Standardbreds, trotters, pacers?

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Is there such ting as a standardbread skewbald I own some but doing my research I don’t believe there is

I know of only one 1 definitely purebred (proven by DNA test) Swedish Standardbred with such colour, Macahan Loss. Became somewhat of a mini sensation in Swedish trotting when he was born in 2008.

I'm not sure, but I think they maybe concluded he might be the result of a colour gene mutation, but note, I'm not sure about that part. But as far as I know, he's still the only such coloured trotter in Sweden out of our around 60.000 Swedish Standardbreds.
 

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It’s impossible to get a pacer to canter and mind you I am not a traveler and have raced horses in the Ed’s and to be honest I am trying to chase there blood to see are they real or did something go wrong if so I would love to invent one but as far as I can go back there were registered in England in 1903 buy a horse called miss elegance

Even though Standardbreds in the UK are only/mainly? pacers, and pacers are in majority also in the USA, there's also several trotters in USA. I know that e.g. both Canada, and Australia also have trotters, and when you come to countries like France, and Sweden, our Standardbreds are mainly/almost only trotters.

Which could explain why some Standardbreds can canter, because Standardbred trotters are often able to canter. Although a lot of them obviously prefers to trot, and if they do canter, there's a big variation in the quality of their canter.
Hypothetically regardless if the horse in question have pacing and/or trotting heritage, if the horse in fact actually isn't purebred, I presume that increases the chance for them being able to canter.
 

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It's not impossible to get a pacer to canter if it isn't too old and set in its ways, it just isn't as easy as in a horse without pace. The ability to pace is genetic. If the horse has pace and trot in the field there are likely a whole range of gaits in there to play with though they may take a while to bring out. Why try to make a horse into something he isn't. **Come to the dark side** ?
 

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Even though Standardbreds in the UK are only/mainly? pacers, and pacers are in majority also in the USA, there's also several trotters in USA. I know that e.g. both Canada, and Australia also have trotters, and when you come to countries like France, and Sweden, our Standardbreds are mainly/almost only trotters.

Which could explain why some Standardbreds can canter, because Standardbred trotters are often able to canter. Although a lot of them obviously prefers to trot, and if they do canter, there's a big variation in the quality of their canter.
Hypothetically regardless if the horse in question have pacing and/or trotting heritage, if the horse in fact actually isn't purebred, I presume that increases the chance for them being able to canter.

My half Standie's mother is a square trotter Swedish bred import, FL, so we do race square trotters in this country.
 

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My half Standie's mother is a square trotter Swedish bred import, FL, so we do race square trotters in this country.

Nice to know :) On the rare occasions I come across something about British harness racing, it feels as if it ends up being about pacers, so that coloured my reply.

Interesting to hear people call them square trotters, I can't recall I've heard them referred to that before. Over here they're just Trotters.
 

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We have 2 standies here. Both older. The mare has incredible gaits, the most forward walk, a smooth trot and a very smooth canter. She prefers to canter, not trot, and does a great walk to canter. She doesn't pace. The gelding does not canter. He trots, and when you ask him to canter/go faster he starts pacing. He keeps up with cantering and galloping horses whilst doing it.
Both horses are lovely, calm, non spooky and great to ride out on the trails.
 

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Interested. In the smooth trot of your horse. When you listen to it on the road is it exactly two time?
When I ride my pony he has a smooth trot which when you listen has a fraction of a second between the placement of front and back hooves that you wouldn't notice if you weren't looking for it. He can also change from that into a bouncy normal two time trot by a slight change in the way he is carrying himself.
He also does a true pace, a stepping pace, walk and two distinctive four time faster gaits, one a rack/tolt type and one I've not come across before which is mid speed , smooth but you can really feel hind legs pushing though, always exact four time and he uses it to go uphill. He also has a pretty normal three time canter , easiest from walk and a variety of other canter mix things thrown in just to confuse me ???
 

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I know of only one 1 definitely purebred (proven by DNA test) Swedish Standardbred with such colour, Macahan Loss. Became somewhat of a mini sensation in Swedish trotting when he was born in 2008.

I'm not sure, but I think they maybe concluded he might be the result of a colour gene mutation, but note, I'm not sure about that part. But as far as I know, he's still the only such coloured trotter in Sweden out of our around 60.000 Swedish Standardbreds.
I have sent a skewbald standardbread to Australia to race so we how he gets on
 
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