Sort of follow on from the 'what horse do you not like thread' arab lovers especially

SusannaF said:
Thank you! It's all getting a bit exciting now, although it isn't out till March. Am very in love with the cover :D
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But you didn't call it Princesses and Prittsticks. Boo. Love the cover. I meant to ask what you'd gone with but kept forgetting. Useless scatter brained creature that I am!
 
Fany Du Champ said:
I too would be proud! They are stunning, I would love to have one of those. So glad that the OP made this thread, never really had much to do with Arabs or seen many but they are stunning, especially the beauty with the blue eyes!
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FDC
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THANK YOU I am also glad I made this thread and am also trawling for arabs for sale despite not being able to afford one :(
 
cloball said:
THANK YOU I am also glad I made this thread and am also trawling for arabs for sale despite not being able to afford one :(
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I will PM you as I know of a lovely one that might fit, depending on your wish-list!

cloball said:
I started this and now I can't keep up :O!!!!!!

I have new heard of Bahraini's ??? googling now!

That sounds like a lovely mix of arab any more info?
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I think Bahraini's have been mentioned previously, check out the Pearl Island Stud http://www.pearlislandarabians.co.uk/

Also noticed this little lady for sale:
http://www.horsemart.co.uk/endurance_horse_4_yrs_15_1_hh_chestnut_cheshire/advert/192365
 
My 26 year old Arab mare Bankara is by a lovely stallion called Banshada who is sadly no longer around.She has a wonderful temperament and the most impeccable manners i have ever seen in a horse.She is versatile and contrary to what some anti Arab people believe,has a good jump and loves jumping.She is not scatty or silly and is entirely honest and genuine.She still has lots of stamina even at her age and will try to outpace much younger horses.
 
I hope no one was offended by the sea horse comment I think arab's dished faces are very pretty but there were a lot of comments about how ugly their dished faces were on the previous thread so i had a look at some breeders websites etc. and was quite amazed at how exaggerated some had become and my non-horsey OH was looking at my shoulder and asked why the horses had sea horse head :o

I used to live near an arab stud and I'm sure none looked quite like that also a lot of people talk about preferring the old fashioned arabs and was wondering what that meant exactly??

Who was it that started the rumour that arabs don't jump as well? go on own up :P
This is the PBA I had on loan sleeping after a day of winning frillies :D
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Keep them coming there is some stunning photos so far. I am rather taken with the french arab.
 
Perissa said:
This is Dennis, also known as Ecuador. He is 3/4 Egyptian 1/4 Crabbet/Spanish.

He's 16hh and takes a 52 inch girth. He is so laid back he is positively horizonal, although he can have his moments where he flips his tail over his back and has a good ponce.

Not a sea horse head but very pretty and very typey.
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These rider's are 5ft 10 and 5ft 11.

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Wow I love Dennis!!!

Arab x New forest (mostly Arab!) She was very smart, very stubborn, but loyal and was an amazing horse when she learnt to trust me.
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Didn't live up to the arab stereotype much, lovely horse but could be quite dim :)
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I think the Arabian is an amazing breed, I will definitely consider buying one in the future or at the very least a part bred.
 
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cloball said:
I used to live near an arab stud and I'm sure none looked quite like that also a lot of people talk about preferring the old fashioned arabs and was wondering what that meant exactly??
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'Old fashioned' I would think of as a term for Crabbet or Old English breeding, tend to be slightly smaller in height, but stockier, leg-at-each-corner type, with good necks, and heads would be small and dainty, but more a 'wedge' shape than dished. These horses were predominantly chestnut with lots of white, or grey, although not exclusively as we have seen already on the thread!!
 
Crazydancer said:
'Old fashioned' I would think of as a term for Crabbet or Old English breeding, tend to be slightly smaller in height, but stockier, leg-at-each-corner type, with good necks, and heads would be small and dainty, but more a 'wedge' shape than dished. These horses were predominantly chestnut with lots of white, or grey, although not exclusively as we have seen already on the thread!!
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Like the ginger grump that I posted then? He is archetypal Crabbet by the sound of that description. Stocky as you like, four white stockings, white face and ginger. And only 14hh too.
 
