Spray training collars

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Ok, a bit of a long one!

I have two 18 month old cocker spaniel boys, one of whom, Elvis, is deaf. He is the most persistant little b*gger but we have taught him a signal for no which he understands, but he seems to have rather a short term memory and we have to keep telling him no when we don't want him to do something. This is perfectly fine until is comes to bedtime.

He sleeps with the other dog in the spare bedroom where they have a choice of dog beds and a little house. They go to bed willingly (and take themselves off there if they are tired) but every morning, Elvis will wake up from 3am onwards and scratch / run at the door. We can hear him running around the room (agh laminate floors!) If we go in the room and tell him off and signal bed, he will go back to sleep for another hour or so and then do the same. We can continue to do this all night and he will keep going back to sleep but getting up 4 times a night is becoming stressful! If we ignore him, he will continue to scratch and then occasionally starts moaning and barking, and will happily do this for as many hours as we let him! As soon as we tell him off, he's back to bed for another hour.

We've tried him sleeping in different areas and he is most settled in the bedroom. We've tried baby gates but he literally wraps his paw around the bars and rattles them (it's like he's in prison :eek: ) At one of our darkest hours, we tried him in sleeping with us on the bed :( *hides* but he still gets up, walks about and scratches on the door. We've tried using a crate with him since he was a baby but it's just a no-no. He just doesn't understand it and we all find it so upsetting.

I'm not sure what he wants when he gets up. He won't go outside if it's offered so doesn't need the loo, sometimes I think he might just want to check that we're still there? Who knows!

So we're now thinking about a remote controlled spray collar. Being the weird little dog that he is, he'll probably enjoy the spray, but before I spend £100, any ideas?
 
Bless! I can't really help except to say that perhaps he is nervous of being left, even with his mate. Have you tried leaving on the light? As the one sense is gone, does he rely on sight more?


And can we have pictures?:o
 
NO NO NO please don't.

They are awful awful things worse than e collars in my opinion.

My dog was serisouly burnt by one that malfunctioned.

But other than that its cruel especially the citronella ones. Dogs hate the smell and their sense of smell is much better than ours and its painful for them to have such a strong smell sprayed right under their nose. If you have ever been to a perfume factory you know th feeding.

It sound like separation anxiety and punishing him will only make it worse. Get in a behaviorist that has good knowledge on separation anxiety.
 
Pictures? Oh if I must :D

I've tried leaving the light on but it makes no difference. The vet said that his other senses would improve to make up for the 'lost' one, but that really hasn't happened! He's such a doughnut!

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I'm not totally comfortable with them, but I definitely wouldn't in this case as I think your timing has to be absolutely precise, which is not easy when you are half asleep! It is so easy to make things even worse with those things.

I would also try and find a behaviourist since your boy obviously has special needs and to give good advice I think someone needs to see him in person, so to speak.

He is gorgeous, and I hope you get sorted:)
 
I have used them, as a training aid when a dog was p***ing off hunting, to just get the attention, as spudlet says the timing has to be spot on and I don't really think it is applicable in the case of your lad.
My older GSD is losing her sight and it has definitely made her more insecure, she seems to be okay when I am out of the house (have spied on her through windows) but during the day she gets very restless if she is not in the same room as me. She does settle at night but has always slept shut in the kitchen. It does sound to me as if it is an insecurity issue with Elvis, I think a behaviourist is a good idea.
 
I have nothing against splash collars at all and have seen them work fab, but I agree in this instance it may not work, can u create a smaller space within the space, if u dont want to use a crate maybe try an indoor dog kennel, like an igloo type one and push it against a wall to block the door off to create a small darkened den.
 
Many thanks for your excellent replies. I will search for a behaviourist, one with a particular knowledge of deaf dogs which may be a bit limiting!

I love the igloo idea - he will take well to that as he loves his little house!

Thanks again :D
 
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