charlie76
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How do you keep them? Are they at a normal livery yard and do you need to take any special precautions in caring for them.
We are considering a stallion next.
We are considering a stallion next.
Stallion owners(ordinary people not studs)....
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sikaran
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You might find that 'normal' livery yards are reluctant to take stallions because they need solo turnout and/or special fencing. Best to check this out before you even consider it.
charlie76
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Thats not a problem as I run the yard so make the decisions!
What type of fencing do they need etc?
What type of fencing do they need etc?
Enfys
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Thats not a problem as I run the yard so make the decisions!
What type of fencing do they need etc?
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It all depends on the horse himself (size, temperament etc) but I would say something solid and high enough to discourage him breasting it or jumping out and impregnating your liveries!
My colt is at home he is in a paddock with 9 strand stock fencing running outside of 5' post and rails with a strand of hot wire running inside that. It was already fenced like that for Highland cattle which are, apparently, notorious for just walking through anything and everything. That particular paddock also has a walkway between it and the nearest one so tarty mares (especially the boarders) can't shove their bums directly in his face. I keep that paddock for geldings and the alpacas anyway.
Do you have your eye a stallion then?
Thats not a problem as I run the yard so make the decisions!
What type of fencing do they need etc?
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It all depends on the horse himself (size, temperament etc) but I would say something solid and high enough to discourage him breasting it or jumping out and impregnating your liveries!
My colt is at home he is in a paddock with 9 strand stock fencing running outside of 5' post and rails with a strand of hot wire running inside that. It was already fenced like that for Highland cattle which are, apparently, notorious for just walking through anything and everything. That particular paddock also has a walkway between it and the nearest one so tarty mares (especially the boarders) can't shove their bums directly in his face. I keep that paddock for geldings and the alpacas anyway.
Do you have your eye a stallion then?
charlie76
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I've been looking 'sort of'. I would like perhaps an iberian horse to do dressage on.
wonkey_donkey
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I have had three stallions over the years, one at livery and the other two at home. All mine were well behaved but I would still think very carefully about having a stallion particularly at livery. They do have 'special needs' even if they are very well behaved. Minor things such as turning them out, travelling, position on yard etc can become a nightmare and often other people / clients can get 'funny' with you having a stallion ie 'oh I can't hack out with you if your going on the stallion' etc! I personally hate to see stallions penned up in a stable out the way of anything that moves so I would only have one if able to provide him with suitable turn-out and /or a 'play area'. I loved having all mine and they all jumped BSJA where stallions are widely accepted at shows but they are a lot of extra work and responsibility so think long and hard would be my advice.
Fairynuff
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Why do you need a 'stallion' to do dressage. Im sorry, if you have to ask advice on stallions on livery yards , you are obviously (IMHO) not ready for one! Stick to geldings, they are more straight forward and usually more forgiving.
conker
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i have 2 stallions on my driving yard and they have to work with mares and geldings in pairs and teams,they do lessons with beginners and advanced drivers. stallions are great you can really build a bond with them and the iberian stallions normaly have a great temperment and are easy going.
it is finding the right yard with the right attitude towards stallions and good luck
it is finding the right yard with the right attitude towards stallions and good luck
Shilasdair
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Couldn't agree more.
Why do you want a stallion? Is it to breed from? If so, do you have a covering yard? What sort of bloodlines/performance record would your stallion need? What sort of mare (market) would your stallion attract, if any?
You may run the yard...but what if your liveries leave because they are worried about him? How will you manage him? How will you keep him happy rather than lonely, isolated, etc. What effect will he have on your insurance? If you go to shows, how will he behave with mares in season if you haven't exposed him to them?
How will you travel him?
Where will you buy him? Would they sell you a top notch horse cheaply? If not can you afford an expensive horse? How will you know if he's fertile or not? Will you get him vetted for equine disease nasties? If you stand him, will you cover in hand or by AI? Have you any experience of these?
I'm sure you have answers to all of these questions, but if you haven't, a stallion isn't a good move.
S
Why do you want a stallion? Is it to breed from? If so, do you have a covering yard? What sort of bloodlines/performance record would your stallion need? What sort of mare (market) would your stallion attract, if any?
