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Had the worst experience of a spoilt kid at a small jumping show this weekend. i was making my way to the entries tent when i heard a mother and daughter arguing as i was passing them the kid was shouting to her mother 'im gonna kill you if you do that' and proceeded to run her mother down with the pony several times. I regretfully never said a word. The kid was around 12-14 and jumped later that day, whilsts still bossing the mother around.

I am truely shocked that the parent let her talk to her like that and still let her compete.
 
It makes me laugh that in the BS rule book the competitor will be suspended from the showground if parents are abusive but not the opposite way round for when kids are abusive to parents!

However, there would be no kids left to compete if that was a rule as most of them are abusive :p
 
Got to be said I've had the misfortune to come across a lot of abusive spoilt and bad tempered children at shows - usually I hear "I hate (pony) he NEVER does as he's told!" followed by a smack for the pony as he's only managed to achieve 2nd rather than 1st...
Or another is "I don't want him anymore"

Makes me really sad, if I'd been so lucky to have a pony when I was younger, I don't think I would ever have treated it that way.

I've seen it towards their mothers too, I've seen mothers being hit with whips, had buckets thrown at them, been told to go away...I don't know why they put up with it.
 
One of the kids on my old yard used to scream at her mother 'why don't you just die??!!'
Would have been funny if the mother hadn't been recovering from a brain haemorrage
 
Hate it when people ae annoyed with their horse for coming 2nd not 1st. Im always pleased with a placing, unless it's 6th and there was 7 in the class or something :p

These kids seem really ott but it is annoying when parents are always bugging you in warm up/getting ready etc.
 
Makes me really sad, if I'd been so lucky to have a pony when I was younger, I don't think I would ever have treated it that way.

i really have to agree with this comment. im only 20 and i wish i had had a pony when i was little and the one or two my mummy managed to loan me when i was younger i loved to pieces and work so hard on even when they were truly awful. i know have my own amazing 16hh princess and i cant imagine ever complaining at her if she hadnt won although i dont think she knows how not to win lol
 
a girl used to come up to my stables for lessons on her own pony. She used to sit in the car untill her mum had got the pony ready for her lesson as in unloaded, groomed off, tacked up etc. She would just lean out of the window saying "can you hurry up please".
Then after the lesson she would get off, throw the reins in the direction of her mum and get back into the car telling her mum to hurry up as she had been working hard all morning!!!
During the lessons if her mum ever said anything she just used to shout out "shut up what do you know".....well her mum used to event, teach etc so im guessing she wasnt a total novice lol!! (although i can see why she didnt want to teach her herself!!!!)
You dont even want to know what she was like at shows.
 
Wow. I am grateful to say I don't think I've ever seen anything like that around here. There are a few kids who tack up and go off to their lesson while their mother cleans the stall (which always makes me raise my eyebrows - I don't recall anyone ever cleaning MY stall) but they don't act high and mighty about it.

I've never seen that kind of abusive kid, though I will admit to having seen bossy and obnoxious parents at shows - the kind who berate a kid for getting 2nd instead of 1st.
 
When im older and have kids if they EVER behaved like that at a show they would straight off the pony and be going home! There is no excuse for it!

It is annoying though when your trying to get ready and parents/people wont leave you alone, and as you are about to compete its already quite a stress filled enviroment.
 
Its sooo easy for kids to take for granted what they have....I would have scooped out my own (and others) eyeballs for my own pony when I was little.....my daughter has had her own pony since aged 2.....we have 3 horses, our own small yard, transport...granted- none of it is posh ( including the horses:D) but its a million times more than anything I ever had...and its cos my parents couldn't afford it, not because they were mean to me;)

I don't allow her to get that way....she was being a madam the other week....so, when she wouldn't stop her motor mouth and she was getting well out of order.....I 'forcibly removed':eek: her from her pony and sent her off to the lock-up with a flea in her ear about what a spoily brat she was being.

