! You might be able to avoid bread and jam after all, lol!
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Well I never. I will email them. This could be interesting . . . . .
 
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