So how much would you pay for a jpeg from a pro 'tog?

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I'm not a photographer but I want to know if I'm being really tight :o

When we went to the RC champs we bought a photo for £15 (for a small-ish photo) we were asked if we were interested in a fb quality jpeg as well...mum asked how much it was....... £13 :eek::eek: politely said no!

I personally think it is ridiculously expensive for fb quality I would pay £3/4 max!

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£5 absolute max.. I paid £3 for one earlier this year, it has the photographers name on it.
I bought a picture today and paid an extra £3 for the FB image. Unfortunately that photographer doesn't sell them on their own, you have to buy a print :( I would have bought several pics if I could have just had the FB version! I would have not bought anythng but they had a cracking head shot of my boy and I had to get it!
 
Could you perhaps scan your photo? Quality should be good enough for FB. In answer to your question I would not pay that much for a jpeg ... maybe £5 for the convenience of not having to scan a photo.
 
Anglebracket said:
Could you perhaps scan your photo? Quality should be good enough for FB. In answer to your question I would not pay that much for a jpeg ... maybe £5 for the convenience of not having to scan a photo.
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That would be infringing copyright though as you may not copy or reproduce a photo without permission even if you brought a print. And buying a low res jpg must also come with permission to post online before you can do so legally!!
 
If the photographer has sold a print than as a add on then £3-4 would be acceptable for a low res image that is not sufficient to make a print from. It does not need any copyright text on it.
I would however not sell a low res digital file for that price is a print had not been purchased also.
 
£5 max. A local tog to us will do his photos (which aren't always exactly amazing!) for £10.50 as a standard size, but to use the image it would cost another £10.50... Sorry, but not a hope! On the other hand, people like Julia Shearwood gave us a free (really good!) jpeg when we bought a photo off them and emailed it as soon as the photos were up on the website. Very impressed by that and the general picture quality :D
 
£3 for me too, and I'd probably buy several at that price. I've recently been quoted £8.50 and £10.50 for low res jpgs - the photographers lost out there as I spent nothing. If they'd been £3 I'd have bought 2-3 from both. I didn't want prints, I wanted low res jpgs I could post online. I have bought a single picture this year mainly due to photographers pricing structures. If they had offered £3 jpgs I would have spent £6-9 at each event probably. I've been to 15 events this year that have had a pro photographer at. And I would therefore have spent in the region of £90-£135...
 
happy to pay £3-£5 for jpegs - happy for them to have a small logo on there as well. michael martin photography do this and i bought several off them. i think if buying the print yu should get lo res jpeg either for free or for £2 max extra. i realise pro photographers may disagree which is fine but i won't be buying photos from them so they are the ones losing out :)
 
I charge £4 for an unwatermarked FB image and £10 for a 7x5 print and a FB image.

It's really annoying when I see so many 'ripped' images of mine on FB by people who haven't even bought a print from me.
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The only pic I have bought this year was from Craig Derrick who charged me £15 for a print and a high res version of the image on CD with no copyright - the only restriction was that it couldn't be used in magazines etc - I could put it on forums, FB and use it in an advert, which I did. Brilliant value and I will recommend him to organisers. James Pyne have got far too expensive, and the pro tog at Monmouth were at a ridiculous fence, then wanted £10.50 for a low res jpg - not a chance!!
 
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£3 for me too, and I'd probably buy several at that price. I've recently been quoted £8.50 and £10.50 for low res jpgs - the photographers lost out there as I spent nothing. If they'd been £3 I'd have bought 2-3 from both. I didn't want prints, I wanted low res jpgs I could post online. I have bought a single picture this year mainly due to photographers pricing structures. If they had offered £3 jpgs I would have spent £6-9 at each event probably. I've been to 15 events this year that have had a pro photographer at. And I would therefore have spent in the region of £90-£135...
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Ditto. Surely it doesn't cost them any more - they've already taken the pictures, they just need to email them. I'd buy lots if they were cheap - at least 2 per show, sometimes as many as 6, which would mean spending more in total than I do currently, buying one print for £15. One show I went to did have £3 FB pictures, and I bought 2 (there were only 2 nice ones). The younger pro togs seem to get this, but the older more established ones are missing a trick, I think.
 
I think you need to understand that if a photographer has to pay the organiser a couple of hundred pounds to attend/set up shop at an event then they need to sell a lot of images at £3 to cover that expense.

It's also not uncommon for the event organiser to take a cut of the takings, so that print that you buy for £15...............£2 - £3 goes to the organiser.
 
I provide unwatermarked FB sized images FOC if an image has already been purchased (digital or hard copy), I just ask client to give me a photographers credit if possible when using the image. Digital full res images are £5 but I still hold the copyright.
 
But so far I have spent £0 with the photographer, and if they'd had £3 jpgs I would have spent £6-£9 with them....so it's the photographer that loses out. If I'm not going to buy a print anyway, charging more for the jpgs doesn't make me more likely to buy a print, it means I spend no money with they photographer, rather than some money.

At the end of the day, it's no skin off my nose if the photographer doesn't want to sell a product I want to buy - but if they decide to sell something which appeals, then I will spend money. Until they do, I'll simply link to their online pictures - and those which have websites which don't let me link directly (all the annoying everybodysmile ones for starters), not only don't get the business, but they don't open themselves up to the possibility of my mum buying one (which she does do if I send her the link), or the peer-pressure of 'that's an amazing photo, you must buy it' - which if I am wavering will be enough to make me buy rather than not buy.

Interestingly, running my own business, I've had to become more savvy about pricing and doing deals with clients, especially this year. Photographers seem reluctant to do that - and they can also negotiate with events as well, you don't have to just stump up the fee, you can enter into discussions with them. It may not always go your way, but sometimes it will.
 
SpottedCat said:
But so far I have spent £0 with the photographer, and if they'd had £3 jpgs I would have spent £6-£9 with them....so it's the photographer that loses out. If I'm not going to buy a print anyway, charging more for the jpgs doesn't make me more likely to buy a print, it means I spend no money with they photographer, rather than some money.

At the end of the day, it's no skin off my nose if the photographer doesn't want to sell a product I want to buy - but if they decide to sell something which appeals, then I will spend money. Until they do, I'll simply link to their online pictures - and those which have websites which don't let me link directly (all the annoying everybodysmile ones for starters), not only don't get the business, but they don't open themselves up to the possibility of my mum buying one (which she does do if I send her the link), or the peer-pressure of 'that's an amazing photo, you must buy it' - which if I am wavering will be enough to make me buy rather than not buy.

Interestingly, running my own business, I've had to become more savvy about pricing and doing deals with clients, especially this year. Photographers seem reluctant to do that - and they can also negotiate with events as well, you don't have to just stump up the fee, you can enter into discussions with them. It may not always go your way, but sometimes it will.
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Good points Spotted Cat - I'll add a FB sized image price to my catalogue!
I hadn't had much request for them in the past but its definitely worth the 10 mins webby work!:D
 
Do photographers only do the bigger events now? I know that our RC/ PC has never charged (more like begged!) a tog to be there, and the guy who does all our events says that he gets far more business from the lower level shows than the proper BE type ones...
 
Blackwijet said:
I provide unwatermarked FB sized images FOC if an image has already been purchased (digital or hard copy), I just ask client to give me a photographers credit if possible when using the image. Digital full res images are £5 but I still hold the copyright.
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That seems entirely reasonable to me. Are your high res images really only £5 and would you object to them being posted say on FB or on a forum or used in an advert for a horse?
 
Lolo said:
Do photographers only do the bigger events now? I know that our RC/ PC has never charged (more like begged!) a tog to be there, and the guy who does all our events says that he gets far more business from the lower level shows than the proper BE type ones...
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Mr FJ has found this over the last year- unaff/RC/PC stuff tends to get more interest in photos than affiliated does, I think because it is more of an "event" for folk at these compared to lots of pros who do it day in/day out and will never even look for a photo after.

It's hard striking a balance between pricing yourself out of sales and making it worth your while...

Personally, I think up to £5 per image seems about right for a non-printable jpeg to be used on FB etc. :)
 
SpottedCat said:
That seems entirely reasonable to me. Are your high res images really only £5 and would you object to them being posted say on FB or on a forum or used in an advert for a horse?
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I don't object to them being used if they credit the photo to me! however I've come to the conclusion that it's not worth kicking up a fuss as they can just as easily scan bought images and I'm not going to scan every advert/magazine to see if one of my images has been used without my permission unless it is the magazine/local paper themselves that has used the image for a story - they know copyright rules and what can and can't be used. All my electronic files have my website address in the EXIF data and I've also started sending files with copyright in the file name. Yep they can change the file name but if I'm sending direct to the magazine they can't say they didn't know!
 
FigJam said:
It's hard striking a balance between pricing yourself out of sales and making it worth your while...

Personally, I think up to £5 per image seems about right for a non-printable jpeg to be used on FB etc. :)
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It is in any business - and I've lost work this year on price, happens to everyone.

Funny though, if the FB jpgs were £5 I'd buy one, if they were £3 I'd buy two or three, so the total income for the tog is greater if the price is lower - but maybe that's just me?! Same as if a print is £12-£15, I'll buy one, if it is £12 each or two for £20, I'll buy two (assuming that there is more than one I like, but there usually is!).
 
Lolo said:
Do photographers only do the bigger events now? I know that our RC/ PC has never charged (more like begged!) a tog to be there, and the guy who does all our events says that he gets far more business from the lower level shows than the proper BE type ones...
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I do mostly local riding club/area qualifiers plus a national showing series and I don't pay to attend. I'd be a bit peeved if I was asked as I don't set up on site and will happy provide pics FOC to the organisers for their website and liaise with magazines for any editorial. the only one I will pay anything towards is a Newmarket charity show and its as a donation or in future I 'll sponsor a class or something similar as its for a very good cause.

I find the lower level shows usually provide bigger income as there's lots of cute ponies and tiny tots do look cute in their riding gear on a cute shetland :D
 
Admirable said:
I'm sorry but £5 for a high res image is plain stupid!
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You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else but I don't actually get much call for the high res ones, I make most money out of prints, CDs, special deals etc.

My friend was at the RC champs originally mentioned and nearly fell off her horse when she heard about the official tog's prices. But as I pointed out to her they were selling on site so did have to cover costs of at least two togs, generators, onsite computers and monitors etc. However she opted not to buy anything as the cost of getting the champs was expensive enough.....and no I wasn't there taking any pictures of her and potentially taking away the official tog's business:)
 
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