So sick of time wasters

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i have a horse advertised for a few mths and everyone that has come up, thinks he is great, cant believe how quiet ect. amazing breeding conformation. very well marked ect. but same old story, love him just cant aford him at min, now this horse is and i mean is not expensive by any means. wont go into detail as i dont want h&h to delete, as not advertising. but people now price before they come up. have had 6 people view and all time wasters, they know the price before coming and i have taken a few hundred of as you do. give horse the full workout try him everyway they can and then waste my time. sick of it.
i wouldnt mind if he was mad priced but belive me he is not, also sick of people emailing to swap or loan. i know market isnt great but i have sold a few last year and i have to say he is the best and the lowest price because of market.

sorry just sick of complete time wasters, i mean i waste my day waiting on them to come and spend a few hourse with them and usually story, some have driven 4 hours just to see him.
 
I tried the pleasant and friendly, now I am straight to the point....... what level do you compete at, that at least gets rid of people who are at the rising trot stage, but apparently are "confident and capable of schooling a young horse"
 
i am friendly but believe me i am so striaght to the point, i swear i think some people do come from under a rock. just sick of being messed about, but know the right owner will come. its just so annoying having to do this time and time again, with same silly ending. if you dont have the money even half of it dont come viewing.
 
I had one, "perfect" owner, "lifetime" home, regular competitor, so I offered her a ride [she had not even been to see horse]. Apparently her trailer is not available this weekend!, and oh just bought another pony this morning [an hour after her first contact with me], so only has £800 left..... [sigh]
 
Is there any chance they are not being totally honest about what they think or maybe just trying to get your horse cheap whilst the market is bad?

I went to see a horse recently, lovely horse, lovely owner, great breeding but its action in its back end looked a bit funny (not saying for one minute that your horse isn't sound). Anyway, my friend decided it wasn't her place to diagnose and said a kind thanks but no thanks as 3 of us were convinced there was something wrong and she didn't want to pay out for a vetting when she could already see something. I felt bad as this owner does not seem aware.

You may just be suffering from a load of 'dreamers' turning up or people that do not know what they want.
 
Tell me about it!!! I am experiencing the same thing. its an emotional ride aswell.

Have no idea how people can sell horses for a business!
 
I got that fed up with people asking would i loan my horse out when i had him up for sale i have took him off the market. I got fed up of timewasters turning up and then deciding he was too big, too young, too stocky etc, why don't people read the adverts?. I will keep him and just carry on and see if i can find a rider for him instead.
 
I haven't bothered with a viewing in ages either, fed up with sellers lies etc. Might end up buying a windsucking tb because better the devil you know!
 
i know what you all mean, there is time waster sellers out there too. as when i was looking for one a few years back, people woudl say its bomeproof and when went to see it, horse was a mental, i was looking for my neice as wanted a very quiet one for her and i knew what she needed. we did get there in the end after many time waster sellers.

but i have to say, my horse is so quiet well behaved. moves like a dream, even black smith says he just floats, would be lovely dressage. well marked ect wont go on and bore you. price is low for market and i drop a few hundred as you do. but i aint giving him away for free, if he sodent go by end of summer, i'm keeping as i do love him to buts, but he was always meant to sell on as i have my own for life and my mares, cant keep them all. so i did breed him to sell.

i have everything in ad and they still ask silly questions like wgat age is he what has he done, all is in ad. but i am syill friendly and hopeful, as i know i will sell him, just cant believe the amount of time wasters out there. i mean driving 4 hours and love the horse but offering half the price, when i made it clear before they came the price and i would give them luck back. they still offer half the price. he is worth alot more. ah well i wont go on just have to vent it out. thanks a million for listening, i know he has a home for life with me if i dont sell, but i cant keep keeping them. so i do hope to get hima new home soon.

also i do know there is time waster sellers as well as buyers, its just at min i am haing trouble with the time waster viewers.
 
i know what you all mean, there is time waster sellers out there too. as when i was looking for one a few years back, people would say its bomeproof and when we went to see it, horse was mental, really not safe at all. i was looking for my neice as wanted a very quiet one for her and i knew what she needed. we did get there in the end after many time waster sellers.

