sorry not horsey,i cant believe wat has just happened i am in shock

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I cant get over wat has just happened,
I have just had Dillon out on the park, and he was playing with this collie nicely and they where gettin on.
Then Dil decided to get a bit giggy, and tryed to hump the other dog which is very strange it isnt something he usually does at all.
Anyway the dog didnt like it and turned at him and they just started fighting big style they where right infront of the other dogs owner and as i was running over shouting at him to get off the other dog.
As i was running over the guy started kicking Dillon in the ribs for him to get off and then gave him a blow to the head, which he fell to the floor, eyes open but not moving at all and was shaking as if he was in shock and eyes where slightly rolling.
I was strokeing him and talking to him but he was just not moving, i think at that point i went into shock too, i asked if the other dog was ok and it was fine nothing wrong with it at which point the guy said god i feel really bad now i just didnt know what to do to get him off, and too be fair Dil was alot bigger dog( golden retriever) and he had hold of the other by the skruff of the neck.
After a few minutes Dil got up and walked off ok, i walked him a bit more just to make sure he was ok and he had a few little runs , but seemed very very quiet and walking very slowly for him.
I just couldnt believe his first reaction was to kick my dog in the head, i couldnt believe my eyes he didnt even give me chance to get him off and stop them fighting which i could of easily done if i had chance but he got to him before i had chance.
I just really really hope he is ok and hasnt suffered any internal bleeding etc i dont think he will have, i will be kepping a very close eye on him.
I cant believe he just set on the other dog though, he is like a big puppy usually with all dogs and loves to play with everything it was totally out of the blue.
The only thing i can think of why he did it was because last week at the farm my friend brought her dog down and she can be a bit of a fighter but she is getting on and she said oh she wont bother dil, they will be fine and next minute she turned on him and pinned him down.
He hasnt seen another dog since, i think he might have felt threatened, so now i am worrying he will do it again with another dog i am going to have to start leaving him on the lead.
God i am soooo worried now i hope he is goin to be ok, i couldnt even tell him off for doing it cause he had practically been knocked out.

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I hope he's ok. My dog was attacked and I didn't know the attacking dog - I'd have done anything to get the other dog off mine
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My dog was attacked and I didn't know the attacking dog - I'd have done anything to get the other dog off mine
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I'd have felt the same.

Sorry, it was obviously terribly upsetting for you - but lesson learnt.
 
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I would get him to a vet ASAP to check him out. I hope that you got a name and address/phone number for the guy so you know who to blame if something bad has happened.....he might have panicked but that kind of cruelty is uncalled for!!!!
 
I'd have done the same thing.. He kicked him in the ribs first and he obviously didn't let go at that stage, and you hadn't got to the dogs by this stage so first on the scene should have reacted, as he did, putting hands in etc is so dangerous.
Hope your dog is ok.
 
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Hope he is ok.
However I wouldn't risk letting him off the lead in future if this is the result


I know but at 4 nearly 5 and he has never done anything like this at all, and always played mad with other dogs and never ever showed any aggression it has made me ????????
The more i think about it the more i think that it might have been the other dog snap first cause it was so out of the blue and the other dog could have even been a fighter i dont know i have never ever seen it on the park before.
Forinstance there is a rottwiler that goes on the park that is a fighter with everything but Dil he is the only dog the man will let the rottwiler off with because he knows Dil would just ingnore him if he starts, that how weird it was.
 
Sounds very scarey, but if another dog was attacking mine I would probably lash out at it too.

I'd be inclined to take your lad for a quick once over at the vets, and to either keep him on lead or muzzled in future.

Has he been castrated, if not it might be worth booking him in for the snip too.
 
Fights can occur between two of the friendliest dogs for no apparent reason, they just take a dislike to each other. I would get him checked by the vet as he was kicked in the head. I see no reason to worry that it will happen again, just keep an eye on his behaviour towards other dogs for a while.
 
Hugs to you, you must feel awful.

However, my own dog (a collie) was attacked by a St Bernard on Ogmore beach about a year ago. The guy with the dog just could not control it (it was on a lead) and he pulled the guy over towards my dog and the dog took my dog's head in its jaw, then started jumping all over him. I was terrified and just froze. The owner of the dog just kept punching him in the head to get him off, but he wouldn't; another guy who was on the beach managed to get the dog off with sheer brute force.