You may run the yard...but what if your liveries leave because they are worried about him? How will you manage him? How will you keep him happy rather than lonely, isolated, etc. What effect will he have on your insurance? If you go to shows, how will he behave with mares in season if you haven't exposed him to them?
How will you travel him?
Where will you buy him? Would they sell you a top notch horse cheaply? If not can you afford an expensive horse? How will you know if he's fertile or not? Will you get him vetted for equine disease nasties? If you stand him, will you cover in hand or by AI? Have you any experience of these?
I'm sure you have answers to all of these questions, but if you haven't, a stallion isn't a good move.
S
Tia
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Is it you who is buying the stallion, or the owner of the yard?
Shilasdair has once again come up with excellent questions that hopefully you have already figured out the answers to.
I will not board anyone else's stallion on my yard, although I did have my own. None of my liveries were bothered about him being here as they met him and realised what he was like, however some people do not want to keep their horses on yards where there is a stallion being housed.
Shilasdair has once again come up with excellent questions that hopefully you have already figured out the answers to.
I will not board anyone else's stallion on my yard, although I did have my own. None of my liveries were bothered about him being here as they met him and realised what he was like, however some people do not want to keep their horses on yards where there is a stallion being housed.
eventing_chick
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THB they are a bit of a pain in the arse, I had 2 gelded one today (poor chap) but we are properly set up to cater for them.
Livery yards are notorious for horse owning 'numpties'(not you) and thier lack of concideration can lead to a serious if not dangerous incident.
My older lad could be a complete idiot in the wrong unsettled enviroment,We notice that the whole yard is his heard and he can be a bit sensitive.
Competition enviroment also is worth thinking about as stallions can be agressive towards other horses, mine luckily never has show that,but i firmly belive that when you have a stallion in public you have a very important responibility to keep other horses and riders safe.
I don't mean to sound too negative,If you are not intending to breed i really don't think it's worth the bother
Livery yards are notorious for horse owning 'numpties'(not you) and thier lack of concideration can lead to a serious if not dangerous incident.
My older lad could be a complete idiot in the wrong unsettled enviroment,We notice that the whole yard is his heard and he can be a bit sensitive.
Competition enviroment also is worth thinking about as stallions can be agressive towards other horses, mine luckily never has show that,but i firmly belive that when you have a stallion in public you have a very important responibility to keep other horses and riders safe.
I don't mean to sound too negative,If you are not intending to breed i really don't think it's worth the bother
fairhill
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There are 2 stallion liveries on my yard. They have no turn out, except in the school occasionally for 30 mins during winter. There has been a near miss recently where one escaped from the owner when being led and ran to a mare who was being schooled and tried to leap on her. Thankfully no one was hurt this time, except the stallion who got some cuts. It's not an ideal set up for either of the stallions on my yard, but their owner seems happy with it.
Navalgem
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Lots depend on the stallion. I have a fantastic 2-year old colt kept at livery (whom I'm planning to keep entire), he's already covered my mare (she's in foal) and he hasn't suddently started acting stupid, my 2 year old daughter came into the stable all winter and spring (even during the time he covered my mare) and he always behaved impeccably. The YO is very experienced with colts/stallions so I've always someone more experienced than I to call on if he does start acting the goat. The other 5 stallions I've known of hers were all true gents, one of whom would hack out with in-season mares and not even look at them (always used 1 bit for covering and another for riding so knew difference) though i doubt many would be that good!
IMHO stallions are still a horse and should be treated the same as any other, handlers just need to be more aware of potential dangerous/undesirable situations and do everything possible to reduce the chances of these occurring.
IMHO stallions are still a horse and should be treated the same as any other, handlers just need to be more aware of potential dangerous/undesirable situations and do everything possible to reduce the chances of these occurring.
charlie76
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It will be the yard owner. She is thinking of perhaps purchasing one to be ridden and competed and also with the possibilty of doing some stud duties.
We have another sister yard with 8 stables and around 100 acres so grazing is not a problem- we can seperate him.
We have another sister yard with 8 stables and around 100 acres so grazing is not a problem- we can seperate him.