sorry not horsey,i cant believe wat has just happened i am in shock

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if it was me I would of kicked the bloke in the head and see how he felt and taken his name number and address so i could send him the vet bill.

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...and if his dog had suffered any puncture/wrenching wounds from the (unprovoked) attack, perhaps he could send the vet bill for THAT to the OP...?

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oh well what has happened has happened, everything happened so quick, just glad both dogs seem ok and will have to prevent it from happening again.
It doesnt matter wat happened now and when and how long it lasted u cant stop wat has happened in the past.
 
I agree completely with MisElz and AmyMay. It is horrible to think our animals, whom we love dearly, could be in the wrong; however, any animal can be dangerous and I would not stand by and watch this happen: I may not have been as aggressive as the bloke, and judging by my own reaction last year,I may well have froze, but I would not have any qualms with using physical force to remove a dog from my own. You also have to remember that this man did not know Dillon and had no idea whether he was going to tear his dog apart.

Put it down to experience, get him checked over and keep yours on a lead in parks.
 
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oh well what has happened has happened, everything happened so quick, just glad both dogs seem ok and will have to prevent it from happening again.
It doesnt matter wat happened now and when and how long it lasted u cant stop wat has happened in the past.

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But surely it DOES matter? How are you going to ensure it doesnt happen again?

I'm not getting at you, but it only takes one act of dominance for the dog to feel it can do this again. If it had been a very small dog your dog could have killed it. You need to work out where you go from here, to protect others and to protect your dog.
 
My ancient grumpy greyhound was attacked here, on my farm, by a visitor's young German Shepherd that they'd failed to socialise, so when the greyhound growled and barked as he bounded over to him, in his space, the GS went for him and pinned him to the ground, with his teeth sunk into my boy's thigh. I would have shot the ****** to get him off him, I wouldn't have cared. I would have booted him from here to next week to save my dog from an attack, so I completely understand why the guy did what he did.
I sympathise with you in that you didn't know it would happen, but now you have to ensure he never does it again. You could muzzle him, and then the problem is solved.
It is a shame that being attacked by that dog previously has made him now on the offensive. But, you just have to accept that and move on, and take steps to avoid any repeat.
I really hope he's OK, sorry if I sound harsh, but you cannot take chances.
 
Sorry about what happened, but you can't excuse your dog's behaviour, or be disgusted in the guys, if a dog had hold of my dog I would have done pretty much the same, your dog need discipline.
 
im sorry to hear about what happened.but sorry i have a pointer that is a dog and a english springer spaniel which is a bitch and if the pointer ever did that to any one elses dog he would of known about it.

years ago i was out on the beach with my springer and a husky dog did the same to my dog.my dog being as soft as she is dropped to the floor for the dog to get off her it still tried its luck so i screamed at the woman to get it off otherwise i will she still didn so i pulled it off and she had a mouthful
 
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oh well what has happened has happened, everything happened so quick, just glad both dogs seem ok and will have to prevent it from happening again.
It doesnt matter wat happened now and when and how long it lasted u cant stop wat has happened in the past.

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But surely it DOES matter? How are you going to ensure it doesnt happen again?

I'm not getting at you, but it only takes one act of dominance for the dog to feel it can do this again. If it had been a very small dog your dog could have killed it. You need to work out where you go from here, to protect others and to protect your dog. [/quote


OH MY GOD, YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVENT TOOK IN WHAT I HAVE JUST SAID, YOU MUST THINK I AM REALLY THICK.
AS IF I WOULD EVER IN A MILLION YEARS LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN.
AS I SAID I WILL BE PREVENTING THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN IN OTHER WORDS I WILL NOT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN HE IS NOW NOT ALLOWED OF THE LEAD AND A FEW MORE TRAINING SESSIONS WILL BE TAKING PLACE.
I am sorry but you have really got me mad now, i have owned dogs all my life, i havent come on here to get a lecture after i have said i am goin to not let this happen again.
I am not stupid and i am sure any responsible dog owner would take extra cautions, and not let something like this happen again in the future.
And to also go on about if it was a small dog he could have killed it, for god sake dont you think i know that.
 
