Some people make me really sad

I'm an old fashioned hunting person and I do get my saddle checked, but only once a year. And I only get the horses back done if I think there is a problem, I don't think them being constantly banged about will help in the long run - if it ain't broke...
My horse does 6 weeks road work after a break though and I shove his sheepskin pad under his saddle and usual numnah if he looks like he needs it.
I haven't hunted this year and he has been kept ticking over so no huge changes.
 
The bit that really got me was the 'giving a couple of butes and chucking back out, but he was lame again by the next day' sort of comments. What the ???? do they expect?!

It really riles me when people seem to think that bute is a cure!
 
I feel the same OP. in fact I realised I'm turning into a bit of a grouch on any forums. Honestly, every day I seem to come across more and more people who just don't get it - they're lovely people, but they fail to see their horse as a physical being! its like its a car or a sakteboard - the other week I had one who couldn't have teeth and back done, which was more important? Well, one it will keep losing weight, the other it will keep bucking you off.......
 
EI, I agree! For some reason, it seems that saddle-fitting is becoming like a mystical art. It's pretty straight-forward really, the skill is in the adjustment.
I called a saddler out when I could see that the underside of the saddle I bought with my mare was lumpy and uneven. She told me that I had 'done very well to spot it' - it seemed obvious to me! Mind you she also told me that some of her customers prefer not to sit on their hroses when she is fitting their saddles.!
 
My son is due to do a 10 mile charity ride next weekend. His pony is as fit as you get (a NF 8years old) ridden most days and hacked for hours. He is going with some friends of mine one of which admitted to me that she had only ridden her horse once in the last two weeks. She rarely rides and says they go on stamina :( .
We havent done this one for a few years as it is reknown for being a bit fast and several horses seem to die each year. The hills are extreme and the equines have to be fit surely.
Just hoping that it all goes well. hope the horses all survive the owners this year !
 
What a stupid, stupid moron. :mad: Imagine thinking her horse couldn't be lame because its not a pony.

The part about giving it bute and leaving it in the field over the weekend made me want to slap her hard. :mad:


I do have to say though its been many years since I was hands on with horses but back then people tended to hose down the affected leg twice a day and in some cases stick a bandage on. They rarely called the vet. They put bute in the horses feed but not everyone did that. :eek: How times have changed except of course for the stupid person OP is talking about. :rolleyes:
 
So much of caring for horses is some knowledge and shed loads of common sense . . . surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that if a horse is lame the very first thing you do is take steps to determine where the lameness is (feel for heat and/or tenderness in body, limbs and feet and, if necessary watch the horse move) and then stable and ring the vet!

When Kal was kicked the vet praised my quick thinking in getting him to them in a matter of hours so that the infection in the joint didn't have a chance to take hold, but to be honest it didn't take a genius to look at a puncture wound directly over a joint that was leaking clear fluid and work out that it might be joint fluid and we needed a vet . . . vet astonished me when she told me that they've had many owners who, when their horse suffers a similar injury, try and self treat with hosing, poulticing and purple spray and don't ring the vet until the horse is on three legs with a systemic infection!

People's stupidity and lack of common sense never fails to amaze and disappoint me.

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maree t said:
We havent done this one for a few years as it is reknown for being a bit fast and several horses seem to die each year. The hills are extreme and the equines have to be fit surely.
Just hoping that it all goes well. hope the horses all survive the owners this year !
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:eek: WTF??


Local FB groups do seem to be the place many of these people congregate. I saw one the other day that made my jaw drop -

right guys I'm in need of some help, my 14 year old tb is becoming awful on the flat, he's reluctant to work and is being completely ignorant! He did had November to jan/feb off just hacking but he should be back in work now and he is just being crabby, before I sell him does anybody know of anyone that will have him for a month to school him on the flat? I literally don't have the time and I'm just arguing with him. Don't want to spend alot of money, please can anybody help me ?
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Poor horse :(
 
I've just seen another...

Last few days a lady has been trying to get rid of a Sec A as she needs stable room for her kidding goats. Price went down to £50 last night and this morning she's asking who her local meat man is! :eek::mad::(
 
Oh I could rant all day on Facebook horsey types. The one I recently had to back out of was a girl who said she'd 'rescued' a mare to give her a last chance, but the mare wouldn't pick up her back feet and the farrier was 'scared of her'. All the usual responses, including broom handles (not my cup of tea) and a few of use suggesting clicker training, with our own anecdotes thrown in. I offered a friend's number and website (she's a behaviourist with worldwide experience with welfare charities and vets) and gave some tips. Eventually, the girl came back on and said she was going to TIE ROPES OVER THE MARE'S BACK! Apparently this works.

I seriously thought it was a wind up and asked if she was joking, since this clearly doesn't 'work', as the problem was still there. I got a really ****ty response complete with 'come over ere, yeah? Do it urself?' I thought out a long reply about how I was not a free service to help every daft bint on facebook, but never bothered typing it. A few others openly responded along the lines I had thought of. Don't know what happened, as I 'unfollowed' the post.

