Stallion suggestions for my pony mare

[Spring Feather]

and its quite normal for a vet to carefully remove the placenta

We're obviously living in completely different worlds because in mine it is not *normal* to manually remove placentas. Certainly not when the foal has only been born a couple of hours previously. It might be something vets would consider many hours/days later, but that would only be after trying everything else to have it expel naturally.

 

[twiggy2]

Its definitely got sentimental purposes but also would love to breed my own. My mare was my lifetime horse and just want to have something that has a part of her but potentially a bit bigger and longer. However, as its been stated that I may not even get a bigger foal its something to consider.

As I am curious what makes a mare worthwhile breeding from if you only want the foal to keep? I know you cannot predict the way things may turn out, but there are tonnes of horses out their that have unknown breeding but are fantastic horses, would I really be adding to the problem to breed 1 foal for myself?

a mare can throw a foal that has the stamp of something way back in her past breeding, if you know the mares breeding and lines she is from you have more idea of what she might throw back to. you are right there are tonnes of lovely horses from unknown breeding out there but there are more that are less than lovely too. it is higher risk you will not get what you want from an unknown breed line.
a few years ago at work a 14.1hh welsh D mare (tallest mare in her very old bloodlines) was put to a traditional cob Amadeus (15,1hh), he obviously threw back to something way in the past as last time I saw the result she was 16.2hh at just turned 3yrs-historically the stallion does not throw anything bigger than himself, the owner of the mare wanted a lightweight show cob max 15.1hh and the result was sold as she was far to big.

 

[AmyMay]

Op, you need to get a very clear picture of what happened to your mare post foaling. Either the people who have bred from her are clueless (hence their rather odd description of events), or they are simply not being clear enough in that description. You also need to speak to the vet who examined her.

As for a stallion - I'd look at a nice little TB no bigger than 16hh.

 

[FreshandMinty]

I know her anyway and she is just setting her own stud, wanted to use some different mares to see what they throw, she had my mare, a SJ pony, a tradition cob and a welsh d.

hmm :/ does this person really know what they are doing? They sound terribly inexperienced and haphazard You breeding your mare for a foal for yourself is one thing and I wish you all the luck in the world,at least you will have this experience to draw on.

How is the foal doing now?

 

[whirlwindhorses]

We're obviously living in completely different worlds because in mine it is not *normal* to manually remove placentas. Certainly not when the foal has only been born a couple of hours previously. It might be something vets would consider many hours/days later, but that would only be after trying everything else to have it expel naturally.

We are in different countries. As no one saw this foal being born then no one knows how many hours the afterbirth had been retained for. I didn't say it was normal to remove the afterbirth 'after a couple of hours', most normal foalings don't pass the afterbirth for three to four hours or not in my experience anyway. I wouldn't phone a vet to remove afterbirth before eight hours but if they haven't passed it by that point then even with a jab of oxytocin they are unlikely to pass it without help or none of mine have anyway. In this country most vets advise that afterbirth is out of the mare within 8 hours.

 

[Spring Feather]

We are in different countries. As no one saw this foal being born then no one knows how many hours the afterbirth had been retained for. I didn't say it was normal to remove the afterbirth 'after a couple of hours', most normal foalings don't pass the afterbirth for three to four hours or not in my experience anyway. I wouldn't phone a vet to remove afterbirth before eight hours but if they haven't passed it by that point then even with a jab of oxytocin they are unlikely to pass it without help or none of mine have anyway. In this country most vets advise that afterbirth is out of the mare within 8 hours.

True, and veterinarians and owners have their own standards as to when and what course of action should be taken. I think it's individual rather than global differences of opinions though.

Loan person saw mare acting odd at 5.30am and the foal was born within a 15 min period (from what I recall), photos were put up around 10am so the foal was less than 5 hours old. That would not have been a time frame I would be comfortable with giving permission to a vet to manually remove the placenta. Anyway so far it seems that the mare is none the worse for wear and her little foal is coming along a treat :smile3: