So Now I am not Disabled enough !!

MerrySherryRider

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The goverment seems to have found a cure for disability where doctors couldn't. 70% of disabled people forced to attend ATOS medical assesments for ESA are found to be fit for normal employment. I think only 5% of those attending the medicals are found not to be fit for any type of work.


There are increasing numbers of disabled people unable to work and not recieving benefits. They are simply falling out of the system. Sick people often are not well enough to fight back and the DWP seems to be capitalising on this.
 

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I am sorry to hear this. The benefits system in this country makes me mad. My brother has profound downs syndrom and autism and needs 24/7 care. He is 27 years old and messes the bed, cannot wipe himself and has no concept of safety, allbeit when something is hot or moving vehicles.

My mother is an angel, she went through hours of paper work and interviews etc. We get no respite care. We do get funding for my brother to attent a 'college', which isnt a college but a charity which runs care homes and activities for people with severe learning difficulties. They run lessons in pottery, computers, acting etc to engage the sudents and allow them some sense of self. This is my brothers only outlet. He finds it hard to engage with the world around him and it seems a very lonely place for him. He is incredibly aggressive at times and is very hard to deal with, but this 'college' brings him to life.

We have been told he might not be able to attend anymore as they are thinking of withdrawing this funding, they have cut my mothers carers allowance and with no other help we are having to seriously consider my brother going into care. I will fight to make sure this does not happen. I love my brother dealing and it seeming absolutely disgraceful that a human being will have to experience a lower quality of life so that someone else who is not deserving gets free housing, food stamps etc. My mother has gone through 27 years of looking after my brother who has the mental age of a 4 year old. I try and help as much as i can but there is NO ONE supporting her. I work in a pharmacy and see people on DLA day in, day out.

I know you cannot always see a disablity, but we know those who lie and it makes me sick.

And the sicker thing? My brother isnt disabled enought o warrent a blue badge anymore, his mobility is decreasing every year and he struggles to get in/out of my mothers 4x4.

But whats even more sick? I have disabilities but i can work etc, i have been encouraged to give up working or at most go part time and i would get almost tripple the amounts of benefits then my brother gets plus other provisions.

This country makes me sick and i am so sick of the injustice.

Sorry for ranting or overtaking the thread, but i am sorry to hear about your troubles. Please feel free to PM me any time.

As pedantic says, nation of *******s....
 

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I'm really sorry you have to go through this, my mum also had to appeal and they have re-instated her benefits following the hearing, she has a catalogue of problems which individually wouldn't be so bad but add four together and there's no way which she can work. Please stay as strong and as positive as you can x
 

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Good god, you need to appeal that right away :(

I know of parents who's kids have ' special needs' they don't need a car or disabled parking but still get them.

This country is an arse

How do you know they dont need the disabled parking?

My brother has special needs and he isnt in a wheelchair but he needs it? But you wouldnt think to look at him.
 

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I do not agree it's because of benefit cheats, liars and people from Romania :rolleyes: but I do sympathize.

I've helped a few people (successfully) get DLA and they almost always turn you down first time. I've never known anyone get it first time.

Have you talked to Welfare Rights? They are the only body expert in benefits, forget Citizen's Advice etc. Welfare Rights are up to date and really know their stuff.

Get advice and help with the forms. Appeal against their decision.

I can't see how they can justify turning a case like yours down.
 

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Black Horse.. I am sorry to hear of the problems your brother is going through as well, it really does not seem fair that the people that really need help do not get it, I have got to go and take a test to see if I can renew my Blue Badge, because that is due in April, so that will prob be another thing they say that I do not need, I had to go to hospital a few days ago and on the way back I saw someone else on crutches walking very slowly towards the bus stop, the bus pulled up , and ....... they picked up the crutches and ran for the bus, now I could not run if my back side was on fire !!
 

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How do you know they dont need the disabled parking?

My brother has special needs and he isnt in a wheelchair but he needs it? But you wouldnt think to look at him.

You're right black_horse, you can't see some disablities. Badges for disabled parking only let people park, you don't get any other benefits. Why would anyone begrudge anyone that?

I work with disabled people, and I do get mad at how keen people are to judge.
 

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I agree with Fiona, i think theyre turning most people down in the hope they wont appeal. As Holly hocks suggested, speak to the people who know the system and get that appeal in asap .... Good luck
 

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My mum was turned down the first time she applied. She was on 3 x weekly dialysis, had a colostomy bag and lost her leg below the knee. She could never walk more than a few strides with the clumsy heavy false one as it was too painful.
She appealed with the help of her Dr and it was awarded, not sure at what rate but she could also have had a motability car if needed too. I think you really do have to drum in how hard it is for you.
 

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to be classed as disabled you need to not be able to do normal day to day tasks, such as supermarket shopping, getting round your home etc.

If an amputee is able to do that with assistance ie a fake limb then they probably wouldnt be classed as disabled.
 