Having been to exposed to most breeds of horses I would only ever own an Arabian. Nothing comes close in terms of intelligence, loyalty and having that "live in the tent with you" temperament. My boy has always been the most sensible and chilled out horse at every yard I've been to. Never gets hot or silly. I have never had a "normal" horse "talk" to me the whole time I am with them. On top of that they are the fastest pure bred horse, unequaled stamina and definite weight carriers!! I remember reading in one of the wars they carried up to 17 stone all day! My boy has carried me at 12 stone plus a 3 stone western saddle with ease, he is roughly 15.3hh.

Regarding the different types Polish (as bred by the state studs) are slightly smaller ~15hh, very typey but with super movement and excellent temperaments, russian are larger and more athletic, very hardy (raced at 2 on flint racecourses). Spanish are chunkier and normally good jumpers.
 
'Old fashioned' I would think of as a term for Crabbet or Old English breeding
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I think sometimes we get too hung up on the idea of Crabbet/Polish/Spanish/etc. That's not how the arabs bred them. Instead, their horses were categorised into mare families and strains.

For example, these are all straight Egyptians:
http://www.straightegyptians.com/background/judi/index2.htm
http://www.straightegyptians.com/background/judi/index3.htm

And here are some details of the main Bahraini strains:
http://www.bahrainroyalstud.com/1.htm

You can see that there are a wide variety of types and stamps there, even though they are what we would call 'straight Egyptian' or whatever. The arabs bred the plainer stockier ones with as much care and diligence as they bred the prettier ones. The Blunts thought it would be 'interesting and useful' to breed the finest arabians in the UK so they carefully researched the breeding lines and brought back a selection that fitted their 'vision'.

All Crabbets are, are descendants of those horses that the Blunts imported. Many of their imports were what we would now call 'straight Egyptian'. Others were from Turkish Bedouin. The Blunts weren't the only ones importing into Britain at that time, either: http://www.crabbet.org.uk/articles/olden1.aspx

Even though you would think of some of the American arabs to now be of the more extreme type, our friends in the states were also at the turn of the century importing collections of 'old fashioned' breeding arabs: http://davenporthorses.org/photos/ Fans of the imported Davenport strains are just as just as passionate about preserving those old lines as the Crabbet fans are in this country.

But there's also the argument that, had Homer Davenport or the Blunts been alive today, would they have continued just with the lines that they imported or would they have kept returning 'to source' to bring in new blood, keeping those old damlines going?

ps There's probably something that mainstream horse breeding could learn from those old arab breeding methodologies, and that's the importance of the dam.
 
THank you for posting those Egypitan links! I used to, er, breed model Egyptian Arabs, and a lot of those horses were in their "pedigrees". I had a copy of a studbook featuring them all, with photos, but haven't seen it for ages :)
 
The egyptian stallion Mesaoud was inported by Lady Blunt as a foundation stallion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesaoud
I think everyone would agree though that he is a different stamp of horse to what most people would call an egyptian arabian today. Probably one of the most influential sires in the history of the breed though, as he was sold to Russia so became part of their bloodlines as well.
 
EstherYoung said:
I think sometimes we get too hung up on the idea of Crabbet/Polish/Spanish/etc. That's not how the arabs bred them. Instead, their horses were categorised into mare families and strains.

For example, these are all straight Egyptians:
http://www.straightegyptians.com/background/judi/index2.htm
http://www.straightegyptians.com/background/judi/index3.htm

And here are some details of the main Bahraini strains:
http://www.bahrainroyalstud.com/1.htm

You can see that there are a wide variety of types and stamps there, even though they are what we would call 'straight Egyptian' or whatever. The arabs bred the plainer stockier ones with as much care and diligence as they bred the prettier ones. The Blunts thought it would be 'interesting and useful' to breed the finest arabians in the UK so they carefully researched the breeding lines and brought back a selection that fitted their 'vision'.