but i have to say, my horse is so quiet well behaved. moves like a dream, even black smith says he just floats, would be lovely dressage. well marked ect wont go on and bore you. price is low for market and i drop a few hundred as you do. but i aint giving him away for free, if he isnt sold go by end of summer, i'm keeping him as i do love him to bits, but he was always meant to sell on as i have my own horses for life and my mares, cant keep them all. so i did breed him to sell.

i have everything in ad and they still ask silly questions like what age is he what has he done, all is in ad. but i am still friendly and hopeful, as i know i will sell him, just cant believe the amount of time wasters out there. i mean driving 4 hours and love the horse but offering half the price, when i made it clear before they came the price and i would give them luck back. they still offer half the price. he is worth alot more than i am asking. ah well i wont go on just have to vent it out. thanks a million for listening, i know he has a home for life with me if i dont sell, but i do hope to get him a new home soon.

also i do know there is time waster sellers as well as buyers, its just at min i am haing trouble with the time waster viewers
 
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pedilia said:
Yet I've had the opposite! Time wasting sellers. I've now been totally put off viewing anymore!
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Above - this. I am now waiting on a right partner through word of mouth at my RS as i have wasted too much time & money seeing horses that are not suitable for me or my child.
 
If people know the price before they come and you have had a number of viewings I would think there is something amiss in your advert description of him or he is not measuring up to what they expected.

Lots of people will use price as an excuse to say why they don't want a horse they have viewed as it is easier than saying they don't like the horse/ it wasn't as they expected/ isn't worth the asking price.
 
Miss L Toe said:
I tried the pleasant and friendly, now I am straight to the point....... what level do you compete at, that at least gets rid of people who are at the rising trot stage, but apparently are "confident and capable of schooling a young horse"
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You don't have to be competing at any level to be capable of schooling a young horse?? :confused:
 
Timewaster: anyone who doesn't buy your horse? Having both sold and bought many horses over the years (used to be a breeder, did a little dealing), you just have to be prepared to have people - 1. Make offers; it is not a crime. 2. Say nice things about horse, then disappear never to be heard of again. 3. Be unrealistic about their own abilities. 4. Not read the ad in the first place. They are known as "customers".
 
I really shouldn't read these threads, I'm a way off buying another horse just now, but reading these threads fills me with gloom for the hunt ahead. I'll be looking for something which I know is hard to find and I'm ready for the long haul hunt, but with both buyers and sellers telling so many tales how do you ever find a horse! :(

Sky your horse sounds like my kind of horse, shame I'm not looking just now. Best of luck getting him sold. Where are you based? I may well give you a shout if you're still around when I'm looking on the off chance you have something similar.
 
Well hmmm what can I say here goes.....
I was looking for 8 months on and off. I contacted several people about horses they were selling some were advertised on Facebook.
I went and viewed 2 and tried one from these ads and a little while later my wanted ad on the local FB site had a nasty comment accusing me of being a time waster just horse shopping. The commenter had never met me and I had not tried any Of her horses.
I tried several that just didn't click.
I also tried several at a local resellers yard. Every time he had a horse he thought might suit he rang me. He knew if I was on it for more than 15 minutes I was interested. He told me up front how much they were and told me there was no haggling. I like the horse I bought I paid the asking price.

Perhaps if it's a buyers market the people who try and offer silly money shouldn't be let near a horse as if you don't have the budget don't go and look.

There were several I didn't view because they were too far over budget.
 
micki said:
I got that fed up with people asking would i loan my horse out when i had him up for sale i have took him off the market. I got fed up of timewasters turning up and then deciding he was too big, too young, too stocky etc, why don't people read the adverts?. I will keep him and just carry on and see if i can find a rider for him instead.
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Agreed with the age, but sometimes decriptions and photos can be very misleading. I went to view a cob x last year, described and photographed as quite stocky and muscly and looked a nice height. Turns out the photo was at a very good angle! The horse was half the size I'd have been interested in all over. (Definitely same horse and workload, but not whats I was after). He was nicely muscled but not the size I'd feel stable on!

