Spavin

Oh Applecart, you are being very unfair and quite disingenuous. People have merely suggested you consider a quieter life for your continually injured horse. The suggestions of PTS were not aimed at Bailey per say, more in general terms about management of old and injured horses. And the only person who “shouts” on these threads is you. Your choice of language is usually quite inflammatory and the name calling (bitch, muppet to name just a couple) comes from you, not other forum members. Even on this thread you have chosen to bring up your grievances with other forum members, which is not relevant to the OP’s situation.

Like PolarSkye, I too am pleased to hear Bailey is making good progress and don’t wish you or him any ill, but please do not use other peoples threads to pursue your ‘poor me’ crusade.


OP – I agree with you about not breeding from your mare. Potentially you are breeding in a fault and unless you are breeding for your own long term need e.g. to replace your mare for your own use, then there is no good reason to put your mare in foal. And of course, given her current situation, you would simply be putting more pressure on her limbs, which wouldn’t help her long term prognosis.

I don’t have much experience myself of spavins so the only useful advice I can give is to take expert advice. I am a big believer in certain vets for certain issues, so in this case I would seek the advice of a specialist orthopaedic vet. Best of luck.
 
KautoStar1 said:
Oh Applecart, you are being very unfair and quite disingenuous. People have merely suggested you consider a quieter life for your continually injured horse. The suggestions of PTS were not aimed at Bailey per say, more in general terms about management of old and injured horses. And the only person who “shouts” on these threads is you. Your choice of language is usually quite inflammatory and the name calling (bitch, muppet to name just a couple) comes from you, not other forum members. Even on this thread you have chosen to bring up your grievances with other forum members, which is not relevant to the OP’s situation.

Like PolarSkye, I too am pleased to hear Bailey is making good progress and don’t wish you or him any ill, but please do not use other peoples threads to pursue your ‘poor me’ crusade.


OP – I agree with you about not breeding from your mare. Potentially you are breeding in a fault and unless you are breeding for your own long term need e.g. to replace your mare for your own use, then there is no good reason to put your mare in foal. And of course, given her current situation, you would simply be putting more pressure on her limbs, which wouldn’t help her long term prognosis.

I don’t have much experience myself of spavins so the only useful advice I can give is to take expert advice. I am a big believer in certain vets for certain issues, so in this case I would seek the advice of a specialist orthopaedic vet. Best of luck.
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For goodness sake get a life KS1!!! I really don't care what you think or your opinion. The only person I care about is my vets opinion. I am not suprised you have been on here again 'to chastise me'. The only thing that does suprise me is the length of time you have taken. :D

As for the bit about using other peoples threads to do the 'poor me' (so patronising by the way) the OP actually agreed with what I was talking about.
jojo5 said:
Blimey, Applecart!! 'A lot of people', as you say, would have been wrong!!! We have done sooooo much together since he was 12!! Though anyone that knows him would say that he might have thought early retirement was a great idea!!! ( I would love to put the laughing face with the tongue here but they don't seem to work on my iPad....)
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The bit about having my horse put to sleep WAS aimed at my horse and it upset me a great deal, but then that was the point wasn't it?. You can dress it up as much as you like, but you know damn well that was the implication and the intent, and now you are trying to get out of it by back tracking. You might pull the wool over everyone elses eyes but there are people on this forum who are starting to see you and your cronies for what you are (oops another deflammatory comment). I am not commenting further on this post or any of your comments, although I expect your friends will commment further as you usually attack me in a group.

I would like to post a video on YouTube to show people how well 'my poor injured horse' is doing as people seem to be under the impression he is shuffling around the school like a decrepid only nag and to put peoples minds at rest about the dreadful management by the useless owner he is invariably stuck with. :D
 
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My horse has spavins, and I opted to use shockwave to kickstart healing (inasmuch as its possible to heal a degenerative condition), and Tildren to make sure the bone remodelling activity was controlled (Tildren slows down the rate of bone resorbtion) - followed by turning him away with his shoes off, so that he was always moving around and never got stiff through standing around in a stable. His situation wasn't made easier by concurrent proximal suspensory desmitis, for which he received additional shockwave, and PRP into a few stubborn lesions that didn;t respond to shockwave) He has been in light work (straight lines on the road) throughout this period, and is on an anti-inflammatory joint supplement and a diet that is high in Omega 3. I also used an Arc Equine machine, and feel that it had a really good effect on his comfort/soundness. Two years down the line, he is functionally sound, and can hack out comfortably, and have the odd light schooling session. I tend to hack him, then nip into the school for no more than 15mins, do a few of his party tricks,because he LOVES them (former Prix St George dressage horse, who was schooling GP before he went lame - so the party tricks are epic!) and try not to get carried away. He's fragile, but as long as I manage him very carefully, he is sound and happy.
 
Auslander said:
He's fragile, but as long as I manage him very carefully, he is sound and happy.
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Thats all you can do at the end of the day, you get to know your horses capabilities, and push for that little bit and back off if you feel the horse struggles. That's all I've ever done. The Ice Vibe boots that I bought are a really useful addition to his management as is the sandpit he is turned out in from Oct-May, the twenty minute straight line sessions in the school and the regular hacking work until he is stronger and the vet says otherwise.

I actually find Bailey responds better when he is in constant work, (if you can call it that). If he has a series of days off he becomes a little stiffer. The video of him charging was three weeks into his rehab after he did his suspensory (n/f) in the wheelbarrow. Wasn't good for him to do that, but you can't really stop them. He didn't retweak it, thank god.
 
Hey,

I am sorry I know this thread is so old but I completely forgot about it after i read a few posts and just came across it while researching again!

I just wanted to thank everyone for their advice and support, and it is nice to read some success stories!

We decided to go against the injections for a number of reasons (big ones are she is overweight and colics VERY easily) the vet told us to carry on riding her through it (we just did light work, walk and trot in the field in the summer as it was easier just to ride her in straighter lines) and then she did something to the front of her front left leg (she had to have injections for this) and then she also did something to the back of the same leg (this was treated with shockwave) could anything else go wrong!! So she was on box rest for 6 months...

I was petrified that her arthritis would cripple her being on box rest and not being ridden, but for some strange reason, since we have bought her back into work after the injury it feels SO much better!?

She is back out in the field now very happy and only slightly stiff in the mornings... So we are discussing with our vet to complete another x-ray to see what is going on (I am borderline ready to retire her, every time I start riding her after an injury something else goes wrong!!)

Thank you guys so much for your help again xx
 
Oliviaxx said:
I was petrified that her arthritis would cripple her being on box rest and not being ridden, but for some strange reason, since we have bought her back into work after the injury it feels SO much better!?
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Oh, you really did have a run of bad luck didn't you! Glad that your horse is now feeling better again :)

Did you have xrays after the box rest by any chance? Wondering if the fusion of the hock happened quicker than anticipated?

My little mare was diagnosed with spavin last October, the left hock has fused and the right hock is in the process. She didn't make any fuss throughout the fusion of her left hock, but has obviously taken the right one a little harder. She had corticosteroid injections along with regular physio to undo the damage after carrying herself incorrectly for years throughout the fusion process, and is a better little horse than ever. Sometimes these diagnoses can be blessings in disguise.

All the best with her :)
 
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