So who are the Futurity judges?

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I can't seem to find any info on who they all are!
Please can someone list who they are and which venue and what their specialised discipline is?
Thanks
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From information I have googled on the Internet
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, this is what I have found. Cannot be held responsible for any mis-information as its whats on the public domain anyway:

Lynne Crowden - Has Woodlander Stud, Breeder/Producer of Hanoverians. Chairman of the Lead Body, Secretary of the Warmblood Breeders Society.

Lesley Peyton Gilbert - Dressage rider, has her own stallion called Lagos. Used to work in Scotland at Straloch Stud, dressage trainer, and is now based in England.

Judith Davis - Breeder of Hanoverians, has Hawtins Stud and is secretary of the BHHS.

Bridget Parker - Team Selector for Eventing, Olympic rider herself in eventing.

Carrie Adams - Dressage rider & trainer.

Lucinda Sims - Eventer & Show Judge, has Harroway House Stud. Not sure if this is the same person who was fined £1000 by SHBGB last year (as was reported in H&H) and as a result stood down as a grading judge.

Celia Clarke - Ciss on this forum.

Mark Shaw - Has United Colours Stud, owner/producer of coloured horses, owner of Sempters Spirit, used to be on CHAPs grading panel, but not sure if he still is.

Ben Wentink - Has Scotland AI Services. Has a graded stallion with the SSH that is currently in Holland competing, he bred this stallion. Used to work for VDL Stud, then Balcormo Stud and Ingliston House Stud in Scotland - i think in the reproduction side of things. He breeds KWPN horses.

Sheri Tozer Robb - Has River Stud, owner of the stallion Zubin R, breeder/producer of warmbloods, stallion is doing well in Germany showjumping.

Nicole Nelson - Has Willow Stud, breeder/producer of warmbloods which seem to be mainly hanoverians. She is on the BHHS Committee.

Richard Meade OBE - Olympic rider in eventing, Former President of the BEF, IEF judge for eventing.

Karensa Pluess-Cobbledick - found nothing at all for this person.

Katy Holder-Vale - Has Witcham House Farm Stud, breeder/producer of Hanoverians, she is on the BHHS Committee.

Nicola Shipp - ? eventer based in Shropshire, competition results I found were at PN and N level.

That is a rough idea of what I found when I did a search on the Internet for them all. Maybe others can add more information on them.
 
Thanks Nomis
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Does anyone (Ciss?) know who the judges and helpers were at Plumpton on the 28th?..can you name anyone from this photo please.
I was happy with the evaluations on my colts and agreed with their comments.. so no complaints just curiousity of who everyone was ?..also who was the vet at Plumpton and his helper?
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The Evaluator and Vet details are on the second to last page of the Catalogue of Entries - Sheri Tozer Robb, Lucinda Sims, Nicole Nelson and Mark Shaw, vet Neal Ashton.

If there was to a change to this panel on the day there was no mention of it that I saw.

Hope this helps
 
Lucinda Sims (aka as international eventer Lucinda Moir before she married and also Betty Skelton's grandaughter) does not appear to be in this photo. The lady walking out of shot is the steward, the one at the front is Sheri Tozer-Robb and the one at the back I assume must be Nicole Nelson but it is hard to see. The man facing backwards is of course Mark Shaw.

Just a bit of further info as the list seems (hopefully unintentionally) to create the impression that most of the evaluators have a purely dressage / warmblood background, Katy Holder-Vale's stallions may be Hannoverians but they often compete in eventing as she herself has done in the past, whilst Kerensa has evented, point-to-pointed and stooid her first stallion at stud at the age of 13. Also Lynne Crowden began her breeding career in the TB world and still stands a TB stallion (Set Adrift) and one of her Hann stallions also events. I have also stood a TB stallion at stud and many of the youngsters I have bred have evented early in their careers before concentrating on dressage. Like most horses with this type of background, the career decision was made not becuase of lack of ability (several quaified for BYEH finals) but becuase of the risks they could incur going across country when really destined for dressage.
 
Thank you for a little bit more info although there does seem to be a leaning towards the warmblood on the panel but like you point out some have had TB in the past, but now lean towards the dressage.

Kerensa doesnt come up on the BE site as a rider! She stands warmblood stallions at stud as well as ponies.

