So-called "Rescue sites" Charity comes out AGAINST!!!
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MurphysMinder
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Here, here (have replied in NL).
Gonetofrance
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Let's hope that note is taken of it ........
M_G
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I was about to post the same thing
Rollin
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Where are the horses for loan?
A contact on another forum has been looking without success for months. She is knowledgeable and experienced based in East Anglia and is not picky 14.2hh-16.2hh young or old riding horse who is good in traffic.
I did a survey of UK rescue sites three months ago and did not find many riding horses available. I purchased my second horse several years ago because ILPH had a waiting list.
Perhaps there should be a UK Rescue and Rehoming websit.
A contact on another forum has been looking without success for months. She is knowledgeable and experienced based in East Anglia and is not picky 14.2hh-16.2hh young or old riding horse who is good in traffic.
I did a survey of UK rescue sites three months ago and did not find many riding horses available. I purchased my second horse several years ago because ILPH had a waiting list.
Perhaps there should be a UK Rescue and Rehoming websit.
JM07
Well-Known Member
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Perhaps there should be a UK Rescue and Rehoming websit.
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there is...
its called .....
THE BLUE CROSS
WHW
REDWINGS
HORSETRUST
HORSEWORLD
HAPPA
TRALLWM FARM
EMW.......
take your pick......at least these KNOW what they're doing.
Perhaps there should be a UK Rescue and Rehoming websit.
[/ QUOTE ]
there is...
its called .....
THE BLUE CROSS
WHW
REDWINGS
HORSETRUST
HORSEWORLD
HAPPA
TRALLWM FARM
EMW.......
take your pick......at least these KNOW what they're doing.
Rollin
Well-Known Member
The problem is that there is no one site for people searching to rehome.
There are plenty of companion animals or horses who are unsuitable for novice riders. People who are looking for sensible riding horses spend a lot of time combing through different rescue sites and sale sites.
Hence my suggestion.
There are plenty of companion animals or horses who are unsuitable for novice riders. People who are looking for sensible riding horses spend a lot of time combing through different rescue sites and sale sites.
Hence my suggestion.
Happy Horse
Well-Known Member
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The problem is that there is no one site for people searching to rehome.
There are plenty of companion animals or horses who are unsuitable for novice riders. People who are looking for sensible riding horses spend a lot of time combing through different rescue sites and sale sites.
Hence my suggestion.
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Probably because not many sensible riding horses end up needing 'rescuing'. It is generally horses with problems or that have suffered from neglect and possibly psychological issues. Rehoming a rescue should not be looked at as a cheap way to end up with the perfect horse.
The problem is that there is no one site for people searching to rehome.
There are plenty of companion animals or horses who are unsuitable for novice riders. People who are looking for sensible riding horses spend a lot of time combing through different rescue sites and sale sites.
Hence my suggestion.
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Probably because not many sensible riding horses end up needing 'rescuing'. It is generally horses with problems or that have suffered from neglect and possibly psychological issues. Rehoming a rescue should not be looked at as a cheap way to end up with the perfect horse.
competitiondiva
Well-Known Member
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Perhaps there should be a UK Rescue and Rehoming websit.
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there is...
its called .....
THE BLUE CROSS
WHW
REDWINGS
HORSETRUST
HORSEWORLD
HAPPA
TRALLWM FARM
EMW.......
take your pick......at least these KNOW what they're doing.
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Don't forget RSPCA,
http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satellit...d=1236788796418
I was only looking through their website of horses/ponies for adoption the other day and was struck by the increased amount of them!
As it has already been said the 'sain' riding horses don't often end up needing rescuing and those that do by the time they've been badly treated and are then rescued are no longer 'sain'!
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Perhaps there should be a UK Rescue and Rehoming websit.
[/ QUOTE ]
there is...
its called .....
THE BLUE CROSS
WHW
REDWINGS
HORSETRUST
HORSEWORLD
HAPPA
TRALLWM FARM
EMW.......
take your pick......at least these KNOW what they're doing.
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Don't forget RSPCA,
http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satellit...d=1236788796418
I was only looking through their website of horses/ponies for adoption the other day and was struck by the increased amount of them!
