Smoking and horses...

I saw one of Irelands top eventers having a fag whilst showing off two of her horses at goresbridge sales recently!
 
Would never and have never smoked on horseback. Any smoking is done well away from the stables, put out in a little pot with water in and popped in pocket. I hate seeing chucked tabs lying around, no matter where it is.
 
Tormenta said:
I hate seeing chucked tabs lying around, no matter where it is.
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I hate that too!!! Why do people not understand that cigarette ends are litter too!!! People who wouldn't dream of chucking a crisp packet on the floor suddenly think it is fine if it is a cigarette butt - gross! They should be ashamed!
 
Pleased to say now given up (4 yrs ago) but not pleased to say yes, i used to smoke on board my poor appaloosa, who is a rock and never bothered. Yes, put roll up out on boot sole, never started a fire. Never, ever, ever smoked anywhere near stable!! Dur, common sense!
 
smoking is obviously banned in enclosed spaces ie: stable blocks...I respect that, no problem

but it is entirely up the individual as to when and where they smoke when out in the open air.

Since the smoking ban, we are only allowed to smoke outside....but in cities etc, have extra ashtrays/recepticles been put up as a consequence.....No!!! I do always nub my ciggie out with my foot and put the nub end in my pocket no matter where I am...but I do know of someone who was fined £75 for putting there ciggie end in the gutter as there were no ashtrays around...:eek::mad::mad::(:mad::mad:
 
royal said:
smoking is obviously banned in enclosed spaces ie: stable blocks...I respect that, no problem

but it is entirely up the individual as to when and where they smoke when out in the open air.

Since the smoking ban, we are only allowed to smoke outside....but in cities etc, have extra ashtrays/recepticles been put up as a consequence.....No!!! I do always nub my ciggie out with my foot and put the nub end in my pocket no matter where I am...but I do know of someone who was fined £75 for putting there ciggie end in the gutter as there were no ashtrays around...:eek::mad::mad::(:mad::mad:
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Quite right too!

Just because there are no bins doesn't mean that you drop litter, and just because there are no dog poo bins doesn't mean you don't scoop it (or that you scoop it and leave the bag hanging on a fence/tree branch) so why shoul lack of ashtrays excuse dropping fag ends???????:mad::mad:

You can buy special little folding ashtrays that are pocket sized so that you can take your litter home with you!
 
Katt said:
Quite right too!

Just because there are no bins doesn't mean that you drop litter, and just because there are no dog poo bins doesn't mean you don't scoop it (or that you scoop it and leave the bag hanging on a fence/tree branch) so why shoul lack of ashtrays excuse dropping fag ends???????:mad::mad:

You can buy special little folding ashtrays that are pocket sized so that you can take your litter home with you!
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When it was made illegal to leave dog foul on the pavements, special bins were erected....why not the same with ashtrays :mad::mad::!!!

And if its ok to leave dog mess hanging on a tree or fence, why are you so bothered about fag ends on the floor!!

But litter is a whole different argument...and I guess I have gone off topic!

Anyway, each to their own with smoking, but I do think its up to the individual...I always move away from people who don't smoke and if I smoke on a hack, I always move to the back of the group as my horse is fine with that....
 
I smoke and I never do it in stables,barns, or whilst holding my horses, or riding.

I smoke on the yard outside my stable whilst sitting on my storage box and my cig end goes under the tap them in my wheelbarrow.

I choose to smoke but my horse does not so I would not smoke right by them neither would I by a child
 
royal said:
When it was made illegal to leave dog foul on the pavements, special bins were erected....why not the same with ashtrays :mad::mad::!!!

And if its ok to leave dog mess hanging on a tree or fence, why are you so bothered about fag ends on the floor!!

But litter is a whole different argument...and I guess I have gone off topic!

Anyway, each to their own with smoking, but I do think its up to the individual...I always move away from people who don't smoke and if I smoke on a hack, I always move to the back of the group as my horse is fine with that....
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1. I didn't say it was ok to leave dog poo hanging on a tree or fence, I was saying that this isn't acceptable.

2. Bins for dog poo were errected in some places (municipal parks mainly) just like there are ashtrays in some places too. There are several around the city centre where I live, at the entrances to the shopping centre, outside lots of pubs and most office blocks. But the lack of a bin is no excuse for leaving litter/fag ends/dog poo on the floor.

3. Litter isn't a different arguement - fag ends are litter, and littering is part of the discussion as people commented that one reason they don't smoke while riding is the difficulty of safely disposing of their butt.

So what do you do with your cigarette after you have finished???? Sling it on the ground to create an eyesore and maybe even a fire hazard?????
 
Katt said:
1. I didn't say it was ok to leave dog poo hanging on a tree or fence, I was saying that this isn't acceptable.