It is a bit concerning if the earlier comment was right about one of the evaluators having to stand down from another panel - maybe this can be clarified.

AND maybe there should be an official list of evaluators which also declare their interests and which studs they are associated with, if any as well as listing their main interest. EG showjumping etc.

IF full clarity is given then the continue discussions on forums would disappear. Its the not knowing that makes us all ask questions.
 
Seeing as the Futurity is aiming to find/discover elite sporthorse prospects, its no surprise there is a slight warmblood bias, after all warmbloods domninate the top levels of SJ and Dressage. However as the evaluators have already put a Cob x arab foal champion at one venue in the dressage section, above some very well bred warmblood foals, I dont think anyone can say there is a bias based on bloodlines.

And Thoroughbreds are used in warmblood breeding, so someone who has judged for a warmblood studbook will understand the role of the TB in sport horse breeding.
 
We took our pure bred Cleveland Bay mare and part bred foal to Richmond and were actually a little surprised at the positive way the evaluators received them.

I also thought there may have been a warmblood bias but this was not the case.

Will certainly go again next year as we had a very positive and enjoyable day. The vets inspection was very interesting and the advice he gave us on the day will more than save me the entry fee in future.
 
Ciss you forget about that gorgeous chestnut you had and being the author of WARMBLOOD INFLUENCES ON THE MODERN SPORTS HORSE/The International Warmblood Horse: A Worldwide Guide to Breeding and Bloodlines
by Jane Kidd (Editor), Celia Clarke, Debbie Wallin and the article by Kyle Jones from the Breeding News for Sports horses states;
Celia Clarke has been avidly involved with breeding of sports horses in Britain for over thirty years and continues to be involved at grass roots level with ‘British Breeding’ associated with the British Equestrian Federation (BEF). Noted not only for long-term commitment and outspoken opinions, she has bred sports horses (including standing a dressage stallion at stud).

Celia is now key to the Young Horse Evaluation Series (YHE) sponsored by South Essex Insurance Brokers (SEIB) and other new ventures launched with hopes of creating databases of information besides uniting and standardising the disparate British sport horse breeding industry. She is unrelenting in her committment and generosity of time besides having travelled considerably and observed many horses throughout the world. In addition she owns and operates ‘Warmblood Factfiles’, an organisation providing research and knowledge about pedigrees and the global sports horse industry. She is an author of numerous articles and books on the subject and has seen Britain evolve its breeding of sports horses as long as anybody. Celia is always willing to share her accumulated knowledge, despite likes and dislikes, petty jealousies and raging rows... Celia Clarke continues forging ahead and is always there for anybody excited enough to learn.

Q How and when did you get involved with sport horse breeding in UK and how has it progressed?

I bred my first foal in 1978 and my last one in 2001. I have been involved administratively in a breed society/ stud book since 1978 when I joined the just-formed British WarmBlood Society. Today I hold the Chairmanship of the Young Horse Evaluation and Futurity Committee of the British Breeding section of the British Equestrian Federation and the Chairmanship of the Sports Pony Studbook Society of Great Britain. Over almost 30 years I have seen stallion grading grow from a very rare occurrence – and one often accompanied by threats of litigation from the disappointed owners of the many rejected poor-quality imported stallions that had been sold to naive British buyers as top class breeding and sports prospects – to an essential process for all breeds of serious sport horse stallion owners....

I just think that Celia Clarke - Ciss on here was a little understated. I was told 20 years ago that the great horses of yesterday would not necessarily be the great horses of today. This is because all sports evolve & change, as we have seen with 3DE & the shorter format as we have seen with SJ'g & the lighter poles, shallower cups etc. This is applicable to comments that have been made about how we hold our own in 3DE so we have proved we can breed eventers. The format has changed & this may effect what is now required from an eventer.
 
If the Evaluator being mentioned is Cindy Sims, then yes she did have to stand down from the SHB(GB) Broodmare grading panel I think it was, due to a horse she competed at a SHB(GB) Affiliated Show testing positive for ?bute?
 
Hi - sorry to hijack your post, is this the book which mentions "Atlantus"? A friend of mine had mentioned this book to me saying it contained photo's etc of him, I was interested as he's my filly's dam sire. Thanks
 
That is the book with a picture of Atlantus in it (he is the sire of our mare). If you go on all breed pedigree, put in Atlantus then photo I think the picture comes up.
 
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