I would also have done anything to get the dog off.

I would agree about taking your dog to the vets for a once over. I would not feel resentment towards the other dog's owner - he must have been terrified.
 
I know but i am sorry its the last thing i would have done at the end of the day he only had him by the skruff of his neck and litterally for 1 min and in that time kicked him so many times.
As i was running over i was just goin to go and pull his legs as thats what u r supposed to do if dogs r fighting, i wouldnt have expected the man to do that as he didnt know my dog but he didnt have to kick him straight away.
At the end of the day it just shows how in danger the dog was its coat was that thick he prob didnt even go near the skin and didnt have a scratch on it when he checked him out not like my dog that was in shock collapsed on the floor and its not as if he was a pit bull or staffy that lock there jaws.
 
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I hope he's ok. My dog was attacked and I didn't know the attacking dog - I'd have done anything to get the other dog off mine
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I agree - hope your boy is ok but honestly, if another dog were attacking one of my two girls I would do ANYTHING to get them off - kick, hit, whatever. The thing is, if the other guy had left them a second longer - or waited for you to come and try to pull your boy off, one of them could have been killed. I have seen it before
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My dog was really soppy with others till he was 5 or 6 then gradually started to become more assertive and now I cannot take any chances with him - I can only guarantee he will be ok with females - if another male dog growls at him or starts then he will jump in all guns blazing.
Because I am aware of this it is my responsibility to ensure that I never put another dog in danger - although you didn't expect your dog to react like that you have to appreciate how you would've felt if the tables were turned.. the other person had no idea how bad it could get and was desperately trying to help his beloved pooch.. you can't blame him for that.
If your dog hasn't been castrated that would be the first step (or he will only get worse as he gets older and more manly!) and if he is already then just be careful until you are sure it was just a one off.
I know its hard to accept that your much loved dog has the ability to attack another one but they all can have off days or just 'clash' with one another and then you have a fight situation - thats just dogs for you.
 
What an awful shock. As far as dogs are concerned humping another is a sign of dominance. The second dog obviously objected to this big time and retaliated. The owner was probably shocked and this might explain his somewhat extreme reaction. Dog fights can be very frightening and I'm afraid owners don't always act as they should.

I have a friend who breeds Great Danes and one evening two of her bitches began to fight. She couldn't separate them and in the end resorted to hitting one of them over the head with a shovel. It lost an eye. The vet said better a lost eye than a lost life. Both bitches had suffered severe injuries and one needed a chest drain.

Anything could have caused your boy's reaction today. There may have been a bitch in season in the vicinity, the second dog may have been near a bitch in season. I'd keep your dog on a lead until you can be as certain as possible that he isn't going to try and dominate dogs he meets.

In the meantime he is probably suffering from concussion and I'd get your vet to give him a check over.
 
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The more i think about it the more i think that it might have been the other dog snap first cause it was so out of the blue and the other dog could have even been a fighter i dont know i have never ever seen it on the park before.

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I think in this particular case you need to see it for what it was - your dog does sound as if it provocked the other one with unwanted attention (trying to hump the other dog) and not look for it to be the other dog's fault.

If you were far enough away that it took you a whole minute to run to your dog (you said the man was kicking and hitting it for 1 minute) then you were not in control of him. If that had been a smaller dog, or a child, being exposed to a prolonged attack of a minute - it could have been severly hurt at best - killed at worst.

I'm sure your dog is a sweetheart - but keep within a good recall distance in future, and you'll avoid things like this happening again.
 
i know like i said i wouldnt have expected him to have pulled dillons legs, but he only had hold of the dog it wasnt as if he was ripping his head off or attacking it in which case, u wud do anything to get the dog off.
I just thought he new i was 1 second to getting to him, that he could have let me sort my dog out, i was that close he didnt have to shout me to ask me to get my dog off.It all happened so quick
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o well looks like sticking to a lead it is for him
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The more i think about it the more i think that it might have been the other dog snap first cause it was so out of the blue and the other dog could have even been a fighter i dont know i have never ever seen it on the park before.

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I think in this particular case you need to see it for what it was - your dog does sound as if it provocked the other one with unwanted attention (trying to hump the other dog) and not look for it to be the other dog's fault.

