So now my loaner wants me to take back the horse for winter RANT

If she can't look after it in the winter, then maybe she should just have lessons, and then she can ride as and when the weather suits.

Shame you are not more local to me, I would have snapped your hand off, I am weird though, and much prefer horse care in the winter :D
 
I would take him back now! He sounds fab I'm sure if you put the word out round the local PC and RC you would find some one to take him on and have loads of fun with him if thats the sort of thing he would enjoy and you want him to be doing. People are looking for the horses for next year now to give them some time to get to know each other so if you do want him to find a new home now would be a good time to advertise.
 
We were just discussing this morning, how my friends has her friends daughter come to our yard and ride and enjoy the summer season only. Last year they disappeared in October only to reappear in April! They are coming down tomorrow and sure this will be one of the last rides as when that temperature drops and the mud arrives, you don't see them for dust! (or mud!).
Horse ownership is the full package so yes this "elderly" woman is being extremely bladdy cheeky!
 
TBH, I have my own land and for many reasons have really missed him. He plays non stop with my 6 year old gelding which has obviously kept him fit as I have really struggled with his weight and fitness this summer. I've also got a late foal with a mum whom I'm dubious (impaction colic) whether she will make it through another snowy winter with no grass and he'd be great to wean it with. Still really hacked off though with her appalling attitude.

Thinking of saying yes to her so that she transports him back (about 3 hours) or is that me being cheeky - just desserts I'd say.
 
You could play her at her own game say yes then have her bring him back then change your mind again come spring and not be able to cope without him. You could then advertise for a rider/ loaner from yours so you get him at home and he gets to do things if you dont have time to ride him.
 
He sounds like a complete darling and TBH, I'd be getting him back asp. Bring him home where he is loved and appreciated. I have a cob who, in all the years I've had him, was so excited when presented with a weanling to look after, I have never seen him so happy. He absolutely adored her and watching how he cared for her was incredible.

Bring him home, bring him home, bring him home......
 
I think you need to take your cob back and find someone who will take full responsibility all year round - a horse is for all year, not just the easier times.

I own my girl, this is our 7th year together. I am arthritic, quite badly so. Every winter is a struggle for me, especially with the pain in my neck,back, hips and shoulders. Up until last year I rode over the winter..last winter I decided not to ride, just care for my girl. It worked out just fine, I was in less pain, she just had more pamper time and a lovely holiday.

Maybe this lady is finding the thought of a tough winter daunting and so doesn't want to be the one going back and forth to frozen fields, finding none frozen taps, taking extra hay etc...I mean, last winter -15.5 was tough... But, she should be prepared to pay for someone else to do this if she feels she can't...

To not take the rough with the smooth is frankly taking the pee... I would find someone to appreciate your horse in fair and foul weather... and would not loan her your horse next Spring regardless, she doesn't deserve it in my opinion.
 
horserider said:
He sounds like a complete darling and TBH, I'd be getting him back asp. Bring him home where he is loved and appreciated. I have a cob who, in all the years I've had him, was so excited when presented with a weanling to look after, I have never seen him so happy. He absolutely adored her and watching how he cared for her was incredible.

Bring him home, bring him home, bring him home......
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Yes, I will. My non-horsey (but very helpful) neighbours will literally be hanging out the bunting I would think. He is very popular here - just so solid and dependable. Now I have calmed down I actually have just re-read the email and she even had the cheek to ask if she can ride him whilst she is with me as she has a friend nearby. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR:eek::eek:
 
scarymare said:
Yes, I will. My non-horsey (but very helpful) neighbours will literally be hanging out the bunting I would think. He is very popular here - just so solid and dependable. Now I have calmed down I actually have just re-read the email and she even had the cheek to ask if she can ride him whilst she is with me as she has a friend nearby. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR:eek::eek:
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no!
 
I'd bring him home and find someone who is happy to share him with you at home. That way you get the joys of him in the field (he sounds wonderful) and a helping hand. Its a shame you're not near my Mum - she would love to get involved with horses but she's on a tight budget. But I bet if you look around there are plenty of people like her out there.
 
If she really loved the horse she would not be able to bear to part with him over the winter. Gosh, my horse is turned away and I would love to have a loan horse for the winter, that was rideable.
 
horserider said:
He sounds like a complete darling and TBH, I'd be getting him back asp. Bring him home where he is loved and appreciated. I have a cob who, in all the years I've had him, was so excited when presented with a weanling to look after, I have never seen him so happy. He absolutely adored her and watching how he cared for her was incredible.