2. Bins for dog poo were errected in some places (municipal parks mainly) just like there are ashtrays in some places too. There are several around the city centre where I live, at the entrances to the shopping centre, outside lots of pubs and most office blocks. But the lack of a bin is no excuse for leaving litter/fag ends/dog poo on the floor.

3. Litter isn't a different arguement - fag ends are litter, and littering is part of the discussion as people commented that one reason they don't smoke while riding is the difficulty of safely disposing of their butt.

So what do you do with your cigarette after you have finished???? Sling it on the ground to create an eyesore and maybe even a fire hazard?????
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Excuse me!!!!!! ......I already said in my previous post that I always nub out my cig with my foot and put the nub in my pocket, no matter where I am....:D

But the fact still remains that whilst we are still 'allowed' to smoke outdoors, I fully intend to do so! I have already said in previous post that I do respect non-smokers and move away from them etc...

this topic has been done to death previously and I guess everyone has to agree to disagree.......
 
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royal said:
Excuse me!!!!!! ......I already said in my previous post that I always nub out my cig with my foot and put the nub in my pocket, no matter where I am....:D

But the fact still remains that whilst we are still 'allowed' to smoke outdoors, I fully intend to do so! I have already said in previous post that I do respect non-smokers and move away from them etc...

this topic has been done to death previously and I guess everyone has to agree to disagree.......
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Sorry if I missed your explanation of what you do with your cigarette ends. I have no problem with people smoking outside in general (although the loitering hoards round doorways can be a bit unpleasent). But I do have a problem with the litter.

You seemed to be suggesting that it was wrong that somone got fined for dropping a cigarette end, that was what I was taking issue with. See no need to agree to disagree on that, I think littering of any sort is disgusting and inexcusable.
 
I fail too see how it is possible to smoke on a horse without dropping at least a little hot ash on your horse (unless you have an anti-gravity machine too?)

Also, you may choose to smoke but your horse does not, so why inflict it on him/her too?!
 
Ewwww, its bad enough to smoke, but on a horse it looks DISGUSTING. Can't see the attraction myself. Surely all you smokers CAN survive a ride without the need to have a fag? It really gives the whole horse riding scene a bad look, puts the 'upper' into class I reckon.
They claim animals can suffer from passive smoking too, and that if you do smoke around them its harmful, so in my opinion your selfish.
Such a shame that still too many people smoke. Those who are 'pub football people' and horse riders seem to be at the top end of smokers IMHO.
 
Ruthnmeg said:
Ewwww, its bad enough to smoke, but on a horse it looks DISGUSTING. Can't see the attraction myself. Surely all you smokers CAN survive a ride without the need to have a fag? It really gives the whole horse riding scene a bad look, puts the 'upper' into class I reckon.
They claim animals can suffer from passive smoking too, and that if you do smoke around them its harmful, so in my opinion your selfish.
Such a shame that still too many people smoke. Those who are 'pub football people' and horse riders seem to be at the top end of smokers IMHO.
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Ok, as a smoker I already hang my head in shame as a modern leper:p but the idea of a horse suffering from passive smoking because a rider smokes out in the open air? Presumably nobody rides on the road if they worry about their horse's respiratory system that much because the car exhaust fumes may be dangerous and selfish also.......

As for disgusting or chavvy - well that depends on your perception of such things. I personally don't like bling, pink or KP clothing (to name just 3 :o) but I try not to judge people in such a shallow way, by just appearance or MY standards, I prefer to be try and be a slightly better person that (even if I cringe when the 15 yo dressed head to toe in pink KP on her hairy pony who is blinged to the nth degree asks to hack out with me:D:eek:)
 
cbmcts said:
(even if I cringe when the 15 yo dressed head to toe in pink KP on her hairy pony who is blinged to the nth degree asks to hack out with me:D:eek:)
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I do hope you make them walk a respectable distance behind you so that no-one actually thinks you're out on a hack together and know each other!! :D
 
Queenbee87 said:
I do hope you make them walk a respectable distance behind you so that no-one actually thinks you're out on a hack together and know each other!! :D
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LOL....no I make her stay right beside me - they can be seen from space so much better than hi viz :D:D
 
cbmcts said:
Ok, as a smoker I already hang my head in shame as a modern leper:p but the idea of a horse suffering from passive smoking because a rider smokes out in the open air? Presumably nobody rides on the road if they worry about their horse's respiratory system that much because the car exhaust fumes may be dangerous and selfish also.......

As for disgusting or chavvy - well that depends on your perception of such things. I personally don't like bling, pink or KP clothing (to name just 3 :o) but I try not to judge people in such a shallow way, by just appearance or MY standards, I prefer to be try and be a slightly better person that (even if I cringe when the 15 yo dressed head to toe in pink KP on her hairy pony who is blinged to the nth degree asks to hack out with me:D:eek:)
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Well said!!! (At my age, I couldn't look chavvy if I tried! lol)
 
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