Someone posted about a website 'Abler'

hc123 said:
Do/have you used it then with a gastroscopy to confirm results? I'm very interested - looks like it works out about a quarter of the price of the Peptizole.
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No of course not :)

The last thing you want to do with a horse which was behaving as if it had ulcers, who you've given Abler omeprazole to and is no longer behaving as if it had ulcers ,is to starve it all night and let the acid attack its empty stomach.

I judge by results, and like many others I would suggest that the results show that it works. The drug is very safe and has few side effects, so I give it to any horse showing typical ulcer symptoms where there is no other cause for their behaviour.
 
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Can anyone in the UK who orders from Abler please tell me how they go about making the payment? They don't seem to accept cards and are asking for bank transfer, but my online bank won't accept the account details. Do you usually telephone it through? How does it work?
 
I've looked on the abler website, their horse products appear to be designed for horses, not humans, so I have no doubt that they will work.

However, I was very concerned about the fact that it may not be entirely legal importing the stuff, and I'd be just as well paying an extra £200 or so and get it from my vet instead
 
bollybop said:
I've looked on the abler website, their horse products appear to be designed for horses, not humans, so I have no doubt that they will work.

However, I was very concerned about the fact that it may not be entirely legal importing the stuff, and I'd be just as well paying an extra £200 or so and get it from my vet instead
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To be absolutely clear. It's not legal at all. Definitely illegal. There are just hundreds of people who have done it, and they guarantee a refund if it does not clear British customs
 
Ordered some 2 weeks ago and got it in a week. Horse is already showing an improved attitude, has gained weight and coat looks better. Would definitely use again. I just set up the international payment on line with nat west. Found the whole process very straight forward.
 
Mine was what my vet describes as "diagnosis by therapy" i.e. if it works, you know that was the problem. I don't know what, if any, disadvantages there are to use using a course of omeprazole if the presenting symptoms all point to ulcers, but I have seen human versions on the shelves at Boots (albeit relatively low strength) so presumably it isn't a really dangerous or restricted drug like pergolide for example. The presenting symptoms disappeared after the course so we assume that was the problem and the right treatment.
 
https://www.abler.com/contacts/
Head Office: Abler Inc. PO Box 729 - Victoria - Mahe - Seychelles

According to Wikipedia, Omeprazole is on the general sales list in the UK.

The FDA lists Teva's generic omeprazole as being prescription only, but lists Procter and Gamble's Prilosec OTC as being "over-the-counter" (as the OTC in its name suggests).

This makes me think that some versions of omperazole is prescription only, others are not, and the most obvious reason for that, I would have thought, is the dosage or the release rate.

Prilosec OTC is sold in packs of 14, 28 or of 42 caspules of 20mg. Teva's is also 20mg, though...
 
Omeprazole IS a prescription only medication in the UK for humans and animals - although esomeprazole is available over the counter... technically you are breaking the law importing / buying it without a prescription...
 
blitznbobs said:
Omeprazole IS a prescription only medication in the UK for humans and animals - although esomeprazole is available over the counter... technically you are breaking the law importing / buying it without a prescription...
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You can't buy enough to treat a horse with it, but just to put the record straight, omeprazole for humans is an over the counter medication, non prescription, and has been for years. Boots even do an own brand version.
 
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You could always cover all the bases by seeing if your vet will issue a prescription? Afaik the regulations state you can import without prescription "for personal use". Not sure whether that covers personal pets or not, or whether it has been tested in court - it is clearly intended just to prevent importing for resale
 
ycbm said:
You can't buy enough to treat a horse with it, but just to put the record straight, omeprazole for humans is an over the counter medication, non prescription, and has been for years. Boots even do an own brand version.
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No it’s not. It I’ve just checked in the bnf
 
On a note for Abler, it’s not a very legit company, here’s a letter where it gets warned by the FDA as it’s not got a license in the US, and also when the sachets are tested it’s not the same strength of Omeprazole ect as it claims to be. The only reason it carries on is it operates out of other countries where the FDA (US regulator) or VMD (UK regulator) cannot reach it.

https://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/ucm422545.htm
 
Does anyone know where the products are manufactured? I know they say they are shipped from Singapore, Seychelles or Vanuatu.
To be honest, I know that Vanuatu relies on importation of all its medicines ( Human and presumably animal ) and this is unregulated. I'm not sure about Singapore or the Seychelles, but combined with the information that it has been found that the strengths differ from those stated on the pack, I think I'd rather not buy from them.
 
thoroughbred- said:
Sorry - it is. I work in a pharmacy.. The only P classified Omeprazole is the packs of 7 or 14 tablets. No more than that is to be sold. So yes, it is a POM.
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I've been on Omeprazole for years, so I did a quick google out of interest about prescriptions. Is it that doses over 10mg are prescription only? And as you point out, it's only supposed to be used short term without GP monitoring?
 
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