Bring him home, bring him home, bring him home......
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Bless! We have a gelding at our yard like this, a massive TB who goes all soppy at the sight of a youngster. He adores my three year old Highland and watching little and large try and wind their necks around each other as they gaze adoringly into each other's eyes is wonderful.
 
scarymare said:
Yes, I will. My non-horsey (but very helpful) neighbours will literally be hanging out the bunting I would think. He is very popular here - just so solid and dependable. Now I have calmed down I actually have just re-read the email and she even had the cheek to ask if she can ride him whilst she is with me as she has a friend nearby. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR:eek::eek:
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Hahahahahahhahahaaaaaaa!!!!!! She just gets worse doesn't she. Maybe you should direct the cheeky moo to this thread?
 
scarymare said:
Yes, I will. My non-horsey (but very helpful) neighbours will literally be hanging out the bunting I would think. He is very popular here - just so solid and dependable. Now I have calmed down I actually have just re-read the email and she even had the cheek to ask if she can ride him whilst she is with me as she has a friend nearby. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR:eek::eek:
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OMG! Would she like to move into your house so you can wipe her bum for her as well? :-)))At least she is being so outrageously out of order that she cant possibly be surprised if you decline her kind offer!

tell you what, Im in Aberdeenshire and lami pony is on box rest - I'll come sneak her home to ours, Im sure OH won't notice.......:-)))).
 
Dancing Queen said:
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I agree! That is really taking the mickey. I can completely understand if she is looking at the impending winter and thinking that she won't be able to manage it...but the reality is that if it were her own horse she wouldn't have a choice and perhaps she should consider whether she is able to commit to having a horse on loan at all.

What you must do ia make a decision that has your horses welfare at the forefront...that is absolutely 100% the most important thing. To me if there is a question mark over looking after her in the winter then to me there's a question mark full stop and she is therefore no longer suitable. Simples.
 
Piglit said:
What you must do ia make a decision that has your horses welfare at the forefront...that is absolutely 100% the most important thing. To me if there is a question mark over looking after her in the winter then to me there's a question mark full stop and she is therefore no longer suitable. Simples.
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Exactly! Even if the woman had genuine reasons like poor health and no finances to pay for full services, its not the horses fault but he would suffer pretty quickly in her care.
 
lachlanandmarcus said:
OMG! Would she like to move into your house so you can wipe her bum for her as well? :-)))At least she is being so outrageously out of order that she cant possibly be surprised if you decline her kind offer!

tell you what, Im in Aberdeenshire and lami pony is on box rest - I'll come sneak her home to ours, Im sure OH won't notice.......:-)))).
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hahaahahahahaha
 
Right - job done. I've emailed her back and told her to transport the horse back to me as soon as she can as don't want him stuck up there (Highlands) if the snow comes early as forecast. Really itching to just go and get him but am going to London tomorrow and my 3.5 tonner is really really slow.
 
Brilliant.... I know it's pretty much sorted now but I just wanted to add that I think that it was a REAL cheek and I certainly wouldn't give her the opportunity to have him back again.

Personally, I prefer winter to summer... I don't cope well in the heat, have severe reactions to horse-fly bites so have to be very careful with human insect repellent application and the ground gets too hard to do anything except walk anyway.
 
scarymare said:
Right - job done. I've emailed her back and told her to transport the horse back to me as soon as she can as don't want him stuck up there (Highlands) if the snow comes early as forecast. Really itching to just go and get him but am going to London tomorrow and my 3.5 tonner is really really slow.
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Yay !! I'm itching to smack that woman around the chops. So unless she has a good reason, such as leg falling off,..and maybe even then..:rolleyes:, let me at her.
Darling boy doesn't deserve such disregard.
 
domane said:
Brilliant.... I know it's pretty much sorted now but I just wanted to add that I think that it was a REAL cheek and I certainly wouldn't give her the opportunity to have him back again.

Personally, I prefer winter to summer... I don't cope well in the heat, have severe reactions to horse-fly bites so have to be very careful with human insect repellent application and the ground gets too hard to do anything except walk anyway.
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You should move up here by the sound of it - wind in the summer keeps away the flies and ground always soft (this year too much so!). Hopefully he'll be back soon.:):)
 
I think its a fab idea, but I would never have the guts to ask. Can you imagine, if you like hunting you could loan a horse for the winter and dump it back on the loaner at the end of the season. If you liked summer riding just give it back at first frost, rain or negative weather forecast - sorted. Like my boys (children, not horses) only getting their cricket kit out in spring!
 
It appears to be a trend happening.
I've been looking for someone to share/part loan my cob as he is not getting ridden much with me at the minute. I saw on advert that said they wanted a loan horse from now til end October but then they would need to return the horse as they have 4 already to muck out but they would be happy for the horse to return to them in the spring. Not sure how many people would happy with that arrangement!
 
Not on. None of us really enjoy the depths of winter with our horses. More work, less time enjoying them and bigger bills. She thinks she would not able to cope in the winter..!!

I would think that a geniune bombproof cob would be snapped up. Get him back, advertise him now or suggest to the loaner that you WOULD take him back but SHE would need to cover all full livery costs if she wanted to be sure of having him back in the Spring. Not DIY costs, actual livery costs or suggest to her that another option could be that she moves said cob to a part livery yard and takes some of the load off herself.
 
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