Some people should NOT have horses *Rant*

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Yesterday, mum gets a phone call asking if Mickey has been turn out. She replied no because there was still a thick frost and she was concerned with his laminitis. She asked why and his owner say "Oh, well I just wanted you to check X (one of her 2 yr olds) as he was lame on the weekend and I wondered if he was still on his feet!!!
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" Mum replies that she had been and broken all the ice on the water troughs despite not putting Mickey out (as she suspected this hadn't been done) and that to her knowledge he was ok but hadn't seen him move so didn't know if he was lame etc. She also informs M's owner that the water is very low!

Go up this am at 9am to do Till's but leave Micks in as the ground is still frosty, break all ice on water etc for M and T and to see if M's owner has been up to break her other horses ice - NO! BUT THERE IS NO WATER! None in the bath and an inch of muddy sludgy stuff in the trough!!!
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I also make an effort to check over her 2 yr old who is lame, which he is - if it was my horse he'd be in, bandaged and probably have seen the vet by now! AND her other 2 yr old is also hopping on both front feet
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Send her a message saying as much and go home as perhaps she hadn't been up yet. Then go back up at 11.30 to turn M out and there is still NO WATER!!
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Have just got back - no one has been in the tackroom since me this morning, the water troughs are still empty and the pipes are frozen at the yard so I couldn't refil them and both youngsters are unsound and stood in a field looking very sorry for themselves. All 4 are plastered in truely awful rainscald (I thought they had it bad last year....) and looking at them they also have fairly bad mudfever!

I am fuming! They are NOT MY horses, NOT mum's responsibility and they are in a terrible state!! Grrrr!

*and breathe*
 
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I'd agree with everyone, call the ILPH (don't even bother with the RSPCA they're useless with horses)

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The quality of an RSPCA investigation hangs on the local inspector, and whether they can get a local vet to go into bat for them. Unfortuantely since the RSPCA took a stance on hunting, they have met with a degree of resistance from vets (not for me to comment on whether that is right or not). The simple fact is they need a vet to say that cruelty is taking place to succeed in a prosecution, and that is where they are currently meeting a lot of opposition
 
I would give her till tomorrow, then if still nothing def report. She needs to know that her horses can't be just left like that and its not your responsibility so perhaps a serious chat is also needed. How competent is she? I mean obviously not great is she's left in that state, but do you think she needs advice and help with her horses?
 
posted this before - RSPCA are very good at dogs, cats, rabbits, guinea pigs, ferrets, etc

they are rubbish at farm animals, poultry

in regard to horses if you award 100% to the ILPH (you can eat off the floor of their buildings) then you'd award 35% to the RSPCA horse care in comparison.

ALL the ILPH care for horses is excellent

NOT all the RSPCA care of horses is even acceptable, let alone excellent

'Horses for courses' - for HORSE welfare it's the ILPH (or HAPPA) every time.

dogs and cats - rspca
 
...maybe in North surrey...

having worked with both my view is that the ILPH are great but not quite as accessible in my particular area...the RSPCA will come out at the drop of a hat and will proceed wherever possible...

...however as I said before, so much rests on the abilities and contacts of your local inspector
 
perhaps you are right

our ILPH is an ex mounted division sergeant and he's a great horseman as well

our RSPCA inspector used to be very good - even for farm stuff - but he got promoted and went to a nicer area - gloucestershire I think - several years ago

I have seen rspca care of poultry - and taken some in - and the level of ignorance of the rspca staff on how to care for geese and sheep was abysmal and the conditions they were keeping the poor animals in would make them prosecuteable under the new animal welfare bill !!!

whereas I went to Cherry Tree Farm many many times and you literally could eat off the floor there
 
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