As it has already been said the 'sain' riding horses don't often end up needing rescuing and those that do by the time they've been badly treated and are then rescued are no longer 'sain'!
Rollin
Well-Known Member
The argument from the UK charities is that people looking to rescue a horse should do so in the UK. You are all agreeing that there are not many riding horses available from UK charities?
Plenty of good horses go for slaughter in France, which is why these charities attract customers from the UK looking for a cheap horse.
Infection Risks
Any horse imported to the UK from France (not just rescues)under the tripartate agreement presents a possible risk to British horses. The French National Stud only requires horses going to stud to be tested for CEM and not EVA even for natural covering. One on my mares contracted EVA while at stud in France. She was in a field next to a horse imported from Romania.
A year ago Normandy had a major outbreak of EVA.
Plenty of good horses go for slaughter in France, which is why these charities attract customers from the UK looking for a cheap horse.
Infection Risks
Any horse imported to the UK from France (not just rescues)under the tripartate agreement presents a possible risk to British horses. The French National Stud only requires horses going to stud to be tested for CEM and not EVA even for natural covering. One on my mares contracted EVA while at stud in France. She was in a field next to a horse imported from Romania.
A year ago Normandy had a major outbreak of EVA.
BankEndRescue
Well-Known Member
Let me put one thing straight here. This mare is not being funded by Bank End, the money that I was donating is my owm personal money, nothing to do with Bank End. The rest was being raised by other individuals and should that target not be met then all money donated thus far will be returned.
I would never consider traveling a horse in such poor condition and if we do proceed then she will be liveried at a yard that I pesonally will be checking out for suitability. Vet checks and bloods will be done before and decision for her to travel is made. I am perfectly aware of the risks involved in importing an equine from France and I won't for one moment risk any infection.
I have always maintained that I only had an issue with unfit horses being sold/traveled, long, unregulated journey times and no vet checks being done. Where people spend their money has nothing to do with any one else and who's to tell them how it can be spent?
As for the allegations that I am making a profit through Bank End, I suggest that you do your homework. I don't take one penny from Bnk End funds, I have in fact spent the last 2 years funding things myself. Yes, we have to charge people who no longer want to keep their horses, how else would you suggest we fund things? For example, a dutch warmblood mare with a knee fracture came in, we DIDN'T as it happens charge that owner but have you any idea how much it cost us to nurse that horse to fitness? Probably not but it was a lot!
In one breath owners are condemned for placing their retirees in my care without funding them, then in the next I'm accused of profiteering because we expect a donation to be made. We don't turn away horses that are needy, donations or not.
Mrs M, I said on 2 occassions that I was happy to help you with your pony but each time you said it was all in hand. I hope that you DO get his situation sorted out, but remember, YOU contacted me.
Also, before I'm accused of taking in more horses when I "haven't got room" as you seem to think....how do you know how many horses I have rehomed lately? How do you know if I have more land than the 30 acres I had 6 months ago?
Gonetofrance et al will tear anything I say to shreds but I rather hoped that the rest of you could think for yourselves.
I won't get into further debate on this, my phone number is public, I'm sure you know how to find it, Finnishlapphund will direct you to it, she's spending boringly long amounts of time browsing my website
I would never consider traveling a horse in such poor condition and if we do proceed then she will be liveried at a yard that I pesonally will be checking out for suitability. Vet checks and bloods will be done before and decision for her to travel is made. I am perfectly aware of the risks involved in importing an equine from France and I won't for one moment risk any infection.
I have always maintained that I only had an issue with unfit horses being sold/traveled, long, unregulated journey times and no vet checks being done. Where people spend their money has nothing to do with any one else and who's to tell them how it can be spent?
As for the allegations that I am making a profit through Bank End, I suggest that you do your homework. I don't take one penny from Bnk End funds, I have in fact spent the last 2 years funding things myself. Yes, we have to charge people who no longer want to keep their horses, how else would you suggest we fund things? For example, a dutch warmblood mare with a knee fracture came in, we DIDN'T as it happens charge that owner but have you any idea how much it cost us to nurse that horse to fitness? Probably not but it was a lot!
In one breath owners are condemned for placing their retirees in my care without funding them, then in the next I'm accused of profiteering because we expect a donation to be made. We don't turn away horses that are needy, donations or not.
