sorry police again !!!

Just to help to put a fair balance on all this.

Three weeks ago I found a man (not dangerous) on my yard one dark evening at 9.00 p.m. and phoned the police because he was unable to identify himself or tell me where he lived and they called me back within 10 minutes and sent a police cas within the next 10 minutes. Poor man was suffering from dimenture and was 78 years old and did not know where he was and had walked 7 miles cross country across fields. They had been looking for him since 6.00 a.m. that morning. They where most pleasant. Our local community rural police officer has also worked very hard to reduce the amount of illegal hare coursing in this immediate area, reduce illegal motorcycling on bridleways and also produces a local E-mail newsletter telling us what is going on.

Although many people have a go at the traffic police please remember that speed and bad driving kills and that in many cases when cars are stopped by the police the occupants are found to have been involved in a criminal activity.

.. sadly there will always be some bad eggs in the basket.
 
As I said on the previous thread, there is a massive amount money being thrown at getting the new technology working in forces. Some of this is to save time i.e. using handheld mobile data devices, it is possible to save up to an hour a day of time that had previously been spent in a police station doing paperwork. The idea of these PDAs is to allow standard forms to be completed on an electronic notebook, print a form there and then and hand over to the member of public with whom they are dealing. This means that information is stored electronically and nothing canbe "lost".

Multiplying the time savings by the number of officers means that frontline police officers will be spending more time on the beat and therefore be able to offer more visible policing. There is some £50m being offered by the government to English and Welsh forces to do this.

In addition, vehicle tracking units are in many police cars which prove the speed they are going, whether sirens are turned on, whether gun cabinets have been opened - these are to assist when sending officers to an incident (control rooms can locate the nearest and most suitably equipped vehicle to the incident) and also to act as proof of driver behaviour in a vehicle if they stand accused of something. Sometimes this works in the drivers favour, and sometimes against. There is a new charge of corporate manslaughter where the senior officer could be held responsible if one of his officers is driving badly and kills someone.

The ANPR camera in vehicle is able to scan databases and ping vehicles that are marked. They are not always "live" (although the ones we sell are, of course!) - and check the Police National Computer, the DVLA and local police databases if required. Again, all amendments to these databases have an electronic trail so in the unlikely event of there being any monkey business, this can be tracked down to a person and time.

They can also run manual checks if they want to using the ANPR.

The point I am making is that in many forces nowadays, the technology means that officers are pretty much tracked wherever they go and logging whatever they do. How many of you would want to be in a job where your every move is being recorded, possibly for use against you. It is a stressful job, and now there is little chance of any minor problem being ignored.

I am afraid that North Wales is not one of our customers. If you hop into Merseyside, then they have both in vehicle tracking and mobile data.

Having worked closely with the police for 10 years, it is exactly the same as any other profession. There are both good and bad officers - but the vast majority care deeply about their profession.
 
mmmm, just what the force needs - more negative press.....yes there are a few arseh@les in active service but there are a hell of a lot of good officers out there who risk their lives on a daily basis.....
 
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To clarify my points, I am not against all police - they do a valuable and worthwhile job, and like everyone, I have a few friends who are police people.
When I have had dealings with them through my work (for example, reporting under 18yo's missing, deaths) they have been fantastic - sensible and helpful.
As a couple of people have said, it would be unrealistic to expect that the police forces don't have their share of poor quality staff, and it was my misfortune when I was younger, to be harassed by some of them.
I would hope that they are in the minority, and that very few of you have experienced this. But it can and does happen, it would be naieve to think/say otherwise. And when you are on the receiving end of it, there is little you can do in reality. I was advised by the police on another force, to take the policemens' numbers and report them, but they also warned me that it could result in more trouble in the short term.
I decided to move away, and sell my car instead. But I shouldn't have had to. As I said, I have never had so much as a speed ticket...and I've been driving since I was 17yrs old.
I still do appreciate the long hours, and hard work, of the majority of the police.
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Well I would be pretty cheesed off after being stopped 3 times by the police in a few days!

However I suppose it gives you more faith that they are clamping down on the people that are not insured.

I do agree that perhaps too many man hours are put into speeding motorists - but never fear, they will replace most of them with profit generating machinery!

Technically the only people that worry about cameras are the ones who drive too fast. On saying that Dad just got done for doing 41mph in a 30 speed limit when visiting.... north wales!! (was a stretch in an unbuilt up area, so easy to go too fast!)
 
I was always told never to leave your documents in your car in case it's stolen. A good point as well as your documents have your name and address on them. I never have mine on me (though my photo driving licence is always in my wallet as despite being 29 I still get ID'd all the time!!).

Some pretty bad experiences on here. I've only ever been stopped once and that was in a lorry when I worked in a yard in Anglesey. They just wanted to check what was in the back (nothing) and were very pleasant. I think you have just been very unlucky. Pretty bad having to wait at the side of the road with a baby and a dog. God knows what I would do if I was stopped in my van and had to get my 6 dogs out!!!!!
 
i keep document on me now as you get stopped all the time in north wales hubby used to have a evo 9 before it was stolen so i was stopped nearly every time i drove it (i'm 23 ) went out in his transit van today (just incase marker still on car) wont be using it again in a hurry not really ment for going to tescos but did manage a BIG shop hehe
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"Officer explained what i need to do regarding the marker on the car but OH has to do it as car is in his name (insurance in my name)"


Sorry I might be wrong but I was always led to believe by my Dad (who is ex met police), that whoever has the car insured in their name needs to have it registered in their name too otherwise insurance is invalid!!! Thats why on the v5c forms it states that the registered keeper is not always the legal owner, so if thats the case then ur insurance would be void!!
Sorry if I have got this wrong by the way x.
 
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