Stables and Allotment in the Greenbelt

[Preesallund]

Hi all just looking for a bit of advice. We have just moved from Yorkshire to the West Midlands. We applied for planning permission for stables in Yorkshire and had it granted, the land was greenbelt former agricultural land.

We now want to do the same in the West Midlands, the land is again greenbelt however was previously used as a water treatment works and so is not very “green” at all.

We want to apply for a double stable and feed store and small allotment.

What approach would you suggest taking, I think we can justify the stable as Recreation facilities which are permitted within the greenbelt, would I require planning for the allotment?

The site is wholly within a woodland, bounded to one side by a Motorway and within a natural hollow so it will definitely not affect the visual openness of the green belt as the land cannot be seen from any neighbouring property or road.

Any advice on how to proceed would be fantastic.

 

[Preesallund]

Also as a side note, does permitted development apply to fencing within the greenbelt ? Or would the fencing of the land require planning in itself?

 

[rabatsa]

Fencing does not usually require any planning. Permitted development needs a minimum acreage of 5ha and does not automatically guarantee getting permission it just speeds up the process. Growing food crops is agricultural so should not need planning but flowers can be a change of use, it often depends on your local council.

 

[Otherly]

If it has been used as something before it’s a brown field site... if there is no contamination I don’t see why you shouldn’t get planning tbh. Is there a house there? If there is you can build a stable within the curtilage as permitted development

 

[Preesallund]

No there’s no longer any buildings on site, some remnants of the access road remains. Would altering from a woodland to grazing constitute a material change of use.

 

[Preesallund]

Also the land has almost entirely reverted, after reason the NPFF framework I’m led to believe that I can’t claim brownfield status

 

[pixie]

Its the sort of thing that can vary considerably from council to council, so your best bet would be to contact the planning department about this particular case and perhaps arrange a site visit.