What is the advantage of having a springer/cocker cross? I get some of the other crosses because of no hair shedding etc. but you are just getting a dog with twice the energy !
Sprockers
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AmyMay
Situation normal
Not all Cockers are as mad as pants ?
No but I still dont get why the cross, unless its accidental ? Are there some traits that are beneficial with the cross?
Just interested, not being judgy. (My cocker is not mad as pants but on the go and restless even at 11)
Just interested, not being judgy. (My cocker is not mad as pants but on the go and restless even at 11)
Spotherisk
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If you look at spaniel history springers and cockers came about from a different in weight - until then they were the same breed.
PapaverFollis
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Hardly a controversial cross, they're practically the same breed and probably shouldn't have been separated out in the first place.
FinnishLapphund
There's no cow on the ice
I think I've read a post on here ages ago, mentioning something about that it simply was some gamekeepers who tried doing the cross because they wanted a robust dog with traits from both breeds, they liked the result, and on that way it is.
But having a quick look around both in some of my dog breed books, and online, I found the same interesting fact which Spotherisk talks about above: By the 1880's, Springers and Cocker Spaniels were often born in the same litters.
Some years later they where separated into two different breeds by the Kennel Club, but basically, it wasn't that long ago that their origin was actually exactly the same. So if there actually was any gamekeepers who started the Sprocker "trend", maybe they either decided to try to go back to the origin, or perhaps they simply never quite stopped breeding their type of Spaniel with a bit of both Springer and Cocker.
But having a quick look around both in some of my dog breed books, and online, I found the same interesting fact which Spotherisk talks about above: By the 1880's, Springers and Cocker Spaniels were often born in the same litters.
Some years later they where separated into two different breeds by the Kennel Club, but basically, it wasn't that long ago that their origin was actually exactly the same. So if there actually was any gamekeepers who started the Sprocker "trend", maybe they either decided to try to go back to the origin, or perhaps they simply never quite stopped breeding their type of Spaniel with a bit of both Springer and Cocker.
PapaverFollis
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Plus...
What's not to love?
What's not to love?
TPO
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Have my Cocker bible to hand (The cocker spaniel by Janet Menzies)
Until early 1900s they were the same dog until the Kennel Club brought in a minimum weight, 25lb, so anything smaller was by default a cocker.
It was hunting woodcock that apparently got them their name. Just repeating whats in the book!
I've been told that springers are calmer than cockers and work differently so perhaps the aim of the cross is to try to get thr best of both breeds??
Thanks TPO thats really interesting ! The cocker in the middle at the back in the group looks just like mine !
Moobli
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So interesting, thank you. I didn’t know this. Every day is a school day.
TPO
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I didn't know anything about them until I got the book.and I probably should have read it before getting the dog ??
Moobli
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Haha why spoil the surprise by learning everything beforehand ?
I can concur with the cockers being clingy and having their paws on their owners thigh ! Mine is always looking me straight in the face from her bed in case I move and needs endless cuddles. Luckily she is not so clingy that she cant be left.
smolmaus
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My Nanny bought herself a sprocker and he grew the head and body size of a springer with little cocker legs, he looks ridiculous and is mad as a box of frogs. He is a very sweet boy but too much for me, and for my 84yo Nanny, he's more my uncles dog now. Pictured with my OH who is used to better behaved dogs ?
Christmascinnamoncookie
Fais pas chier!
Velcro dogs, mine would like to be inside my skin if possible. Must be on my knee, or at least be with the humans.
Karran
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Fascinating Reading! And yes! Mrs Spaniel likes to sleep with a paw resting on my leg, so she's ready to go the instant I move! Velcro dogs is a fab description!
