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Looking to move yards as now live 40-50 mins from my yard and Im diy so doing the round trip twice a day

Yard Im at, only me and owners with there 3 horses good ayto, good rubber sandschool, free lorry parking, hay form fields and its good hay at £4 small bale, owner charges but brings mine in days I work. Good fencing, not a lot of mud. Have a nice farrier instructor. But as yard is on there home they panic about fields being churned up and I feel im very involved in there life could tell you what they have for tea most days!!

New yard, its a s**t hole but has just been brought and they are working really hard to improve it, stables are good and the turn out seems ok but only elec fencing no post and rail, sandschool not great but can use and they are putting a new surface on it, canter track being re-laid, off road hacking into local woods, will have to pay lorry parking which I know is norm. Mud everywhere as no hard tracks from school to stables but they plan on laying hard standing. hay £27.50 a large round bale

My problem is, no post and rail, what if none of the improvements happen could end up moving form a nice yard to a s**t hole, its closer by half an hour so that's 2 hours back in my day

Also im DIY they are asking £195 for 5 day assisted which is a t/out or b/in

Help/advice pls
 
Personally I would stay where you are and let the new place get set up and organised. See if they do what they say they will do and aren't just trying to get new customers. You could always move in Spring when they are more established....
 
sherbet said:
My problem is, no post and rail, what if none of the improvements happen could end up moving form a nice yard to a s**t hole, its closer by half an hour so that's 2 hours back in my day
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This would be my main concern. I don't know whether it's the same over there as it is over here; but so many boarding stables open up here on a fairly regular basis and they claim they're going to build this and that and do these improvements and the next. And they never do end up doing them. Some places surprisingly are still hanging on there by the skin of their teeth and although they advertised years ago what they were going to do, their stables are still exactly the same as they were years ago when they first opened.

When I moved here our farm was a blank canvas so I had everything done exactly as I wanted it. Over the years we've continually made improvments but I think for any new boarders I have, what we have already is really good in comparison to a lot of place so they're happy with what there is atm. Any improvements we make are simply seen as a bonus to them.

If I were you, and you'd rather move to the other stables for whatever reason, then I think I'd keep on very good terms with the present YO so that you can go back if it doesn't work out.
 
Definitely stay where you are just now, maybe the owners will accept you paying more livery and help you out with your horse a bit more so you aren't having to make the trip twice a day if it's too much hassle?

You never know when someone is going to run out of money... so don't move to the new one until the work is done!
 
Don't do it!!! I moved to a s*** hole of a yard and was made so many false promises of improvements and in the end had to move AGAIN after 12 weeks. Luckily I'm at the yard of my dreams now.
 
Could be due to area but nearly £200 for DIY with that small amount of help seems a lot. Ours is £100 pcm with additional charge of £2 for turn out or bring in. I'd stay put and maybe look around at other yards as there are bound to be others with better facilities.
 
amymay said:
But op is on a lovely yard and is wondering whether to move to one that sounds awful.
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i agree

i also wouldn't consider moving to a yard full of promises, i have also been at a yard further away and the drive was worth it because i actually enjoyed my time when i got there, have been at closer yards less well run and hated it!

am now at a great yard about half way between the good but far yard and the close but awful yard and its perfect! inceidently i moved there on the understanding that there would be a new school by winter, it was looking doubtful but they were true to their word and it was finished a couple of weeks after the clocks changed and floodlights went in a week later!

i would for the time being whilst you see how much of the basic work gets done at the closer yard see if you can get any additional help at the current yard maybe so ou only have to go once a day? you'll save yourself two hours travelling a day and a tonne in petrol which would probably cover the cost of additional help?
 
Are there no other yards near you? I don't really see the issue with "no post and rail", having always kept my horses at home so have never had it! As long as the main things are good enough which it sounds like they are (not perfect but good enough) then don't see why not. It would save you 50 mins travelling twice a day (yikes!) which would be even longer during the worst winter weather.
 
Agree NellRosk - bear in mind at the moment the OP is commuting nearly 4 hours daily to the horse, presumably this is around work?
I personally would be looking to move, but perhaps not to this yard. Is the perimeter field fence electric? Is the school usable in bad weather? I've been on yards with gorgeous facilities and couldn't leave quick enough, have also been on *****holes and been gutted to leave. Presumable the Ass DIY price whilst still more expensive would be offset by savings on fuel costs?
 
The new yard is more but having worked out all the coat of both yards per year the new yard works out at £23 a week more but I put £60 a week petrol in car sometimes more. I have days where I waste time as no point coming home. The elec fence is the outside fence on 3 side then post and rail one side it is on mains so powerful. The yard I'm at is just so intense with it being just me and owners
 
Have you thought about getting a freelance groom in to do muck out/chuck out at your current yard. That way you only have to make one trip and are able to spend more quality time with your horse when you are there :)
 
My yard sounds really similar to your possible new one. I have only been here a month and wondering if they will live up to their promises. However I do love it as the liveries are lovely and the hacking is amazing. We are lucky that we have our instructors yard a short hack away so we have lessons and school there a couple of times a week. We pay £195pm for hay, turn out and bring in mon-fri and turn out on a sat/sun. Maybe go and see possible new yard again and get a better for feel for it. After all as much as your current set up sounds lovely I can fully sympathize with the commute!
 
Allover said:
Have you thought about getting a freelance groom in to do muck out/chuck out at your current yard. That way you only have to make one trip and are able to spend more quality time with your horse when you are there :)
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What I was thinking- save on fuel and make up the difference of more expensive prospective yard? until you can see if improvements actually made?

ETA I would absolutely not be happy with electric as a perimeter fence.
 
Option c for me too

If there are no other options i would stay on yard A until i could see clear consistent improvement on yard B starting with proper fencing
 
I have liveried my horse at a distant yard before for variety reasons although there were nearer yards. The travel time for me was the biggest issue but I was on full livery so only went up once a day. Can't believe you are on diy at that distance. I wouldn't move but either look into more assist at current yard so only going once a day or find a nearer yard that isn't a sh**hole.
 
Could you ask your current YO to just turnout or bring in each day (whichever suits), then you'd only have to go once.
At my yard, either they turn out and I come later, ride, muck out etc and bring in, or I go early, turn out, do stable, feed etc and they bring in.
Saves me an hours driving a day and lots of petrol money. :)
 
I'd go for Option C too.
The new yard sounds awfully expensive. Well, Awful and Expensive actually.

A yard I moved onto over 5 years ago is still awaiting all the promised facilities and yet the livery bill went up 50% during the first 2 years.
 
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