Mrs M, I said on 2 occassions that I was happy to help you with your pony but each time you said it was all in hand. I hope that you DO get his situation sorted out, but remember, YOU contacted me.
Also, before I'm accused of taking in more horses when I "haven't got room" as you seem to think....how do you know how many horses I have rehomed lately? How do you know if I have more land than the 30 acres I had 6 months ago?
Gonetofrance et al will tear anything I say to shreds but I rather hoped that the rest of you could think for yourselves.
I won't get into further debate on this, my phone number is public, I'm sure you know how to find it, Finnishlapphund will direct you to it, she's spending boringly long amounts of time browsing my website
Gonetofrance
Well-Known Member
A huge proportion of these horses from the rescue sites are unrideable also. What they say on the sites is very often at odds with the reality of the situation.
Have you followed the progress of these horses once in the UK, rollin? Very very few of these 'rescues' end up in safe homes. Some are dead, some will be soon, and loads have been sold on in an already overloaded UK market.
We have followed the situation very closely, which is what prompted us to act, and is why the major welfare associations are against the practice.
As regards this TB mare, the UK has some fantastic rehoming charities for ex-racehorses, with the animals assessed and rehabbed before going to new homes.
Surely that is a more sensible choice than buying an obviously injured, unfit and possibly unrideable mare....... and putting her through the journey back to the UK.
She will be costing well over £1000 to get her to the UK. That money would be far better spent supporting Greatwood, Moorcroft, ROR, HEROS, TRC or an equivalent charity........ not lining the pockets of French dealing sites.
Have you followed the progress of these horses once in the UK, rollin? Very very few of these 'rescues' end up in safe homes. Some are dead, some will be soon, and loads have been sold on in an already overloaded UK market.
We have followed the situation very closely, which is what prompted us to act, and is why the major welfare associations are against the practice.
As regards this TB mare, the UK has some fantastic rehoming charities for ex-racehorses, with the animals assessed and rehabbed before going to new homes.
Surely that is a more sensible choice than buying an obviously injured, unfit and possibly unrideable mare....... and putting her through the journey back to the UK.
She will be costing well over £1000 to get her to the UK. That money would be far better spent supporting Greatwood, Moorcroft, ROR, HEROS, TRC or an equivalent charity........ not lining the pockets of French dealing sites.
M_G
Well-Known Member
So Toni who will be paying for the general up keep of the mare? I bet that will fall to BER donations which on the whole are given to help UK equines
M_G
Well-Known Member
Its nice to hear you have more room
TGM
Well-Known Member
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You are all agreeing that there are not many riding horses available from UK charities?
[/ QUOTE ] Actually most people were saying that it is hard to find 'perfect' riding horses through UK charities, although not impossible as you can see from the letter in Horse & Hound this week about a fabulous PC pony acquired through the WHW.
However, many of the riding horses/ponies available through UK charities will have some sort of 'if', such as this chap:
http://www.bluecross.org.uk/web/site/Ado...ation=&pg=4
who is only suitable as a hack due to a stifle problem.
The thing is, the UK charities carefully assess their animals and are honest about their problems, so they end up in the most suitable homes. The French horses are also likely to have 'ifs' and problems, but you only find out what they are after you get them home!
You are all agreeing that there are not many riding horses available from UK charities?
[/ QUOTE ] Actually most people were saying that it is hard to find 'perfect' riding horses through UK charities, although not impossible as you can see from the letter in Horse & Hound this week about a fabulous PC pony acquired through the WHW.
However, many of the riding horses/ponies available through UK charities will have some sort of 'if', such as this chap:
http://www.bluecross.org.uk/web/site/Ado...ation=&pg=4
who is only suitable as a hack due to a stifle problem.
The thing is, the UK charities carefully assess their animals and are honest about their problems, so they end up in the most suitable homes. The French horses are also likely to have 'ifs' and problems, but you only find out what they are after you get them home!
TGM
Well-Known Member
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The problem is that there is no one site for people searching to rehome.
There are plenty of companion animals or horses who are unsuitable for novice riders. People who are looking for sensible riding horses spend a lot of time combing through different rescue sites and sale sites.
Hence my suggestion.