Pan
 
Slightly different in my case as I am sadly having to sell a beautiful yearling filly, so she isn't even backed yet! She is uncomplicated and no vices etc so nothing to hide my end! :)

So I will wait til the right person comes along that does have the money rather than wasting my time!!
 
I don't think a horse is worth more than people are willing to offer, so if lots of people come and consistently offer a lot less than you want, there may be a message in that. I reckon the market for horses still is not great and if I were buying now I'd either try to get a really good price or just wait until autumn/winter, when prices are likely to drop.

I guess your options are either drop price, wait until someone else comes along who's willing to pay, or just hold on.
 
Just a few suggestions:

1. Many buyers will ask questions when they view that are also in the ad on purpose. It doesn't mean they are incapable of reading the advert, or that they are stupid or wasting your time. It means that they want to see the seller tell them the information face to face and they want to make sure that things stack up.

2. Are you being straight that you are trade? If I went to see a horse advertised as a private seller and I realised it was actually a trade sale I would instantly have alarm bells ringing.

3. If people know the price before they come to view then they are probably not saying I can't afford to pay £xx for a horse. They are saying I am not willing to pay £xx for that horse.

When I was looking for a horse I had a budget of up to £4k for the right horse, but I wasn't going to spend that if the horse wasn't right. I saw several that weren't nearly as lovely as their advert suggested. Often if a horse isn't right you want the easiest way out so rather than saying, I don't like your horse's action or I don't trust the history I am being given, or I think you've over priced this horse, or whatever it can be easier to give an excuse or to just slope off muttering "I'll think about it". Walking away from a horse that isn't right is not timewasting if you went to see the horse with the intention of buying at that price (or close to the price) if the horse lived up to the advert and your requirements.
 
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Flibble said:
I tried several that just didn't click.
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Agreed. I've viewed horses that weren't to me what the ad said, I've seen ones with blatant lying/avoidance in the ad and I've seen perfect ones that just didn't suit me in the slightest.

It's a big commitment if there is even the slightest bit of doubt.

Time wasting as a buyer to me is not turning up and not letting people know you aren't going to show - after getting horse out, taking time out of your day and standing like a mug down the yard for ages, saying you're interested and not doing a courtesy text/call to say no thanks (although I'll hold my hands up to this after a very bad viewing with a horse I'm not convinced was the one advertised, but still should have texted a response at least), turning up to an obvious wrong horse - ie project horse for a 12yo who's never sat on a horse.

Or on the sellers behalf, very misleading adverts with lying or avoidance of problems, the common quote 'oh, (s)he's never done that before' (often regarding a pony advertised as first pony/schoolmaster who has just reared/bitten/charged before they've even tacked up!)

Pan
 
Cortez said:
Timewaster: anyone who doesn't buy your horse? Having both sold and bought many horses over the years (used to be a breeder, did a little dealing), you just have to be prepared to have people - 1. Make offers; it is not a crime. 2. Say nice things about horse, then disappear never to be heard of again. 3. Be unrealistic about their own abilities. 4. Not read the ad in the first place. They are known as "customers".
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Great post. I've bought more than I've sold but I get sick of hearing this phrase. Buyers have to trek all over the place to view mad horses, lame horses, horses that fail vettings, horses presented with no one to ride them, horses nothing like the one described in the advert, following bad directions and spending a fortune in petrol but God forbid someone selling should waste their precious time showing their horse to a customer who may be just browsing but who probably is in the market for buying a horse if they come across the perfect one and a good deal. :rolleyes:
 
As a current buyer I can say I'm not finding it that tricky, yes there are quite a few that I wouldn't bother seeing but also some that I've rung up about and had decent frank conversations about, with a couple of viewings lined up.

I am realistic though, I'm not looking to spend more than £1k, ideally want TB from track or retired sound, or one that has done little bit of reschooling.

I'm willing to travel but will get photos and detailed description before committing to any viewing, I'm upfront and direct in questioning and people seem to be doing the same in return. It's good when they ask what you are after and seem to be checking you out as much as you are them.

Suppose it depends on what your buying though, and who for, when kids are concerned you can't be too careful
 
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