Steady SJers

He he.. the bucker is fun; he's a bit crap at it!
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If I haven't broken PF yet, I doubt you could! She may be little but she's a tough little thing
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Ooooh! Hang on! Have just remembered a really EVIL bucker!! He buried me not so long ago
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Ah ha, i own one of those, and after Geeing it up it threw the towel in.
He much prefers coming down to a fence quiet and collected - im not so sure, i like a horse taking me into a fence, but hassle him and he wont do it.
So ive either had to live with it or sell it.

Well i know it can jump round a NC course, so ive had to live with it.

TBH although its hard work, everything comes to you slower and you get to actually ride those corners etc instead of landing and getting pissed off with and losing the shoulders blah blah blah.....
Snoop is the opposite and likes to go a lightening speed.... but we then have poles because of it, 9 times out of 10 with winstons styles we keep the fences up and go clear.

So in your case, the latter is the most important, so Id just live with it and just work on getting her more responsive off the leg.
 
*raises hand* I have one of those! When approaching a fence at walking speed the thought going through your head is 'he is never going to make it, o god I'll go sailing over by myself' and then he just launches himself into the air! Is exactly the same XC. I just sit back and hope for the best, he has enough spring to get over 4ft from a stand still, and it makes a nice change having time to think about what you are doing, rather than the whole thing going by in a blur like with my pony! I'm hoping a bit more speed will come as he matures *fingers crossed*
 
My top mare jumps like she is a coiled spring and really gives me that ping feeling over a fence !!

but my new gelding just jumps as high as he needs to always clears it but i end up half way up his neck !!!

I think all horses are different and as long as there is no struggle there then we just have to learn to live with it ?
 
Well interesting, but seems many people feel the need to 'attack' a fence, rather than keep in a good rythm. From my understanding, if you keep attacking each fence it doesn't make for a pretty round and you are more likely to make a mistake.

My two are so laid back they are horizontal, but have learnt to stop trying to launch myself half way up their necks. Ok so neither are going to realistically compete higher than 1.25m, but not sure I'd want to!
 
Bloss was like that (shes not jumping anymore due to pregnancy tho) - she can happily jump round 3'9 but i always felt like there was never enough behind me to sort us out if we had a major problem.

When i had lessons with Sam (Griffith) he used to get me to halt at the bottom end of the arena and then do everything i could to get her to go straight into a gallop to the other end. We did a lot of this before starting jumping to get her more excited. It did work aswell
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I could never feed her anything too much as she would just start bucking when i rode her and rearing out hacking when she got over excited.

luckily i dont have this problem with Archie as he seems to have the ability to sort himself out and the power to get over anything when jumping
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Having a horse take you to fence isn't the same as attacking a fence or firing at fences. A horse can still take you to a fence and maintain a good rhythm.
 
I have a steady showjumper! He can be buzzed up quite easily though, but he is happy to wait in front of a fence until I tell him otherwise. Also he didn't really start to feel like he had any oomph until I started jumping Newcomers and above. Anything below that just didn't require too much energy.

Have you tried transitions within the canter - asking her to move on and then trying to keep the energy within a shorter canter?

The most important thing is her rhythm. It may seem like she's not taking you, but as long as you've got enough impulsion to do the job does it matter? As long as she is responsive enough to adjust if you have to. If she's popping 1.40 then I don't think you need worry too much!
 
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Go see Matthew Lanni, he geared my mare up for SJ when she could be a steady type, But she is super to ride now.

Honestly, go stay with him a week....

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Might just have to do that - can you PM me his details, again
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So in your case, the latter is the most important, so Id just live with it and just work on getting her more responsive off the leg.

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Absolutely know this is what we have to work on, must stop riding sans spurs too
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My top mare jumps like she is a coiled spring and really gives me that ping feeling over a fence !!

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THATS WHAT I WANT!!!!!!!!! Will keep banging on and trying to create it!
 
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Well interesting, but seems many people feel the need to 'attack' a fence, rather than keep in a good rythm. From my understanding, if you keep attacking each fence it doesn't make for a pretty round and you are more likely to make a mistake.

