So upset vets didn’t diagnose the problem 😢

[FieldOrnaments]

What exactly has happened to the six month quarantine rule?
Or have all the rescue dogs coming in from abroad been vaccinated against rabies…
I do understand people over here taking on rescue dogs from abroad as the pictures you see of the conditions are shocking…but our rescues/pounds/shelters are bursting at the seams…

This is my argument re. Resources ought to be directed into TNR and education instead of transporting individual animals huge distance (which is itself often very very traumatic for the dogs).

Pull one dog from a kill shelter and another takes its place immediately. Surely be better to campaign for better conditions in the shelters and neutering strays to slow down the endless breeding machine of dogs to fill those shelters....

 

[skinnydipper]

If you haven't already please also make sure the organisation you got her from is aware. Hopefully it would encourage them to start testing, before import dogs should ideally be tested for leish, brucella, and 4Dx snap tested, and the results included in their paperwork before they travel. (Personally I feel dogs without this shouldn't be allowed in).

A negative test before importation both for Leishmaniasis and Brucella Canis doesn't rule out infection. Leishmaniasis can lie dormant for many years and for Brucella Canis it can take up to 3 months following infection for antibodies to be detected on serology tests, which is why BC blood tests need repeating after 3 months of being in the UK.

Completely irrelevant aside but I do so wish foreign rescue organisations would focus funds and energy on stopping animal overpopulation and mistreatment at the source (TNR strays, education, education and more education, and lobbying for more humane methods of euthanasia in kill shelters) rather than just shipping individual animals away from it.

This is my argument re. Resources ought to be directed into TNR and education instead of transporting individual animals huge distance (which is itself often very very traumatic for the dogs).

Pull one dog from a kill shelter and another takes its place immediately. Surely be better to campaign for better conditions in the shelters and neutering strays to slow down the endless breeding machine of dogs to fill those shelters....

You have 3 Romanian rescue dogs. What tests were carried out before leaving Romania and which tests have been carried out in the UK following importation?

Edited to insert missing word and add ?

 

[Marshpiper]

Skinneydipper, who has 3 Romanian rescue dogs? Thought op only had one dog…

 

[Marshpiper]

Skinneydipper, who has 3 Romanian rescue dogs? Thought op only had one dog…

 

[FieldOrnaments]

A negative test before importation both for Leishmaniasis and Brucella Canis doesn't rule out infection. Leishmaniasis can lie dormant for many years and for Brucella Canis it can take up to 3 months following infection for antibodies to be detected on serology tests, which is why BC blood tests need repeating after 3 months of being in the UK.






You have 3 Romanian rescue dogs. What tests were carried out before leaving Romania and which tests have been carried out in the UK following importation?

Edited to insert missing word and add ?

All the ones I mentioned, it's in their passports. Knew you'd do this, though they are not my dogs.

It's only what I have learnt post adoption/purchase thats made me anti foreign imports, I knew nothing beforehand and the organisation certainly offered nothing (e.g didn't even say why those tests were done). Everything I've written in this thread I learnt post 2023.

 

[skinnydipper]

they are not my dogs.

I would quote some of your posts about the 3 dogs, where you refer to them as yours or ours, but unfortunately what with the way forum is at the moment and the number of different accounts you’ve used to post them, it's a bit difficult.

 

[Exasperated]

What exactly has happened to the six month quarantine rule?
Or have all the rescue dogs coming in from abroad been vaccinated against rabies…
I do understand people over here taking on rescue dogs from abroad as the pictures you see of the conditions are shocking…but our rescues/pounds/shelters are bursting at the seams…

Really shocking is the scale of this outrageous behaviour, just been looking.
There are already far too many dogs with far too few people properly looking after them, without inciting breeding / rescue / export scams; without importing additional disease into UK.
What are self-proclaimed ‘dog rescuers’ thinking?
Ok - someone has excess love and emotion to lavish - get that, presumably also plenty disposable income - but are there really insufficient deserving UK canines that a ‘rescue’ must have international glamour to be worth doing, and then (possibly more importantly?) worth detailing to everyone on social media?
Maybe time for an honest examination of motives, here.