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That is a good idea, as long as all partners in the site are reputable equine charities who have a policy of carefully assessing all animals and ensuring homes are suitable. Perhaps you could write to the charities that JM7 has listed and suggest they consider liaising with each other to create a central web database of horses requiring rehoming?
The problem is that there is no one site for people searching to rehome.
There are plenty of companion animals or horses who are unsuitable for novice riders. People who are looking for sensible riding horses spend a lot of time combing through different rescue sites and sale sites.
Hence my suggestion.
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That is a good idea, as long as all partners in the site are reputable equine charities who have a policy of carefully assessing all animals and ensuring homes are suitable. Perhaps you could write to the charities that JM7 has listed and suggest they consider liaising with each other to create a central web database of horses requiring rehoming?
SirenaXVI
Well-Known Member
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The problem is that there is no one site for people searching to rehome.
There are plenty of companion animals or horses who are unsuitable for novice riders. People who are looking for sensible riding horses spend a lot of time combing through different rescue sites and sale sites.
Hence my suggestion.
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Probably because not many sensible riding horses end up needing 'rescuing'. It is generally horses with problems or that have suffered from neglect and possibly psychological issues. Rehoming a rescue should not be looked at as a cheap way to end up with the perfect horse.
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Round of applause Happy Horse - nail on head!
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The problem is that there is no one site for people searching to rehome.
There are plenty of companion animals or horses who are unsuitable for novice riders. People who are looking for sensible riding horses spend a lot of time combing through different rescue sites and sale sites.
Hence my suggestion.
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Probably because not many sensible riding horses end up needing 'rescuing'. It is generally horses with problems or that have suffered from neglect and possibly psychological issues. Rehoming a rescue should not be looked at as a cheap way to end up with the perfect horse.
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Round of applause Happy Horse - nail on head!
Gonetofrance
Well-Known Member
As a genuine welfare asso in France, ERF do NOT take a rehoming fee from the donating owner.
FinnishLapphund
There's no cow on the ice
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(Erased a lot of text, so that my reply wouldn't take up so much space.)
Gonetofrance et al will tear anything I say to shreds but I rather hoped that the rest of you could think for yourselves.
I won't get into further debate on this, my phone number is public, I'm sure you know how to find it, Finnishlapphund will direct you to it, she's spending boringly long amounts of time browsing my website
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There can't be much happening on your website if you thinks I spend much time browsing it!
Let me see, I have currently oops
, 54 tabs open with different internet pages, one is BER's, another one is f.ex. about the Bombina frogs.
I have read through some of BER's pages once, other than that I presume it is only one page that refreshes itself when I start up my internet window each morning? Although there was one day when I did press the updating-button myself a few times but does it count as browsing if I'm still on the same page?
Hm, I thought I went through my number of open tabs recently and closed a whole lot of them hm
, the problem with BER's site is that I don't really want it amongst my bookmarks...
(Erased a lot of text, so that my reply wouldn't take up so much space.)
Gonetofrance et al will tear anything I say to shreds but I rather hoped that the rest of you could think for yourselves.
I won't get into further debate on this, my phone number is public, I'm sure you know how to find it, Finnishlapphund will direct you to it, she's spending boringly long amounts of time browsing my website
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Let me see, I have currently oops
I have read through some of BER's pages once, other than that I presume it is only one page that refreshes itself when I start up my internet window each morning? Although there was one day when I did press the updating-button myself a few times but does it count as browsing if I'm still on the same page?
Hm, I thought I went through my number of open tabs recently and closed a whole lot of them hm
spaniel
Well-Known Member
FL.....54 tabs???????? How the heck??????
Spring cleaning woman!!!!!!
Spring cleaning woman!!!!!!
Flame_
Well-Known Member
I think fair play for asking for a donation from people acquiring horses re-homed by you, I have always thought this to be standard practice. Not sure about asking people donating a horse for money, but since you are, in effect providing a service by taking on their responsibility, I don't have a problem with this if it goes towards your running costs.
I'm still not sure what it is that's made you decide rescuing French horses is now the way forward. You used to seem quite sensible.
Especially while reputable charities are publicly stating why they disapprove of it.
Oh well, I'm glad the powers that be are doing what they can to help protect our UK horses from infections.
