someone set this straight for me pleeasse!?

LJLazonby said:
Oh for goodnes sake!! Of course you are using them the right way round. To do it the other way would only be for a very specific reason on a very experienced horse. But why have you not placed a pole "ground line " at the bottom of the fence. You are making your horse's life very difficult.
Might I suggest that before you do any more jumping you seek some lessons from a qualified instructor
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bit harsh, you don't know anything about OP or her horse. She did the right thing by asking people who may know the answer to her question so she knows for next time.

OP, I think you're doing it right. But I'd suggest some traditional wings too so it's safer if your horse knocks the jump :)
 
quirky said:
I disagree, I think in the majority, poles fall in front.
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I disagree, showjump poles cannot disobey the laws of physics, they get hit from the front, they fall behind (and just to make sure I was not just spouting rubbish, I just watched a bunch on youtube and nearly all fell in the direction of travel). The only time they will fall behind is when they get kicked out or rock back. I do however take your point about the rarity of taking all poles down.
 
I think you are right op. You wouldn't jump it backwards. They don't look very dangerous in the scheme of things to me either. I remember the obstacles we built as kids for our ponies to jump tho ;-|
 
LJLazonby said:
Oh for goodnes sake!! Of course you are using them the right way round. To do it the other way would only be for a very specific reason on a very experienced horse. But why have you not placed a pole "ground line " at the bottom of the fence. You are making your horse's life very difficult.
Might I suggest that before you do any more jumping you seek some lessons from a qualified instructor
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If my horse couldn't jump one single jump without the use of a placing pole I'd be slightly concerned. Especially if the jump is slanted like the one above. To be honest, from experience I have found placing pole or no placing pole, the horse jumps exactly the same.

And why does the OP need lessons? For all you know she is more experienced than you!
 
LJLazonby said:
Might I suggest that before you do any more jumping you seek some lessons from a qualified instructor
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Might I suggest that before you do any more posting on the forum, you seek some lessons in tact and diplomacy

People come here for advice and support - the flavour of some of the responses I see makes me ashamed to be a member.
 
It is dangerous either way the jumps should be able to knock down but if your horse doesn't see the bottom pole from the other side he could seriously damage himself
 
Your way is the right way so the jump ascends away from you. However because knocking a pole results in the lot crashing down, I only like them if jumping under the horses ability. Mainly cos most of my own jumps are made of junk, so always been a bit ott about making sure they are safe in a knock or fall.
And I fourth what auslander said, not sure what the relevance of jump wings & riding ability is. Groundlines are important but I'm not skilled enough myself to know ops level of knowledge from a Google image of the type of jump used.
 
I've always used them this way OP for reasons mentioned by everyone else, but I have always had a worry in the back of my mind about how they fall. I have found that the whole lot is very flimsy and collapses a lot easier than traditional wooden wings/poles, and also that the poles fall in a different way than wooden ones because they are so light.

I don't know, I suppose accidents can happen with either kind of jump sets.
 
we have these jumps :) and ur right!!! they are slanted so form a spread and u wouldnt jump a spread backwards, ive knocked them down before and trust me they are safe the poles just fall off like they do on traditional wings, infact i think they are safer than traditional as the cups are more open :)

AJ x
 
LJLazonby said:
Oh for goodnes sake!! Of course you are using them the right way round. To do it the other way would only be for a very specific reason on a very experienced horse. But why have you not placed a pole "ground line " at the bottom of the fence. You are making your horse's life very difficult.
Might I suggest that before you do any more jumping you seek some lessons from a qualified instructor
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Your a proper little charmer aren't you?

Before you start slagging the OP off, you might want to consider that the OP googled the image............Duh.....

Now off you pop, I think some of the Whitaker family are looking for you help.
 
Ye you were doing it the 'right' way. At least the way I have done it since my 16th birthday (they were a present with a massive Happy Birthday banner across them) and as a direct result I can say that they do fall if you hit them, but I was always taught not to weight them with water.
 
guido16 said:
Your a proper little charmer aren't you?

Before you start slagging the OP off, you might want to consider that the OP googled the image............Duh.....

Now off you pop, I think some of the Whitaker family are looking for you help.
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:D Couldn't have said it better myself :p

Back to OP, yes, you're right, but I prefer jumping trad. wings/poles - just makes me feel safer.
 
LJLazonby said:
Oh for goodnes sake!! Of course you are using them the right way round. To do it the other way would only be for a very specific reason on a very experienced horse. But why have you not placed a pole "ground line " at the bottom of the fence. You are making your horse's life very difficult.
Might I suggest that before you do any more jumping you seek some lessons from a qualified instructor
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How rude.

Is school out?

All the pictures of these jump blocks are placed the way round the OP has used them, which makes sense in terms of the angle of the jump facing the horse, but does raise the question of the poles being able to fall without getting in the way of the horse's landing.

However, the OP was questioned and instead of taking a know-it-all approach, she asked the question. Very sensible one would have thought and certainly not something that deserved a slating!

As to the ground line. If my horses couldn't jumpt without a ground line we would have been stuffed on many an occasion :eek::rolleyes:
 
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