Please, if you are not taking the dog in to be checked over (which I really think you should) do keep a close eye on him - I'd go as far to say check on him several times through the night too, and for the next few days. Internal injuries can be disguised for ages before coming to light very seriously.

I can't say I blame the other man for his actions; and I don't blame you for being upset about his actions either. You say he is always going to be walked on a lead in future - good. and if you feel you can trust him off the lead again in the distant future please use a muzzle.

Just goes to prove no matter how well you know them, animals CAN be unpredictable. It does sound like the previous incident you mentioned has affected him. Good luck with everything.
 
Cheers NATURALLY , yes i know i will be keeping a very close eye on him and make sure he is ok he sleeps at the bottom of my bed so he will be fine.
I know what u mean though about internal injuries my partners dog unfortunatly got run over a couple of yrs ago and vets thought there was nothing wrong with him just shock, he died a few hrs later from internal bleeding, whats why i am extra worrying but i am sure he will be ok.
 
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I know but i am sorry its the last thing i would have done at the end of the day he only had him by the skruff of his neck and litterally for 1 min and in that time kicked him so many times.
As i was running over i was just goin to go and pull his legs as thats what u r supposed to do if dogs r fighting, i wouldnt have expected the man to do that as he didnt know my dog but he didnt have to kick him straight away.
At the end of the day it just shows how in danger the dog was its coat was that thick he prob didnt even go near the skin and didnt have a scratch on it when he checked him out not like my dog that was in shock collapsed on the floor and its not as if he was a pit bull or staffy that lock there jaws.

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I am sorry but i dont know where you got the totally stupid idea that you were supposed to pull a dogs legs if they are fighting.
I have been a dog behaviorist for the past 15 years and i have never heard something so silly.
By pulling a dogs legs not only are you going to make him feel threatened and likely to lash out even more but your face is then at the perfect bite level.
 
I completely agree with Rubysurfer (welcome Ruby by the way
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Absolutely NO WAY would you pull a dogs legs when they are in the middle of a fight. Keep hands and arms away! Use whatever is available to try to break up the fight, but NOT your hands or arms as you could be the next target.

A little story; I worked on a yard many moons ago. 3 GSDs and a little tiddly dog. Tiddly dog tried to show dominance over one of the GSDs (in a similar way to your dog trying to show dominance over this dog). GSD was not having any of it and so took tiddly dog's body in his mouth. GSD was not thrashing around or acting in any wild manner, just calmly crushed the dog to death. Before dog was dead (about 20/30 seconds from start to finish), no time for spraying dogs with water, so I hit the GSD with a shovel, this made no impact whatsoever on GSD. Once he had finished crushing tiddly dog, he let go and went about his business as per usual. Lovely, lovely well trained GSD but tiddly dog had just pushed the boundaries to beyond what he was going to tolerate; as he had tried to do many times in the past - that day was just not his lucky day as GSD had had enough.

Had your dog, or indeed ANY of my 5 dogs done what your dog had done, I would have acted in the same fashion as the man; it would have been absolutely anything to get the dog off the other dog.

Bit of a shake up for you, and hopefully a lesson learned for your dog. YOU are responsible for YOUR dog's actions; if someone else's dog is threatened or attacked (as in this case) and you are not readily available to do anything immediately, then you have to expect others to do all they can to break up the fight.
 
Don't blame the poor guy! He reacted in a split second and did what he thought was right. So he made an error of judgement in YOUR eyes, he's probably think YOU made an error of judgement too.

Lets stop playing the blame game and just hope that Dil is Ok.
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gosh how scarey
i think if my dog was being attacked i would also go for shouting, then kicking on the body then the head to get them apart or even using a stick.
i dont think you can blame him for his reaction.
better that than trying to reach in and getting bitten-then you have an injured person and your dog could have been classed as dangerous to people and pts, or letting them carry on and both dogs getting badly injured or killed
esp as it sounds like your dog did provoke it by humping the other dog!
i would get a vet to check your dog out asap.
 