I'm still not sure what it is that's made you decide rescuing French horses is now the way forward. You used to seem quite sensible.
Oh well, I'm glad the powers that be are doing what they can to help protect our UK horses from infections.
FinnishLapphund
There's no cow on the ice
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The argument from the UK charities is that people looking to rescue a horse should do so in the UK. You are all agreeing that there are not many riding horses available from UK charities?
Plenty of good horses go for slaughter in France, which is why these charities attract customers from the UK looking for a cheap horse.
Infection Risks
Any horse imported to the UK from France (not just rescues)under the tripartate agreement presents a possible risk to British horses. The French National Stud only requires horses going to stud to be tested for CEM and not EVA even for natural covering. One on my mares contracted EVA while at stud in France. She was in a field next to a horse imported from Romania.
A year ago Normandy had a major outbreak of EVA.
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I only have a vague memory about reading about the risks with EVA and horse breeding in Swedish Ridsport a few years ago, since I'm not involved in breeding I didn't think it would be any information I would need to know so I'm sorry in advance if my memory is wrong, but as far as I recall, in general if your horse gets EVA it only causes problems for you, your horse and any future breeding plans that you have for your horse. If your horse does get EVA, I don't think there is any risk that a government official comes and tells you, that your horse and (possibly) other horses on "your" yard that it has had contact with, must be euthanized?
If I'm correct, then though I understand that it causes problems, I don't think it is quite the same.
To make that analogy, if I get a sexual transmittable disease on my vacation, it makes a lot of difference if it is HIV or something else. Regardless of what (some) other people seem to think today, I still think of HIV as a deadly disease since there is no cure and if you want to survive you need to take x amount of pills on a daily basis, other such diseases can cause f.ex. infertility and although that can be heartbreaking for some, it isn't deadly.
The argument from the UK charities is that people looking to rescue a horse should do so in the UK. You are all agreeing that there are not many riding horses available from UK charities?
Plenty of good horses go for slaughter in France, which is why these charities attract customers from the UK looking for a cheap horse.
Infection Risks
Any horse imported to the UK from France (not just rescues)under the tripartate agreement presents a possible risk to British horses. The French National Stud only requires horses going to stud to be tested for CEM and not EVA even for natural covering. One on my mares contracted EVA while at stud in France. She was in a field next to a horse imported from Romania.
A year ago Normandy had a major outbreak of EVA.
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I only have a vague memory about reading about the risks with EVA and horse breeding in Swedish Ridsport a few years ago, since I'm not involved in breeding I didn't think it would be any information I would need to know so I'm sorry in advance if my memory is wrong, but as far as I recall, in general if your horse gets EVA it only causes problems for you, your horse and any future breeding plans that you have for your horse. If your horse does get EVA, I don't think there is any risk that a government official comes and tells you, that your horse and (possibly) other horses on "your" yard that it has had contact with, must be euthanized?
If I'm correct, then though I understand that it causes problems, I don't think it is quite the same.
To make that analogy, if I get a sexual transmittable disease on my vacation, it makes a lot of difference if it is HIV or something else. Regardless of what (some) other people seem to think today, I still think of HIV as a deadly disease since there is no cure and if you want to survive you need to take x amount of pills on a daily basis, other such diseases can cause f.ex. infertility and although that can be heartbreaking for some, it isn't deadly.
FinnishLapphund
There's no cow on the ice
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FL.....54 tabs???????? How the heck??????
Spring cleaning woman!!!!!!
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I know, I know
, I could hardly believe it myself when I counted them earlier
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But I swear I recently did go through them and closed almost half of the ones I had then, I thought I had managed to get them down to around 20 or so but I didn't count them and I now realise I must have had 30-something left *sigh*. Just checked, 10 tabs seems to involve smileys somehow...
FL.....54 tabs???????? How the heck??????
Spring cleaning woman!!!!!!
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I know, I know
But I swear I recently did go through them and closed almost half of the ones I had then, I thought I had managed to get them down to around 20 or so but I didn't count them and I now realise I must have had 30-something left *sigh*. Just checked, 10 tabs seems to involve smileys somehow...
suestowford
Well-Known Member
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The problem is that there is no one site for people searching to rehome.