While I'm ranting, why do these facebookers all seem to not work (demanding replies within minutes), don't drive (EVERY time I try to sell something, they 'don't drive' and ask 'Do you ever come to...').

This morning I responded to some interest in a saddle I have for sale. Complete description was on there, including my location, how much, size, treeless, make and model, length of girth, pictures from all angles, what it was used on... First message was 'can you give me more details pls?' What do you want? How many frikking stitches are in the pommel??? The questions which followed:-
Where are you? *head desk*
How much? *Double head desk*
Is it a flexi-tree? *head implodes*

After all that, you guessed it, she 'doesn't drive' and said she'd have it if I delivered. I said this would be a couple of days, since I am not Mary Poppins and also WORK (ok, I left that bit out...). Next message is that she's looking at another later today. Right...so basically because I can't fly it to you in the next half hour it's suddenly not suitable?

Told you I could rant all day...
 
RutlandH2O said:
When I got my first horse, back in 1996, I was stunned by the number of 'horsey people' who insisted that laminitis was a condition of ponies, and only ponies! Some of these people had been in horses for most of their lives and, yet, harboured this misconception unquestioningly. It's a good thing that I'm an avid reader, with a preference for reference works, otherwise my introduction into the world of equine ownership and husbandry could have resulted in needless heartbreak.
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I don't think that is entirely fair. 40+ years ago, laminitis really was a condition you saw almost entirely in fat ponies simply because they were bred to survive on poor quality scrub and sticking them in a field was asking for trouble. People fed their horses on straights, ie. little or no mollasses, and lets face it, they were worked MUCH harder than most "ordinary" horses today, so they were much fitter and generally a lot leaner. It wasn't fashionable to have "condition" on horses either in those days. If you look at photos of show ring animals back then they look thin by today's standards. People passed down their knowledge to the next generation and it didn't change all that much, plus it worked so why change it? They didn't take into account the proliferation of new fashions and trends (thanks to very successful marketing), the fact that many new owners kept their horses on converted farms which had monospecies grass meant to maximise milk production, and a lot of new horse owners were coming from non-horsey backgrounds because neds are relatively easy and cheap to obtain these days and people have more spare time to have a horse. When I did my BHS stages in the 90s there was still the rule about watering before feeding and not allowing your horse to drink much at all after feeding, but I can remember an article in a magazine in the 80s stating that it had been proved that substantial amounts of water did not wash the food straight through the gut as had always believed, it just lifted the very top, lightest quantitities. So that rule can largely be ignored. My horse always had a good drink after her feed and it never did her the slightest bit of harm. Sometimes change of thought happens incredibly slowly. Similarly in the 80s we were told to stand laminitic ponies in cold running water to ease the pain. Then that theory was reversed and we were told this was disasterous, it further reduced the blood flow and that the feet should be hot tubbed instead. But what goes around comes around and now icing the feet is apparently the way to go. The average horse owner doesn't have a lot of veterinary knowledge anyway (and sadly, I found, most didn't want to improve that) so it is no wonder that people sometimes appear to be doing the wrong thing or living in blissful ignorance. My own mare started having seizures in the mid-90s and I was told catagorically that they could have fits but not have epilepsy. And there was no treatment. Luckily I found a vet willing to at least try with treatment and it was very successful, but still most vets won't even suggest it (although this is partly due to the enormous cost). Then gradually the vets admitted they could have epilepsy but it was incredibly rare. I can absolutely tell you that it isn't very rare, just a bit unusual. I realised that my mare's seizures were caused by her hormones, but again the top neuro vets in the country were adamant that this was not possible. I stuck to my guns and oh, what a surprise, came across a paper in a journal just a couple of years ago regarding the cases of horses with hormonally influenced seizures. So you see, even the vets aren't really moving very fast!

As for Facebook, well I don't call it Faceache for nothing. I can see it has some uses, but mostly it is like Wikipedia - full of absolute rubbish and I have nothing whatsoever to do with it.
 
HaffiesRock said:
I'm glad its not just me that it's annoyed.

Becky&Ollie-x I have images on a cheeky Dartmoor pony on stilts now! I hope your horse is OK though? x
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Sorry for late reply -


He has been lami-free for 3 years now so fingers crossed with exercise, "fat fields" and low sugar diet can keep this trend going :D x
 
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HaffiesRock said:
I've just seen another...

Last few days a lady has been trying to get rid of a Sec A as she needs stable room for her kidding goats. Price went down to £50 last night and this morning she's asking who her local meat man is! :eek::mad::(
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So what do you suggest she does?
 
HaffiesRock said:
I've just seen another...

Last few days a lady has been trying to get rid of a Sec A as she needs stable room for her kidding goats. Price went down to £50 last night and this morning she's asking who her local meat man is! :eek::mad::(
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If she lives in Grimsby, Findus is just down the road on the Pyewipe Estate.

Doesn't she have a local Tesco's?

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