All Crabbets are, are descendants of those horses that the Blunts imported. Many of their imports were what we would now call 'straight Egyptian'. Others were from Turkish Bedouin. The Blunts weren't the only ones importing into Britain at that time, either: http://www.crabbet.org.uk/articles/olden1.aspx

Even though you would think of some of the American arabs to now be of the more extreme type, our friends in the states were also at the turn of the century importing collections of 'old fashioned' breeding arabs: http://davenporthorses.org/photos/ Fans of the imported Davenport strains are just as just as passionate about preserving those old lines as the Crabbet fans are in this country.

But there's also the argument that, had Homer Davenport or the Blunts been alive today, would they have continued just with the lines that they imported or would they have kept returning 'to source' to bring in new blood, keeping those old damlines going?

ps There's probably something that mainstream horse breeding could learn from those old arab breeding methodologies, and that's the importance of the dam.
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Fascinating thanks :D and Mesaoud what a stunner he is almost exactly what I think of arab stallion
 
lhotse said:
I think those who think they can't jump are the ones who don't realise that you have to ask, not make!!
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:D Quite, and also, not everyone realises that all arabs know how to jump (as all horses do) but that some simply do not see the reason why they should jump. Ditto lunging :)
 
I love this thread, don't have any pictures to hand but...
I wasn't looking for an Arab, wasn't looking for a mare and wasn't looking for a chestnut, but fell in love with her pic in the advert. She is only PBA but she acts like a full one. Incredibly intelligent, incredibly loyal and exceptionally accident prone!

Her only fault is she might try and kill a stranger that approached her if they didn't know where to scratch her the first time they met! - Still, good luck to anyone trying to steal her! :P

I have had horses all my life but in the 3 years i've owned her she has taught me so many lessons, and it's definately a case of negotiating. Don't think I could ever go back now, i'm a complete convert.

I always loved the way they looked but wasn't sure i'd want one as my 'riding horse'. She has proved me wrong as she is so much more than that, she is my best friend and teacher too! :D

xx
 
Loving this thread! Arabs are my life and i'm totally besoted with them! Have been since I was 11 and read the jinny books for the first time!

I have collected many many Arabs over time and rescued them. Mainly crabbet types. I used to help at a stud since I was a little girl.

Heres my Arabians , missing a few horses on there as I have a new foal and two year old filly (PBA)

Just a private collection of Arabs lol with me and my friend!

http://www.freewebs.com/zameelblackarabians/

pictures of my Mare Shantih, my dream horse. Shes got Ben Rabba bloodlines and some crabbet.

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Hey Jazkhali, good to see you over here on the 'dark side' (;))

I recognise your horses from another forum, did you get the palomino foal you were hoping for?
 
I used to ride out a fellow livery's 7/8 Arab. I've no idea of his parentage but there was a smidgen of Exmoor and TB. I adored him, he was black, barrel shaped with fantastic legs. He was bred by Cranley(leigh) Stud, I've tried Googling them but no luck, anyone know where they are or the correct spelling?
 
Enfys said:
Hey Jazkhali, good to see you over here on the 'dark side' (;))

I recognise your horses from another forum, did you get the palomino foal you were hoping for?
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The Darkside lol!!!
Yes got the palomino foal. Meet Zameel Shamsziah or Ziah for short! She was born in the summer sun so wanted something Arabic for sunlight. So Shams is sun and Ziah light! Couldnt find the real word!

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Shes 11 weeks now, need to get some updated ones!
 
I have a straight egptian arabian mare - has her since she was 3 years old (now 11), backed her myself and she is just the most amazing animal and my best friend and can only be described as a very large dog! :D

I have no need to defend why I love her - she's just a horse version of me ... one day she's chilled, the next we go for a crazy ride over the moors :p

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