So what is he? He's a mystery . . . pls help

Defo PWB - Check my boy out in comparison, you are right - they are very similar. Frecks move enormously which give your physio review, your boy will too :)

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right up to weight but I think they are still very similar
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Winklepoker - here is a pic of him with the most covering he's had since we bought him . . . much rounder and more WB like (IMHO).

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He's dropped a bit of weight again due to the yard move (a month or so ago now) but will pick back up . . . time to start the Speedibeet methinks.

So it sounds like he could be as advertised . . . particularly looking at WP's boy (who looks so very similar) and taking on board what Martlin said about the definition of WBs (particularly Polish).

Here's hoping we can "unlock" his movement under saddle so that he can "be" more like his heritage (and feel happier).

Thanks all.

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A friend of mine used to breed coloured PWBs, she also had an arab foundation stallion born at the Janov Warmblood Stud in Poland and a coloured foundation mare born at the same stud (not full arab) so hers had a fair bit of arab blood in them and in fact she used to show them in PB Arab classes to quite a high level. They were beautiful horses who did cause a stir in the arab classes as they were coloured :)
 
Don't know muchabout polish warmbloods but the last one i met was barely 14.3 and very fine and araby so i think Kal has a bit of a way to go to be too fine :) He is beautiful what ever love a good mixture
 
Quite simply he is a Beautiful mystery :) dont think it matter what he is really if passport says Polish warmblood stick with that but I would have a new passport done so it matches him in case there is ever a problem.
 
Amaranta said:
A friend of mine used to breed coloured PWBs, she also had an arab foundation stallion born at the Janov Warmblood Stud in Poland and a coloured foundation mare born at the same stud (not full arab) so hers had a fair bit of arab blood in them and in fact she used to show them in PB Arab classes to quite a high level. They were beautiful horses who did cause a stir in the arab classes as they were coloured :)
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Was this the woman who ran PintoFields? If so, she got some of her horses from Kal's breeder (or at least from the guy who is named as his owner in his passport who is known as a breeder of coloured PWBs and sporthorses).

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PolarSkye said:
Was this the woman who ran PintoFields? If so, she got some of her horses from Kal's breeder (or at least from the guy who is named as his owner in his passport who is known as a breeder of coloured PWBs and sporthorses).

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No but I do know of the lady at Pintofields, another friend bought a youngster from her.

The lady I am talking about is in Bedfordshire, her name was Chris Planton and she had some beautiful horses, have lost touch with her now (it was about 15 years ago) and am not sure if she is still going, she had a very bad accident and broke a hip poor thing. She used to go over to the Janov Stud quite regularly.
 
He looks like my friends Polish Warmblood.
He was a 16.2/16.3 gray, but he was quite finely built.

ETA: You wouldn't think he was a PWB, until the lad told you he was.. or you saw him move under saddle, extravagent paces or what :eek:
He was never overly fat either..
 
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rhino said:
My boy is Belgian WB and is actually at least 1/2 tb (sire was French tb); think dam was arabx - people don't seem to realise that most warmbloods are 'heinz 57' really :)
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This made me giggle a little... it's so true. Even tb's are heinz 57's :D

A warmblood, literally translated, means cold-blood horse x hot-blood horse = warm-blood.

Yes there are some supreme examples of what you can get when you get the perfect blend which is why they are so costly.

Even some older breeds like the Lusitano are actually warmbloods....

I could even say my appy x clydie is a warmblood and no-one could say I was wrong :D
 
Warmbloody are heinz 57 but tb's are not... A tb has to be 100% tb to be classed as a thoroughbred... Thorough meaning it has been selectively and thoroughly bred to be 100% thats part of the reason other breeds are crossed with them... Get a more athletic foal without interfierence from other/heavier breeds. And I would say that the op's horse is maybe 3/4 tb 1/4 id or id/tb X tb
 
Amaranta said:
No but I do know of the lady at Pintofields, another friend bought a youngster from her.

The lady I am talking about is in Bedfordshire, her name was Chris Planton and she had some beautiful horses, have lost touch with her now (it was about 15 years ago) and am not sure if she is still going, she had a very bad accident and broke a hip poor thing. She used to go over to the Janov Stud quite regularly.
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Oh poor woman.

Hmmmm . . . I wonder if she also knows/knew Stan (Stanislaw Walczak - Kal's former owner/breeder) . . . I know he has had dealings with the Janov Stud.

Thanks.

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ex racer rider said:
Warmbloody are heinz 57 but tb's are not... A tb has to be 100% tb to be classed as a thoroughbred... Thorough meaning it has been selectively and thoroughly bred to be 100% thats part of the reason other breeds are crossed with them... Get a more athletic foal without interfierence from other/heavier breeds. And I would say that the op's horse is maybe 3/4 tb 1/4 id or id/tb X tb
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I get the whole TB = thorough or purebred and WB = draught x TB . . . but I have a question which may sound slightly nitpicky and isn't meant to be - if Kal is Polish, is it possible for him to be an Irish Draught cross? Surely the draught in there would be something from the continent? I just don't know how prevalent IDs are in Eastern Europe when they have their own draught breeds . . . anyone know/can clear that up?

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He looks like a TB to me, perhaps with a hint of something else, but not much :)

Re 100% TB, if you trace my TB back far enough (we are talking a LONG way) there's an arab on his sire's side. These breeds had to start somewhere :p You can def see it in my lad's face, he's V dainty and dished; like a little pony :p (He IS like a pony, if you saw a photo you'd think he was a Welsh B or something, not a 16hh TB :D Not helped by me being tiny mind :o)

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Arabs were turned out in the uk on common land possibly as early as the 17th century - it'sthought that the dished welsh type face comes from this influence.
 
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