So what exactly are the RSPCA/ILPH here for????

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Long live Giles.....He married a horse for the money.....God among men

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I'm surprised Admin haven't done a bit of Giles hunting for their winter entertainment....how fast do you reckon he can run?
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LOL whenever I see a post that firstly make me go
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I read it again and I realise its posted by either Shil or him and then it tickles me pink.
 
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This is just getting silly now! The situation we were in we thought we did the best - we hacked round to yard (which even thou field was were it was, the yards enterance was a mile and a half away, couldnt gain access to the field because of hedge with barbed wire - friends horse is only four and not good in hand when out (type that doesnt like to stand still etc. so that would have been unsafe holding).

Dont know YOs very well so didnt know if they would have liked us going on land, i think an extra 1/2 hour was reasonable as if we hadnt reported then it might not have been found at all. I personally thought we did a good deed!

In situations like that you have to keep everyone safe - oh and to free it the fence would have had to been cut down (post and rail) - i dont normally keep a saw in my pocket when hacking ..............

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Ok Ok Im just thinking about what I would have done - Id be helpful the the point of stupidity.

I once stopped in a dual carriageway to grab a blind jack russel that was walking down the road the wrong way...
 
xmasrach, you did the best you could in the situation you were in. Lol at the comment about keeping a saw in your pocket - you really should you know, just in case a situation like this happens again!

I know if I'd been half way on a hack and had a young horse with me I'd have done the same as you - hacked to attempt to find the owners and then, if I had no luck, call the RSPCA or ILPH.

Don't worry, you did do a good deed. If it had been my horse I would have been very grateful you even bothered at all - I've seen cases where an animal has been in distress and everyone passing just hurries on by and forgets about it. Now THAT is sick
 
If I understand the situation correctly, these horses have been dumped on somebody's land without permission, and therefore the landowner now has a degree of liability for their welfare.
Simple. Move them somewhere safe where they won't be easily found but where they will have access to grazing and water and any treatment they need. Report them as found property to the local police. Circulate the pictures in case anybody has lost them or recognises them. Post the found property number on the field gate so that the person who left them there HAS to call the police to get them back. Make sure that there i only a mobile number for contact or better still that the police do not release any of your details and get a contact number for the person.
Establish any costs. Meet the person at the police station for livery and transport costs to be handed over in cash. Deliver horses to a neutral third party.
Job done, they are out of pocket and won't try that one again and you have ensured the horses get what they need, and you might even recover a stolen horse.
Remember while they are under the 'care' of the landowner they must be moved in properly insured transport and should receive knowledgeable and ideally professional care - all this gets billed to the horse owner.

I hit some local travellers in this style some months ago, they haven't been back since.
 
I agree in theory with what you are saying winter but
a) makes alot of work for the landowner, who isnt actually horsey himself.
b) our yard doesnt want random unwormed, un vaccinated horses on its fields, (which I think is fair enough, doubt any yard would)
c) to make where they are secure would cost time and money, and there is NO guarentee of getting any costs back if noone ever claims them

catch 22 really as if noone ever claims them as theirs the landowner/carers are out of pocket!!
 
Sorry to be repeating myself but have you called the local trading standards dept? They should take the horses on and if they do find the owners they can prosecute accordingly. The ILPH will assist the council welfare officers.
 
TOG...No I havent but will suggest it to the girl who "found" them thanks

Im in Surrey wowser, but the field is west sussex. Have tried to phone the ILPH again pertaining not to know the girl who 1st reported it, but alas they say "thank you but its already been reported"!!
 
I contacted several organisations when I had a problem with a half-starved horse that ended up at my yard. I was told by Ada Cole charity (now part of Redwings) that they can't act until the horse has a body score of less than 1 which is pretty damn thin. This is probably why they have advised you don't feed them, but I couldn't stand by and let a horse get in that condition.

The new Animal Welfare Act is supposed to be much more pro-active and in theory it is supposed to enable charities to step in where basic needs like water are not being met, but I doubt it has been tested yet and doesn't look like the RSPCA are going to stick their necks out in this case. How about contacting a local horse charity if you have any in your area?
 
The owner of the field needs to get their solicitor to serve notice on the unknown owners of the horses. If they fail to comply then the horses can be moved by a charity to a place of safety where they can be carred for. This has just happened close to us in Middlesex where a pair of horse dealers did a simmilar stunt and took over some fields. (See last 4 copies of Horse and Hounds) or the below link:

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/article.php?aid=157663&cid=397
 
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catch 22 really as if noone ever claims them as theirs the landowner/carers are out of pocket!!

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If that happens they get passported and sold!

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...... at more cost and trouble to the land owner who like I said isnt horsey...... these organisations should just take some sort of responsibility!
 
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