#sophiefromromania

Going back to the rehoming dogs from abroad, it’s always in my mind (and I think there’s been examples found of it) of dogs being bred specifically so they can be exported here and sold as rescues. I wonder why if someone wants a puppy, they don’t just buy one from a breeder here? Is it just that they want to ‘rescue’ (which may or may not be the case), or the cost?
 
meleeka said:
Going back to the rehoming dogs from abroad, it’s always in my mind (and I think there’s been examples found of it) of dogs being bred specifically so they can be exported here and sold as rescues. I wonder why if someone wants a puppy, they don’t just buy one from a breeder here? Is it just that they want to ‘rescue’ (which may or may not be the case), or the cost?
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My sister had her old dog from a puppy. When we lost him earlier this year she got a rescue as she wanted something good to come from losing him. I know lots of people who have rescues and none went for it because of cost.
 
CorvusCorax said:
I'm just saying that if a dog is camped out, head down, stiff, looking away, ears wrapped, tail between the legs, licking lips, I personally, get out of Dodge.
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I wasn't criticising or disagreeing with you CC. I would also be very wary of that body language, very wary indeed. I merely wanted to say even if it is a very stupid and unwise decision to import a rescue dog, it is done now, I can only wish them the best (mostly for the poor dogs sake) and hope the behaviourist they are working with points them in the right direction. And of course that nobody gets their face or hand savaged in the process. ?


Tiddlypom said:
He said that the dog is better with his wife that with him as she is patient, and he is impatient ?. I can't bear to delve into it any further. Poor dog.
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Oh dear, that doesn't bode well at all then does it? ?
 
Tiddlypom said:
Rory told the R4 Today program live this morning that getting a rescue dog in the UK is difficult, hence them getting one from abroad.

He said that the dog is better with his wife that with him as she is patient, and he is impatient ?. I can't bear to delve into it any further. Poor dog.
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I heard that . Not good, was it. I am hoping he didn't mean it how it sounded.
 
Considering the space behind the sofa appears to be Sophie's 'safe space' I didn't think it was great to see Rory and his wife leaning over the back of the sofa and reaching down to stroke her, I would have thought that would be risking denting her confidence at best (as her only safe space has been invaded) or a bite at worst. As others have said, she seems to tolerate the stroking not enjoy it, so it is more for the benefit of the humans at this point.
 
SilverLinings said:
Considering the space behind the sofa appears to be Sophie's 'safe space' I didn't think it was great to see Rory and his wife leaning over the back of the sofa and reaching down to stroke her, I would have thought that would be risking denting her confidence at best (as her only safe space has been invaded) or a bite at worst. As others have said, she seems to tolerate the stroking not enjoy it, so it is more for the benefit of the humans at this point.
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Plus camera plus strangers
 
first time I have seen this dog and body language was very wrong, if they have a behaviourist. They are not advising them correctly. I would say one gentle small stroke and move hand away would have been betterand gauge the dogs reaction, and either leave it at that or do the same again if dog relaxes. Tail clamped, crouched down and licking Lips show that the dog was very unhappy, poor thing . It seems that people want to have a so called rescue at any cost to the dogs well being and they feel like a failure if they buy a puppy in this country . When people see my lurcher the first question they ask is whether he is a rescue and then they seem to lose interest when I say he isn’t. When I was looking I could have had any number of foreign rescues but I chose to not support the trade that I don’t believe in. I feel that a Program of neutering or humane PTS should be set up in those countries who are sending hordes of dogs over here . I would contribute if I thought it was being done by a responsible charity.. so many of the dogs they are sending over here are young cute puppies, and some are already really mentally damaged by the trauma of being caught and transported for such long distances. I wish something could be done but while so much money is involved and our borders are not being policed properly it’s very unlikely
 
CorvusCorax said:
I see Sophie Raworth plus cameraman and producer were in the house today for more publicity, that'll certainly help her come out of her shell.

Give me strength.
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I was appalled by that item. They clearly say that the dog lives behind the sofa for most of the day and yet they haven't even put a piece of vet bed down for her to lie on! Goodness knows why anyone thought it was a good idea to publicise this disaster in the making. Or why someone who wanted a dog to walk was offered this one.

I know 2 imported 'rescues', neither of them has reliable recall. One is in its 2nd British home, because the 1st home couldn't cope. The other came from a Cyprus rescue and at least has a clean bill of health.
 
Pearlsasinger said:
More likely that the dog was chipped by the breeder but not transferred to the new owner's name.
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It's nearly 11 years since I had a litter chipped, but back then the breeder could put a note on the records that if the dog was found and for any reason owner couldn't be traced then the breeder should be contacted, and any good breeder would have records where they sold the pup (and would hopefully still be in touch) .
 
MurphysMinder said:
It's nearly 11 years since I had a litter chipped, but back then the breeder could put a note on the records that if the dog was found and for any reason owner couldn't be traced then the breeder should be contacted, and any good breeder would have records where they sold the pup (and would hopefully still be in touch) .
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But not all breeders are good ones.
 
I see the behaviourist is the one black retriever x rescue use. I’ve never watched any of their videos but I’m surprised they are talking about him very positively on fb
 
A couple of years ago, Greyhound Gap (awesome northern rescue I support) went out to assist in trapping a Romanian rescue that had escaped from her foster home and not only did they manage to catch her, they agreed to look after her at the GG kennels for the night. They noticed she had wonky legs and it turned out to be two damaged cruciates, which the importing rescue couldn't afford to fund, so GG paid for the repair at a cost of thousands and the dog was released into their care. If the wonky legs were obvious, it's really bad that the importing rescue were going to rehome her to someone in the UK without a) doing a vet check and b) having the funds to fix her up themselves. Or even worse, doing a vet check and ignoring the results.

GG also assisted with a Bulgarian street dog who basically sat in a corner of her kennel for 6 months, terrified, and they seriously considered whether it was fair to let her continue to be so afraid of life - but then she suddenly turned a corner after months of just being left to her own devices/allowed to make her own decisions, and she became a very happy, well-adjusted dog. She's still there a couple of years on, living it up at the house. So Sophie could potentially make the same transformation, but absolutely NOT with people hanging over the back of the couch! She needs loads of time and space, which it doesn't sound like she's going to get.
 
CorvusCorax said:
That's what I was going to say Ellie, they'd be better pretending there is no dog, putting food out near them, ignoring her and just let her do her own thing rather than being in her face with cameras and treats.
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But that wouldn’t make good tv and publicity for the idiot owners, the behaviourist and all those rescues who are going to be bringing even more in for people to help ?‍♀️
 
If the behaviourist was in the slightest bit competent he'd have ordered the camera crews and interviewers straight out of the house PDQ and got the unsuitable new owners to calm everything down.

I'm just a pet dog owner, but I've always known to keep everything calm and settled when a new dog arrives. No visitors, no matter how keen, are allowed in the early stages while everyone in the household gets used to everyone else.
 
CorvusCorax said:
That's what I was going to say Ellie, they'd be better pretending there is no dog, putting food out near them, ignoring her and just let her do her own thing rather than being in her face with cameras and treats.
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What a sad situation for that dog. Not just her, I suppose, it's a lottery for all dogs (both puppies and rescues) as to what sort of owner they'll end up with.
 
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