Spotty stallions??

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Hiya, i am interested in spotted stallion so i found few but would like to get good stallion who had graded etc... not silly or worthless etc...

many thanks
 
Yes I have used Private B Riker, I got a lovely blanket colt last year out of my WB mare by Pro-Set. We took the foal to the BEF Futurity Evaluation and he received a 1st Premium, the evaluators commented on how much power he was showing in his paces. They said they liked him when they saw him stood up and then REALLY liked him when they saw him move.

Some pics and a video of my spotty botty boy

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I am expecting 2 foals this year by him too, both out of International Endurance Arabian mares, the mares are both grey (one homozygous) so if they get spots, they will fade, but we have used him not just because he is spotty, but because he is a very nicely put together horse with a superb temperament.
 
To be politically correct, Private B Riker is not a QH he is an Appaloosa,
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(I am only saying this as I got corrected
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) however saying that I am not sure what the difference is really,
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Is there anyone out there that can clarify it for us please, as to me he looks very much like a QH
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Jolly jack (Centaur stud) is a gorgeous, tall appaloosa stallion and stands in Leicestershire, I have seen him in person and would defo use him on a mare. Jolly jack has evented at a decent level. The other spotted I liked was Hamlet Frydenlund, he is a knabbstrupper and competed at grand prix dressage. These were the only two that had some height and decent competition record. I was NOT impressed with ANY of the other spotted stallions at all (apart from a decent, smallish appy in Lancashire). Depends what type you want to breed??
 
I used a Grade B registered British Appaloosa - Lambrigg Valentine. He stands at a small private yard but he does cover some outside mares. He has BD points and is currently BE Eventing at Novice level. He's also an Appy with a lot of QH breeding. The spotty in my sig is the result from my Show Hunter/WHP/allrounder mare. Last I heard he'd grown and is now about 16.2/16.3 but I'm sure he was 16hh when I used him!
 
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Well they have that much QH the only difference is the spots but as he does, I will stand corrected he is an Appaloosa, with a lot of QH breeding.

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Actually there are a lot of early QH's with Appaloosa in their pedigrees and paint and mustang and Morgan and TB and Standardbred etc etc etc. Just like there are other breeds in Warmbloods. I know for a fact that many prominent individuals in a UK native breed not naming names have another breed close up in their lines, just as the recent genetic project in Ireland established inconsistencies in TB pedigrees, albeit that the breed is pure, just the parents wrong! I also make no bones in my personal thoughts about how dilute and Overo got into the modern TB!

Until all breed societies DNA test that will be the case, because some humans are rule breakers and it has happened in most breeds, except the Icelandic as they banned other horses being imported and that’s precisely why they were used to establish the equine genome, they were guaranteed pure!

In the USA the history tells it all really, that before the pleasure/ competition market got going and the breed registries were established in the USA there was a mixing of all sorts of horses, because who cared what breed it was when you need to work cattle on a ranch, you don’t get picky! So basically out of that mix of working horses came the Paints, QH, Apps etc of the modern era.

Many roan QH’s were in fact Appaloosas and we have all seen on this forum solid horses outcropping into spots and one of Rikers relatives is an Appaloosa from two QH's!. One very famous appaloosa’s mother also spawned a top class racing QH with blue eyes!!! Basically in order to save the breeds they had to take what they had and some of those early registrations were horse consisting of many breeds or even unknown breeding. QH's today still allow TB into the breed with performance criteria.

If you read the Appaloosa Horse Club registration rules you will see that the QH is a permissible outcross as are TB's and Arabs, which allows breeders flexibility, they also run a Foundation Pedigree Designation register for those horses that are several generations of Appaloosa breeding.

There is also the Canadian ApHCC which do not allow out crossing to Arabians but also run an F generation purity indicator. The Foundation Appaloosa Horse Registry who are dedicated to registering and producing the original type similar to those bred by the Nez Perce. The Nez Perce are breeding again using modern Appaloosas and the Akhal-Teke. So in effect breeders of Appaloosas have a great deal of flexibility.

Personally they are my breed of choice and I cannot be more pleased with the horses I have bred from my TB mare and from my Working Cow Horse mare I imported from the USA. They have a great deal of character, have superb temperaments and are very talented responsive horses with one hell of an engine which they only use when you ask them too! I have just sold a very promising youngster that is looking every bit a future advanced event horse with wonderful paces, temperament and a bigger IQ than some people I know! His ½ sister by a lovely young Foundation Appaloosa stallion is looking like she will follow in his footsteps and will be graded this year.
 
i am afraid we did suddenly lose Hamlet in January he was an exceptional horse to own not only as a competion horse but as friend and he is sorely missed.

I would like to thank everyone that has contacted us for their kind words.
 
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