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i think theyre turning most people down in the hope they wont appeal.

My mum was turned down the first time she applied.

I think this is how it's been for years. Turn down first time and some won't appeal = a saving :rolleyes:

Appeal with expert advice (Welfare Rights). Your doctor will help but doctors aren't benefit system experts.

I do speak from experience!
 

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to be classed as disabled you need to not be able to do normal day to day tasks, such as supermarket shopping, getting round your home etc.

If an amputee is able to do that with assistance ie a fake limb then they probably wouldnt be classed as disabled.

That's a good point. DLA is dependant on you needing help from others. But the OP has multiple disablities and may qualify anyway.
 

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Totally stupid, you deserve as much help as you need.

Fight it, get every bit if legal help and proof you can.

They are probably just trying it on hoping you will just accept it and not fight.
 

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Alas, I too know people who have been turned down by the DLA, including my mum who can barely walk, due to arthritis, has stomach problems, back problems, and jaw problems, which means she sometimes can't talk, which does hinder her working to a large degree.:mad:

As others have said, look into finding someone who is 'in the know', so to speak,
and ask them for help.
 

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Black horse... I know because it is a good friend of mine, won't go into details but blue badge and funded car is not needed, but they openly admit that they will have it because they can!!!

You say you're a good friend? :eek::eek:

You only get a mobility car by passing strict tests. Blue badges are quite seperate things, and much easier to get as all they do is give some parking concessions.

I'm going to bale out of this thread as the judging of other peoples' rights to help re their disabilities and ignorant ranting about "cheats and liars" distresses and angers me.

Good luck OP I hope you get your DLA. xxx
 
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I applied for DLA for my son and got it. He has had uncontrollable epilepsy since May last year and was having 20-30 seizures a day, we are now down to 4-6 a day and more through the night. He can't go out alone incase he has a seizure and is also incontinent with each seizure so I have lots of washing to do too.
It was his school nurse that said I should apply, I did it myself and we had to go to the Dr for them to fill in a form too.
I wasn't expecting for him to be awarded it but he must have been one of the lucky ones.

You must appeal.
 

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Ebonyallen please appeal this rediculous decision. Ate there any amputee groups that can help? Would you like me to ask my friend if there are any groups he knows of? ( he lost his leg just below his knee) I am sending you vibes to help you stay positive xx
 

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I've seen both sides of the coin here. I used to work with disabled people and worked with one 'lady' who clearly didn't need all the funding she was getting, but would still claim every single penny because she could.

Your case is genuine, appeal, use the welfare rights people and do write to your MP, it does work. This person got hers stopped (and in my opinion it should have stayed stopped) and yet because her family wrote to the local MP she got it all reinstated. I saw this woman demolish a wall, carry bags of potting soil, mow her lawn, wash her (mobility) car and walk around a shopping centre unaided for an entire day and hers got reinstated. If this can happen then I don't think you have anything to worry about. Just don't give up. :)

Good luck and I hope you get it all sorted out. xx
 

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Have you filled a DLA form in before and got it ok? Did you write it as you were having your very worst day, the days when you struggle to get out of bed etc?

Having applied for DLA on behalf of patients before I know you have to lay it on thick and write it from the perspective of your very worst day.

I hope you can appeal and get it
 

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They tried to take away my mates blue parking permit saying he wasn't disabled enough (runs a well earning company so doesn't claim benefits), he's got spinabifida, his lower half is less than half the size it should be, he can't stand without crutches and has an adapted car. He just stood in front of them and yelled what part of him isn't disabled enough?!!
It's all an absolute joke, I really feel for you :(
 

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I know someone who had colostomy bag plus other bowel problems they declined him DLA, he went before the panel and he deliberately "had an accident". He got the DLA...
 

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Have you filled a DLA form in before and got it ok? Did you write it as you were having your very worst day, the days when you struggle to get out of bed etc?
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Having applied for DLA on behalf of patients before I know you have to lay it on thick and write it from the perspective of your very worst day.

I hope you can appeal and get it
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Thank you yes I have and 3 years ago they did this to me before and I had to fight to get it, so I really do not understand why, what has changed NOTHING in fact more things have started to play up and go wrong, it just gets so wearing having to go through this just to try and get some help, I do not expect the earth just enought so that I can get by, my mum and dad are great and help me alot with Ebony, but they can not afford to do anymore then they do at the moment.
 

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You definitely need to appeal this. I don't know how the system work but it does seem very unbalanced. A friend of mine developed a brain tumour about 3 to 4 years ago now. As a result she has been left blind in one eye, she cannot walk un-aided, has not regained her speech 100% and has to have thickener in any drinks so she doesn't choke. She was deemed not disabled enough as well! I'd like to see some of these people making the decisions having to live even one day with some of these so called "non-disabilities". Maybe their views would change!
 
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