Stallion's floppy neck??????

minime, do you know how to condition score a horse? If not, google it, have a read of a few pages, print a chart off so you have it to hand when you're with him, and I'd suggest doing an objective condition score on him - remembering you're looking at/feeling for fat coverage not muscle. This will tell you whether he needs to lose more weight or not and then you can tailor his feed and exercise accordingly.

Horses are designed to eat little and often so he needs enough hay that he's not standing for hours on end with nothing to eat. My two eat probably 3/4 slice of hay each (from a small rectangular bale, will try to remember to weigh it to give you an idea) overnight, fed at 7pm, and in the morning there's usually a handful of scraps left on the floor. If every last scrap is gone then they get a couple more handfuls of hay that night because I personally don't like them standing for more than an hour or so with no access to fibre. I feed it from a mini size haybag (I don't like haynets) which means they eat it slower than when it's loose on the floor, and because it's soaked for 12 hours I don't have to worry too much about the calories they're consuming. If/when they're in during the day then they get enough soaked hay to last until it's topped up again.
Feed-wise, my two currently get a TINY amount twice a day, mostly so they don't feel left out when the rest of the yard gets fed! My mare has allergies and the only thing I can feed her is grass nuts, so she has 1/2 a handful of those at night to soak up an echinacea supplement, in the mornings she gets literally about 6 nuts! My yearling gelding gets maybe a quarter of a handful -literally a sprinkle - of a fibre based feed twice a day just so he has something to keep him quiet when the others are fed. They don't need any more than grass and hay, for the most part these minis can live off next to nothing!

If I was showing my mare then she'd be doing longer walks with much more trotting involved, hillwork, some light lunging, some polework (only ground/trotting poles as still young), likewise if I was showing my gelding he'd be out walking several times a week to keep him trim, and I'd be playing with different feeds. Maybe next year I'll actually get out :rolleyes: that'll be the third year of trying!

Yours may not need his hay soaking, or his feed increasing. It all depends on his current weight. If he needs to lose weight then you can increase the exercise but not the calorie intake, if he needs to lose lots of weight then increase exercise and reduce calorie intake, if he's spot on but just needs muscle then increase exercise and feed, if he's underweight then increase feed and don't over do the exercise, in simple terms. 'Tis all a balancing act!

Ditto about spotty foal - gorgeous! And the bay & white in that pic is VERY similarly marked to my gelding :D
 
Popstrop Thanks for the advice. I don't think he is fat any more but he has a bloated belly. I am having a worm count taken next week. He eats about the same as yours but just a bit less hay which I have increased now he is working. We went for a lovely walk today and he loved it. He trotted for 30 mins and i had to practically run to keep up with him. He then went out in the field from 10.00 - 13.30 where he covered several times one of my mares.( he will have sweet dreams tonight after all that fun):)
We have about 20 horses in our yard plus liveries and I have no problems with the "proper horses" which are all SJ's, I just need to learn more about mini's. My little man is soooo cute and such a good little boy that I would hate for him to suffer in any way.
He is only 69cm and is smaller than my dog.
Thanks again.:)
 
The exercise will help reduce his belly a bit and tone his stomach muscles, and the worm count is a very good idea, as is the weighbridge so he can be dosed accurately if he needs worming :) He really is weeny!
Just a note specific to minis about wormers, if you don't know already, is to be very careful using moxidectin as it has a very small margin of error for dose rates and has been known to cause fatalities. Some people use it for years and years with no problem, but just be very careful if you do!
Sounds like you're on the right road. Best of luck :)
 
Oops meant bloated!! Inky always has a bloated belly after winter becasue he isnt getting any feed. I used to think this was because he was fat. I was told to INCREASE his food, not reduce it as it wasnt fat but lack of protein. So i did and Once i start to feed and exercise him it went :)
 
Eagle will not eat soaked hay. I have been trying for a few days now and he still will not touch it. I am a bit worried now as he isn't getting much else. Should I go back to dry hay or will he eventually eat it when he is really hungry???
 
The exercise will help reduce his belly a bit and tone his stomach muscles, and the worm count is a very good idea, as is the weighbridge so he can be dosed accurately if he needs worming :) He really is weeny!
Just a note specific to minis about wormers, if you don't know already, is to be very careful using moxidectin as it has a very small margin of error for dose rates and has been known to cause fatalities. Some people use it for years and years with no problem, but just be very careful if you do!
Sounds like you're on the right road. Best of luck :)

Which wormers contain Moxidectin and what worms is aimed at?
Thanks
 
If he doesn't need to lose weight then forget the soaking and just give him dry. Moxidectin is in Equest wormers, don't think there's any specific worms that need moxidectin to kill them, it's just one choice of drug for worming, so if you rotate yearly just use something else.
 
Had the blood tests back today and it seems his monocyte is very high:confused: Does anyone know what this means? Even my vet was confused, he said he will research and let me know tomorrow.
 
I have just received the email with Eagle's blood tests and I am not sure what it all means. I am waiting for my vet to let me know. Anyone got any ideas??

Lactate dehydrogenase is 1532 should be between 75-700
creatinine is 0,90 should be between 1,00-2,30
Albumin globulin is 7,70 should be between 4,70- 6,70
CPK is 562 should be between 50-250
WBC is 4,04 should be between 5,40- 14,30
lymphocytes is 0,65 should be between 1,50- 7,70

Thanks
 
Yes, He has no idea what is wrong so we are going to treat the symptoms.
This morning he was really lethargic. I posted in Veterinary but got no replies.:(
 
Sorry to hear he's poorly, have read the thread in veterinary, does your vet not think it's some sort of tying up or EPSM/PPSM?
May be completely unrelated but please ask your vet if it could be hyperlipemia which occurs in minis and can be caused by increased energy demands/stress/decreased food intake.
 
O.k Thanks, I will text my vet now and ask. What is weird is that he was off colour before I started working him so I don't think it is due to the work he did in one week but I am willing to try anything as it breaks my heart to see him so rough.
thanks again for your time.:)
 
Thanks stinkbomb, I will try.
He is not doing too well, he is quiet and seems depressed. He wasn't at all interested in going out this morning and it seemed to hurt him when I brushed him as he flinched quite a bit. He is eating o.k and everything comes out regularly but he is just so not himself. I am so worried.:(
 
Eagle seems much happier this morning, he was very keen to get out in the field and took off in a canter to say hello to his babies. Fingers crossed. I will see how he is this afternoon when I go to put him in.
 
Bad news, Eagle seems to be getting worse. He has grown a really woolly (sp) coat even with a rug on which is strange as he doesn't usually get cold and woolly until late January. He was really slow going out to the field today and is just standing by the gate munching slowly his hay. I am so worried. The vet will come on Tuesday to take blood. If only I knew what was wrong with him. :confused:
 
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