There are plenty of companion animals or horses who are unsuitable for novice riders. People who are looking for sensible riding horses spend a lot of time combing through different rescue sites and sale sites.
Hence my suggestion.
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That is a good idea, as long as all partners in the site are reputable equine charities who have a policy of carefully assessing all animals and ensuring homes are suitable. Perhaps you could write to the charities that JM7 has listed and suggest they consider liaising with each other to create a central web database of horses requiring rehoming?
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A central database is a sound idea but I wonder how it would fit in with the smaller charites, such as the Mare & Foal Sanctuary. They will only rehome within their own area; this is because they want to be able to keep an eye on their loaned out ponies, without having to travel across the country to do it.
Maybe a central database could have area links, so that people could find their local rescue easily?
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The problem is that there is no one site for people searching to rehome.
There are plenty of companion animals or horses who are unsuitable for novice riders. People who are looking for sensible riding horses spend a lot of time combing through different rescue sites and sale sites.
Hence my suggestion.
[/ QUOTE ]
That is a good idea, as long as all partners in the site are reputable equine charities who have a policy of carefully assessing all animals and ensuring homes are suitable. Perhaps you could write to the charities that JM7 has listed and suggest they consider liaising with each other to create a central web database of horses requiring rehoming?
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A central database is a sound idea but I wonder how it would fit in with the smaller charites, such as the Mare & Foal Sanctuary. They will only rehome within their own area; this is because they want to be able to keep an eye on their loaned out ponies, without having to travel across the country to do it.
Maybe a central database could have area links, so that people could find their local rescue easily?
AmyMay
Situation normal
And then of course there are the markets, some of which are well known for the meat man and low end dealers generally.
Easy to pick up something there in need of help, for no money at all.
Easy to pick up something there in need of help, for no money at all.
spaniel
Well-Known Member
I have been thinking about this all morning JS and to be honest any site set up to collate all these different organisisations is going to run into problems in the end.
How will a host be able to vet these charities? Do you stick with the big names or start to include the smaller more regional ones? How do you know these charities arent a front for other dealing?
Can you see where this is going.
How will a host be able to vet these charities? Do you stick with the big names or start to include the smaller more regional ones? How do you know these charities arent a front for other dealing?
Can you see where this is going.
Natch
Well-Known Member
Beeston auction this wednesday was a pefect example.
£40-60 would get you one of several native type ponies, shaggy coated and ungroomed but otherwise appearing healthy. Or perhaps you'd prefer a donkey?
£120 would have got you a 15.2hh TB type, looking poor but tacked up and available to be tried ridden.
£400 would have got you a really nice looking welsh C/D with change to spare...
Only 1 or 2 horses went for over £1k, not more than £1600, all in that bracket were riding horses of some description.
i'd I'd have been buying I would have come home with one of two gorgeously marked and nicely moving coloured cob 3 year olds, approx 14.2- 15hh @ £450 each...
All having the advantage that you can see them there to assess & try them, some of the "more expensive" coming with warranties. Take a vet or knowledgeable friend with you and you could come home with some very nice horses & ponies at bargain basement prices.
£40-60 would get you one of several native type ponies, shaggy coated and ungroomed but otherwise appearing healthy. Or perhaps you'd prefer a donkey?
£120 would have got you a 15.2hh TB type, looking poor but tacked up and available to be tried ridden.
£400 would have got you a really nice looking welsh C/D with change to spare...
Only 1 or 2 horses went for over £1k, not more than £1600, all in that bracket were riding horses of some description.
i'd I'd have been buying I would have come home with one of two gorgeously marked and nicely moving coloured cob 3 year olds, approx 14.2- 15hh @ £450 each...
All having the advantage that you can see them there to assess & try them, some of the "more expensive" coming with warranties. Take a vet or knowledgeable friend with you and you could come home with some very nice horses & ponies at bargain basement prices.
AmyMay
Situation normal
BER herself picked up the most wonderful Hunter a few months ago for some ridiculous amount (£750, possibly lower) at one of the sales. Dumped at the sale by the owner - with no interest in where the horse ended up....... Luckily for him he did not end up with the meat man.
JM07
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i buy these types ALL the time...
its really sad..
its really sad..