 

[Lauraback]

Not sure if the above was aimed at me?
I’ve had 2 uk rescue dogs before Sophie she just happened to be at my most local rescue centre where they had both uk and a few dogs from abroad. I only found out about her original background when I contacted the lady in her passport who was delighted to hear from me and told me her story.
I have never made a big deal about having an international rescue and I’m not even on Facebook to shout about it.
Yes she was vaccinated for rabies etc in her passport.
I’m now just going to concentrate on her taking her meds and trying my hardest to help a poorly dog who I love dearly
For those of you who sent you best wishes I thank your kindness

 

[Lauraback]

Not sure if the above was aimed at me?
I’ve had 2 uk rescue dogs before Sophie she just happened to be at my most local rescue centre where they had both uk and a few dogs from abroad. I only found out about her original background when I contacted the lady in her passport who was delighted to hear from me and told me her story.
I have never made a big deal about having an international rescue and I’m not even on Facebook to shout about it.
Yes she was vaccinated for rabies etc in her passport.
I’m now just going to concentrate on her taking her meds and trying my hardest to help a poorly dog who I love dearly
For those of you who sent you best wishes I thank your kindness

 

[Caol Ila]

I hope your dog gets better, Laura. People here get into a right state over rescue dogs imported from foreign countries.

I've known a few people who adopted foreign dogs because no UK rescue would rehome to them because they were students, or they were single and worked full-time.

 

[skinnydipper]

People here get into a right state over rescue dogs imported from foreign countries

It’s heartbreaking for people like Lauraback who find their dearly loved dog is suffering from a life threatening disease and ‘rescue’ organisations have failed to inform them of the possibility that their new canine friend could be infected. Negative tests at the time of import do not rule out infection.

It’s also not great when people become very ill from the zoonotic disease Brucella canis, infected by a foreign rescue dog.

UK dogs can be infected with BC by a variety of routes including sniffing the urine of an infected dog or drinking from the same water bowl and, as there is no cure, the recommendation for infected dogs is pts.

So yes, there is concern about foreign rescue dogs and the diseases they are known to suffer from.

 

[Red-1]

Really shocking is the scale of this outrageous behaviour, just been looking.
There are already far too many dogs with far too few people properly looking after them, without inciting breeding / rescue / export scams; without importing additional disease into UK.
What are self-proclaimed ‘dog rescuers’ thinking?
Ok - someone has excess love and emotion to lavish - get that, presumably also plenty disposable income - but are there really insufficient deserving UK canines that a ‘rescue’ must have international glamour to be worth doing, and then (possibly more importantly?) worth detailing to everyone on social media?
Maybe time for an honest examination of motives, here.

I think sometimes it is because UK rescues put unobtainable limits on who they will allow to adopt.

There are many threads on here where people have been refused because, say, they work 2 days a week (even though they will pay for a dog walker at lunchtime on those days) or, for example, my mother who was refused due to her age (despite the fact that we'd have stepped in to have him).

We ended p going to preloved for one, and others have gone abroad.

 

[Marshpiper]

I think sometimes it is because UK rescues put unobtainable limits on who they will allow to adopt.

There are many threads on here where people have been refused because, say, they work 2 days a week (even though they will pay for a dog walker at lunchtime on those days) or, for example, my mother who was refused due to her age (despite the fact that we'd have stepped in to have him).

We ended p going to preloved for one, and others have gone abroad.

We got our latest rescue from the council pound, people forget to check their local or even not so local pound….
In Northern Ireland we have several council pounds who use Facebook to “advertise” what dogs they have ready for new homes, when you go along, as we did, you are asked lots of questions, but no home check, there is a rehoming fee, and often you can be offered a voucher towards neutering…
There is quite a lot of paperwork..We were in our early 70’s when we got our very much loved puppy….who is now 7…
So don’t give up just because you are refused by known dog rescues, try your pound…

 

[Lauraback]

A little update from me, so after I posted Sophie wouldn’t eat anything for 3 days I thought I was losing her, she went down to 21.4 kg (her usual healthy weight was 26.5kg last year) then I added bone broth to her food in desperation as I know it’s not great for kidney issues due to high sodium but that enticed her to eat and take her medication. 13 days on I took her to the vets for a weigh in today and she is now 22.6 kg so going in the right direction so relieved my vet said it’s 50/50 whether her kidney function will improve or not but for now I have a happy energetic dog who I love to pieces