stallion being cut late

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Does anyone know or have experience of a stallion being cut late and any problems. A YO is importing a warmblood 4 years old and before it gets imported it is being gelded. Does anyone know whether he will still act like a stallion etc or whether there may be problems? It is nothing to do with me personally but someone i know has a mare (the only mare on the yard) and is concerned it may be problamatic.

Any ideas or experiences?
 
I knew a stallion that was cut at age 9 due to loss of land. He was fine, took about about 8 weeks for his hormones to disappear. He did still tend to herd some of the ponies up, but nothing nasty. (He used to run with mares)

Another one I knew was gelded at 5, again a few weeks for hormones to go, but he was a doddle as he had only covered a couple of mares inhand.
 
Mine was gelded at rising 8. He is very laid back and does not generally show any stallion like behaviour. The only thing he does do is act quite dominant when face to face with another horse. Neck will arch and tense and then he will strike out really big. I don't put him in the situation to allow him to do it. In the field he is absolutely fine and all in all he is a real polite sweetheart.
 
My old boy was gelded at 11, just before I got him. He was quite aloof with other horses when turned out. Ignored mares. Was quite opinionated, and didn't suffer fools or wimps of the human variety. He was generally fine with other horses, mares or geldings, as long as they didn't crowd him.
 
Mine can be a pig but i dont know if he's just got an appytude. He will mount mares in season but only if they beg for it and he ignores them otherwise. I have a shetland mare that he likes to be horrible to (and squeals for her when she's gone). He's boisterous in hand at times but only when he's distracted. I do use oestraban but am going to see how he goes when he comes off it at the end of the tub.
 
Honestly don't worry - Shy was gelded late (wish he hadn't been tbh), and he's a saint with all horses, inc mares. Just take it slowly, i did have to use a chifney at the start. :)
 
I wouldn't class 4 as old/late. If he's not been used for covering, then I doubt it will be a huge problem, though again, you get ones who go against the grain so ultimately depends on the horse.

I've known one or two 'well seasoned' studs who were cut in their early teens for various reasons, and went on to be lovely geldings with no hint of their former career.
Yet equally, have known some [slightly younger ironicly] who still had stud-like tendencies even once cut, or at least took a good 6 months to finally 'behave' like geldings.

I'm sure he will be fine, keep him away from mares for a few weeks to be dead certain of no 'accidents' and just keep an eye on him and introduce as gradually as you would normal. :)
 
I gelded my horse at 5.5 years old. Within a few days he was so much more gelding like and within 2 weeks he was being turned out with 1 other gelding.

Depends what he is like as a stallion. They all take different amount of time. Also the older they are, the more time it could take to adjust.

I am talking about PRE's, and they are known for being quiet behaved stallions anyway. But warmbloods I know are more....stalliony (generally speaking).

I actually had my horse as a stallion at the yard before I gelded him......full of mares! you can imagine all the comments I am sure :p:p was funny really, as my horse prefered the boys and all he wanted to do was kiss and nibble them, he had no idea what his wotsit was!!!!!!!!!! BLESS.

I would not worry, they just need to see how he is when he arrives and decide on things then.
 
My boy is 6 and he was a serving stallion till 5 and he is an angel though he is an american paint horse and they are known for thier calm temprement even when entire. when i bought he'd been cut a year and had started being turned out next to his old lady firends and babies but had never been turned out with another horse, over the space fo 3months i worked on integrating my lad with the herd and he is fine if anything hes a bit of a wuss and gets picked on but not a scrap of stallion behaviour to be seen. but i get the impression hes always been a big softie i honeslty can't fault his temprement
 
I've posted on a similar thread before but my vet told me it depends completely on the horse(and not even necessarily whether they've ever covered or not.) He said he's gelded some that had covered a mare the day before and then 3days post-op you'd never have known they'd only just been cut (would think they'd been a gelding for years) and then others,who'd never covered, yet post-op,never lost their stallion tendencies. He said that yes,testosterone levels will diminish in the weeks/months post-op but that sometimes the behaviour never did-all down to the individual case.
 
topstripelucy said:
It is nothing to do with me personally but someone i know has a mare (the only mare on the yard) and is concerned it may be problamatic.

Any ideas or experiences?
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Says it all really? It's nothing to do with you!
Stallions don't act like rampaging wild beasts, they are (for the most part) kept on the yard with mares and foals, they are perfectly well behaved and pose no problems for anyone.
If your friend is concerned she would be better to discuss the concerns with the YO than listen to random people who have no idea about this particular horse (and usually any particular stallion/former stallion).
 
Yes it defo depends on the horse. My vet said that it takes 6 months (or 9 months can't remember what one!) for all the swimmers to completely go from the body. So this does not happen straight after castration!!! they can still cover.
 
I have a 7yr old warmblood and he was also imported as a 4yr old so I assume he was also gelded before hopping on the boat. I don't think its to do with how late they get done its whether they are done properly you need to worry about. Mine is very stallion like in some ways, which makes me think he still has some hormones left in there!! He can't go out with mares as he mounts them and is very dominent with them, he has, however, been turned out with a herd of geldings and is fine. It also affects him when being ridden if he has been with mares or "sniffed" one, he loses concentration and just acts like a d**k! :rolleyes: he's fine tied on the yard, travelling or being ridden with others at shows and never acts like this with me. We also have a stallion and he's as good as gold, can travel with mares and will stand at shows next to my gelding, I keep saying to mine "now he is a REAL stallion, not you!" he just likes to think he is :D
 
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