If you were far enough away that it took you a whole minute to run to your dog (you said the man was kicking and hitting it for 1 minute) then you were not in control of him. If that had been a smaller dog, or a child, being exposed to a prolonged attack of a minute - it could have been severly hurt at best - killed at worst.

I'm sure your dog is a sweetheart - but keep within a good recall distance in future, and you'll avoid things like this happening again.

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I am sorry but i wasnt that far away as i said the dogs where playing before hand and where playing around me and then went off playing around the other dogs owner, it was the other dog actually that came over to us first as he is always under control as he is very obediant and comes to call and i didnt see any harm in him being away from me for 1 minute while he was playing and never ever had a problem like this before.
I am sorry but u know your own dog and he would have never harmed the dog he wasnt even being aggressive when he had hold of the other dog, wasnt growling, shaking his head he just seemed to be telling the other dog who was boss.
 
Agree with Christmas Carrie,
would def have your dog to the vet for a check up, it is likely they just took against each other, and as he was the man splitting them up I'm afraid he just did whatever he could, your dog did NOT let go when kicked in the ribs so he did what he thought was best after that.
Dog bites can be fatal and there's no way to tell while the fight is 'in progress;
 
I've witnessed canines become so hyped up and focussed on dominance that they've turned on anyone who attempted to separate them. Even the usually friendliest and dopey dog can revert to natural instincts and become aggressive toward others and it's usually inadvisable to get between them.
 
It really does sound like you are trying to excuse him, when the bottom line is he did attack the other dog, whether you think that was in play or otherwise. I have seen dogs attack another completely unprovoked - my aunt's GSD grabbed hold of my OH's elderly border terrier with no warning, no provocation, and would have killed him if my Mum hadnt stepped in and wrenched the GSD's jaws apart, breaking her hand in the process. I know if I saw another dog trying to hump mine I would be furious - and even more so if that dog then began to attack mine. The bottom line is your dog was in the wrong - you said this yourself, so please dont try to make out that he wasnt. Just be proactive, and do all you can to make sure it doesnt happen again x
 
you did say though they went at it big time fighting and the guy tried for a minute to get your dog off his - that's an awfully long time in a dog fight
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You also said he said he wishes he had not done what he did, so he showed remorse and obviously acted in the heat of the moment.
Even really good dogs can turn in an instant if provoked and your dog trying to mount him was enough for him to feel threatened and retaliate, you cannot blame him for that.

I think also, you cannot blame the other dogs owner for his reaction, he acted to protect his dog, admittedly in an awful way for your dog, but you say yourself he took no notice of being kicked in the ribs. I am really sorry you went through this and it must have been horribly upsetting, but again, in the other owners shoes I would have done anything to protect my own dog in the the heat of the moment. I do hope both dogs are ok though and I would definitely get your little man checked at the vet, even for bite wounds etc or an eye check just to make sure.
 
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....he wasnt even being aggressive when he had hold of the other dog, wasnt growling, shaking his head he just seemed to be telling the other dog who was boss.

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This is called aggressive behaviour - it can be quiet or it can be loud. But the fact that your dog had another dogs body in it's mouth - and wouldn't let go - is, in anyones book, aggressive.


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he only had him by the skruff of his neck and litterally for 1 min and in that time kicked him so many times.

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If he had him by the scruff of the neck for 1 minute - and you were not there within that time - you were 1 minute away from the dog surely?

Anyway semantics.

Hope the dog is ok.
 
I am so sorry your poor little Dil. Give him big hugs and lots of kisses from me. if it was me I would of kicked the bloke in the head and see how he felt and taken his name number and address so i could send him the vet bill. Yes I would take him to the vet as head injuries in dogs are just as dangerous as they are in humans. Check is leg reflexes, eyes, that he doesnt have any ear or nose bleeds. see if he follows a treat in either direction. I am so impressed at how calm you were with the bloke, I would have gone mental.
 
Thanks for your coments guys, i have rung the vet and they said to keep a close eye on him, or i could take him in.
I have decided just to keep a close eye on him as he has since eaten and drunk and seems his normal self again and is now chewing his bone so cant be much wrong with him.
Think he must have just been in shock before, but will watch him and if i am not happy with him i have got a emergency vets around the corner that i can take him too any time through the night.
Thanks guys
 
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