Soon sorted her out.....no way am I going to be one of those mothers that puts up with that sort of thing.....Grrrr:mad:
 
It is very sad. Me and my best friend had our first ponies and I was 11 and she was 12 (now 29 and 30 lol) and we were never like this. We never had the most expensive ponies (mine def wasn't I fell off him every day) but we had fun. My dad and her mum were golden they would take us to fun rides and sit with the papers waiting for us to come back. We never looked at what tack other people had or compared ponies or laughed if someone couldn't jump. If someone was struggling in the ring everyone would run in and lower jumps or shooe said pony over. I don't think I would like to be a kid with a pony now. I wouldn't fit in. We weren't poor but def not rich and my pony cost £700 as a 4 year old and I had to bring him on myself. My dad never mucked out or cleaned tack. We did absolutely everything ourselves. We had new stuff when we needed it not because it was new and expensive or everyone else had one.

We knew we were very lucky, makes me very sad to see kids screaming at their parents and demanding stuff.
 
It sometimes stems from the kid being there to realise the parents ambitions I think. I dont see a lot of behaviour like that around here but did have a livery whose behaviour worsened as she got older. One of the other liveries came to the yard to find this child effing and blinding at her parents...father turned to livery and said...."what do you do?", shrugging. Livery (also a parent) said "put the horse straight back in the field and go home". Which of course didnt happen.

Guess which sort of behaviour resulted in them being asked to leave:cool:

I have kids myself so I am not denigrating them all.
 
madeleine1 said:
Makes me really sad, if I'd been so lucky to have a pony when I was younger, I don't think I would ever have treated it that way.

i really have to agree with this comment. im only 20 and i wish i had had a pony when i was little and the one or two my mummy managed to loan me when i was younger i loved to pieces and work so hard on even when they were truly awful. i know have my own amazing 16hh princess and i cant imagine ever complaining at her if she hadnt won although i dont think she knows how not to win lol
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I'm the same I'm 20 now and have a part loan who is more like my own with the bond we have than I think I'll ever know!! She's naughty and bolshy in the ring and sometimes we get placed (never 1st! maybe 3rd..out of 3 :P) and sometimes we don't but it's all good fun and any good placings are a bonus :) I can't see why kids sometimes can't just see the fun in showing and treat it like a day out :( its a crying shame.
 
My daughter has had her pony since the age of 8, her first pony was a nightmare and she learnt alot from her, took the rough with the smooth. She had to prove to me that she could do ALL the jobs herself before she was bought a pony, which she did.

I do recall though, one incident when we were at a show and my daughter was getting 'abit stroppy' with me, barking orders etc, i allowed it to continue for approx 2 minutes whilst i calmly moved her and her pony from a group of people, once out of the way, my daughter was 'removed' from her pony, made to un tack and load the pony and we went home (she still had 2 classes to do) with my daughter crying all the way home.

She knew what she had done, and by the time we got back to the yard she was most apologetic.

I'm not saying that she was perfect at every show after that, but she knew when she had overstepped the mark.

She is now 18 years old and still has a horse and still competes and loves it still, so never did her any harm.
 
Theres no need for kids 2 be so rude to there parents!!If the kids didn't have there parents to take them to shows they wouldn't get there!!!

I remember on TV watching POYS and this girl came second and started crying because she didn't win :eek: Some people are so ungrateful i would love to go to POYS or HOYS and come second i would pinch myself as i think i would be dreaming if i got second lol x
 
Sadly there are a lot of them around :(

I'm afraid I do occasionally comment if I see something really awful!

My boys would love to ride but we cannot afford to run another beastie but on the occasion they are allowed to ride or sit on a pony they are taught to be quite and well behaved. And certainly around my horses they have to behave. In fact Oliver was the first person to properly sit on my youngster :D with due care and attention and two people on the ground.
 
I do blame the parents for putting up with it though.