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Didn't really word myself very well, I mean the horse saying "bring it on" and taking me there, not me or it rushing and flapping
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My two are so laid back they are horizontal

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See having seen Peer jump, I think he looks like a ball of energy!

Might have to come over and we can chivvy them all up
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They are all so different aren't they? The two I jump (mine and my OH's) are total opposites, my lad used to gallop at a fence, ears flat back, like a lunatic....we have sorted that out now but he does still take you to a fence with plenty of enthusiasm!! But he has a wicked last minute sliding stop, so still needs plenty of leg!
OH's mare is the opposite....chilled and maintains a steady canter. In fact if you try to do too much in front of a fence she gets all upset!
So difficult to ride them one after the other, as with the boy you have to check him right up to about 3 or 4 strides out, then push him over it, then check him almost as soon as you land or he'll p*ss off accross the arena with you!! With the girlie, you have to just totally pretend the fence isn't there and just let her get on with it, sounds easy but it really isn't when you are used to riding my lad!!
Having said that she actually has much more scope than him (being 6 inches taller at the wither helps to be fair!)

Guess they are like people though, everyone deals with things differently!
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Have you tried transitions within the canter - asking her to move on and then trying to keep the energy within a shorter canter?


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Yes we do lots of work within canter, shortening, lengthening, keeping her going when she wants to drop behind the leg - will keep at it!
 
I've had a few very laid back SJers. Super_kat is probably goinig to laugh at this but i always found Olympic very laid back about jumping. He was always a lot more forward after we had been XCing. The advantage is though that you will always beat a fizzy type horse in a JO.

Like everyone else has said you need her to get off your leg. If she isn't struggling with the height I wouldn't worry too much.
 
to be honest i dont think you can create it its just the natural way that a horse jumps !!! i do find my mare waste's more time in the air than my gelding though as she pings it so much !!!

if you watch horses by heartbreaker they nearly all have that ping to them !!! its not always good though !!
 
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See having seen Peer jump, I think he looks like a ball of energy!

Might have to come over and we can chivvy them all up
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Blimey never feels that forward going and I puff like a 40 a day smoker after a round! (although getting my head drilled on the 15 June so my breathing may improve!)

P moved quickly when she saw those billboards at Summerhouse, so clearly can move when she wants to!!!
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My new girlie is pretty lazy on the flat but wakes up when the jumps come out
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she doesn't tow my into fences like I'm used to, but she gives you a feel of commitment that she'll do it, so it's not unnerving. But I know what you mean, I'm so used to being dragged into fences, so it's strange to have to kick!
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Does anyone else have one? Seriously, I am at a loss
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I know I shouldn't complain about having a sane horse, but I find it really hard to put my trust in a horse that does not, for want of a description, take me into a fence. She will happily pop 1.40m, she takes on everything I ask of her, but there is a serious lack of feel of oooomph on my part.

Any ideas what I can do? Or do I just learn to accept she is never going to be a pinging ball?

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Mo (the bay in my sig) is exactly like that - plods at them like a donkey, then just pops them like they're nothing. I panic every time that she's just gonna stop because she's not going at them enough. Every other horse i've jumped has thrown its head up and flown at the jump as soon as it's seen it. She just can't be bothered exerting herself any more than she has to!! Lazy moose!
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My new girl really wakes up when she see's the jumps come out, but all she's really ever done is jump. She's foward going into the jumps but not at all strong and really gives you a feeling of "lets go, I want to jump this for you". Fab feeling, espcially as I am used to the "Oh look a jump! Lets go full speed! Oh wait, no, I think this jump is a little too scary for my liking" and having to really kick feeling.
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Told you he doesn't like me
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(I did buy him a baby pink headcollar a the weekend so I don't blame him really) As soon as he's in the arena he takes everything at J/O speed or xc style...........I think he likes showing me up
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I think you have got an electric bum.... I just seem to send everything to sleep. I'm sure he looks lovely in hos pink headcollar, I did buy him a pink waterbucket and haynet.

When he was more forward in his jumping it was when he was feeling very ye ha and I usually hadn't ridden him all week.
 
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