I'm afraid to say that if your dog started "humping" the other dog its no wonder the other dog went for yours. I know it was totally out of character for your dog but unfortunately some dogs will just snap and so the best thing to do is keep yours on a lead just in case. At least if he's on a lead then you have taken precautions and can walk him past other dogs without him going up and trying to play with them in case it happens again.

As for the other man kicking your dog - when dog's are fighting you just want to seperate them and far better to kick them than try and use your hands and get bitten yourself. I'm afraid that seperating dogs fighting is no light task and sometimes it does take a big wallop to get them apart. I'm sure the man in question was hugely apologetic but do understand it from his point as well.

My dog, the bl**dy, bl**dy thing went round to nextdoor's house on Sunday to see the dog she always plays with. The other dog had a bone and they had a fight over it and I'm now paying for the other dog's vets bills. I have taken full responsibility for it despite the fact that nextdoor's dog keeps escaping and has made a big hole in their fence which hasn't been mended yet thus allowing my dog to get in. The fact of the matter is it was my dog that went into their garden so I am liable for the damage. Thankfully its all very amicable because the neighbours are friends but even so I could have done without this just before Christmas!! Dogs are like horses - unpredictable so best to be safe rather than sorry.

OH and I are mending nextdoor's fence for them on Sunday as a peace offering. Great!!

I really hope your dog's ok and that you have had a big cup of tea with lots of sugar for the shock. As with all nasty incidents I'm sure its shaken you up no end.
 
I have to admit that i would be rather shocked if some one kicked my dog in the head with enough force to knock her to the ground. However i also know i would go barmy at any dog that tried to heart mine, although maybe not quite so far as kicking in the head.
When i first got my dog she was absolutly brilliant playing with other dogs but then a dog tried to 'hump' her and now she is really funny with some other dogs. The majority of dogs she is absolutly fine with however there's the odd one she will go a bit barky and silly at. Obviously i have to take the right precautions but main reason i told you this is to show just one incident can make them do things out of character.
Hope your boy is ok doesnt have any further problems as i know how distressing it can be.
 
I expect the owner of the other dog reacted in the heat of the moment. After all, you know your dog is lovely and kind, but the other person wouldn't have and he probably panicked. I've had to separate dogs when they're fighting and it can be very very very hard to do. I've even grabbed a dog by its goolies and even THAT didn't work (nor does pulling the legs BTW) And a dog can suffocate another dog grabbing it by the neck and not leave a mark on it... I've seen that happen too
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If it was me I would have kicked the bloke in the head and see how he felt and taken his name number and address so i could send him the vet bill.

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Interesting. How would you have reacted if it has been your small dog in the mouth of a much larger, unknown dog for over a minute refusing to let go?
 
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I am so sorry your poor little Dil. Give him big hugs and lots of kisses from me. if it was me I would of kicked the bloke in the head and see how he felt and taken his name number and address so i could send him the vet bill. Yes I would take him to the vet as head injuries in dogs are just as dangerous as they are in humans. Check is leg reflexes, eyes, that he doesnt have any ear or nose bleeds. see if he follows a treat in either direction. I am so impressed at how calm you were with the bloke, I would have gone mental.

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yet another well thought out and mature response from you...
 
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I'm guessing Bumble has never experienced a real dog fight before ...

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or much else that is "real" if most of her posts are anything to go by....
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My dogs decided to have a scuffle last night, they both got a good smack. If there's one thing I detest its dogs fighting.

Years ago I had a mongrel who was socially challenged, he could not and would not mix with other dogs, so i kept him on a lead permanently. One day I was walkin him by the lake at night and out of the dark a big Weimy came over and they started fighting. The man (usless idiot) did nothing, I had to punch the weimy in the head to get it off my dog. I was about 16. If they guy had had the audacity to tell me to not hit his dog I would have then punched him in the head until he came to his senses too.

I have seen dogs run into brick walls, get stood on - they don't seem to percieve pain in the same way as humans. Even if he kicked it hard, the shock was probably worse than anything.
 
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