I know a mother / daughter who both have horses. When she is finished riding, daughter sits in the office drinking tea and smoking while mother sorts both horses out. Mother will occasionally pop her head round the door, asking 'can I feed him yet' and will be met with a snappy 'how should I know. Feel him and if he is cool, then feed him' - and mum toddles off.
Well, sorry, if you are going to be such a doormat, you deserve to be walked all over.
 
My parents would have taken me home and sold my pony for behaving like that!! I was always made very aware that my ponies were a luxury that i should be grateful for and they would soon disappear should i become a spoilt brat :D The benefits of having non-horsey parents!! Very much underrated :)
 
But it is more fool the parents at the end of the day, surely? If I ever did anything like that my mum would have just taken the pony away. I once went to a party after hunting and didn't clean my tack before (it was mums tack and our rule was always that after comps or hunting horses and tack was done before we saw to ourselves) I wasn't allowed out hunting for a month, once you have to deal with the consequences you learn how it goes.
I don't think it sounds like a spoilt child, just a very bad mannered one.
 
jumpinghorse said:
Hate it when people ae annoyed with their horse for coming 2nd not 1st. Im always pleased with a placing, unless it's 6th and there was 7 in the class or something :p

These kids seem really ott but it is annoying when parents are always bugging you in warm up/getting ready etc.
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i know exactly what you mean isaw one girl go off in a strop cos she came 2nd !!
 
Well, sorry, if you are going to be such a doormat, you deserve to be walked all over.

Agree, Bad Parenting makes spoilt kids!!
 
baymareb said:
Wow. I am grateful to say I don't think I've ever seen anything like that around here. There are a few kids who tack up and go off to their lesson while their mother cleans the stall (which always makes me raise my eyebrows - I don't recall anyone ever cleaning MY stall) but they don't act high and mighty about it.
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lol.

my dad used to muck my stable out when i rode if he ever came up and was waiting for me.

think it was a more hurry up im bored then helpful though.lol
 
RunToEarth said:
But it is more fool the parents at the end of the day, surely? If I ever did anything like that my mum would have just taken the pony away. I once went to a party after hunting and didn't clean my tack before (it was mums tack and our rule was always that after comps or hunting horses and tack was done before we saw to ourselves) I wasn't allowed out hunting for a month, once you have to deal with the consequences you learn how it goes.
I don't think it sounds like a spoilt child, just a very bad mannered one.
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Exactly! Children only know what they are taught. Yes, its appalling behaviour, but until they are old enough to know better, the blame lies firmly with the parents. We had a child at our yard who was given everything she wanted and she talked to her mother like she was dirt on her boots. The mother used to laugh - she actually seemed to think it was cute! The problem was, this child thought it was an acceptable way to speak to people and she fell out with everyone on the yard before eventually leaving. She's got horrible manners, yet she's beautiful, intelligent, talented and big hearted. Its a shame really.
 
If I had behaved like that I would have felt the end of my crop on my backside and my mouth washed out with soap by mother who was a very easy going mum. I had to look after my pony unless I was ill from the age of eight.

My niece is ten. I have taught her to ride, but from the first day also to look after the pony. She mucks out, grooms, poo picks or she does not ride. I never have to tell her to do her pony, she knows it is part of riding. I do help with some of the work where she is still small, but now it is rare that she needs me apart from to put the saddle on and fork the muck up high on the heap.

I have never seen her tell Jet off (apart from when he bucks on occasion) and whilst I know she would never take out not winning on him, if she did, she would be dragged off there and then and get the end of the whip on her arse to show her what it felt like and no competing for the rest of the season.

Problem is if parent act like slaves/doormat then what hope has the kid of turning out well?

Society today does not help, no real discipline as we can't upset the little angels and god help you if you do punish them. You reap what you sow.
 
My mums attitude was "I don't want it you do, so you can look after it!"
My mum never in my life mucked out my stables (even if i go away now my stepdad will do it ;) ) She would get up at 6 with me before school and fill up water buckets etc but i did it all myself and i never minded as i was so grateful to have a horse :)
 
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