Step away from the Clwyd page!

Unfortunately alot of the responses on there are very similar to someone I spoke to a few years ago, who basically in short said, it was his human right to have a dog, so therefore the vet bills should be paid for by the government! How do you argue with logic like that???!!!!
 
In all seriousness, it's not Clwyds page is it, he has no internet, none of this has been instigated by him, more Michelle and Debbie, and the only one who is really going to benefit is Michelle as far as i can see, Clwyd could actually be totally unaware of all the furore!!
 
I haven't looked at it, and probably won't. I can't stand facebook, and only have a page to see what son no.1 is up to in Oz. It's the spelling/grammar etc that irks me, so looking at a page like Clwyds would probably give me a seizure. M
 
It's a shame that this could be used as excellent publicity to highlight the problems faced by people who hoard animals (and hoarders in general) which could result in them having them more help as I do believe it's a nasty mental condition that can have severe implications/results. Sadly it seems to have turned for the most part into a 'people vs RSPCA' :(
 
Patterdale said:
Yes!

'Support for those who don't mistreat their horses, and only keep manageable numbers'

Our aim is to raise enough in donations for a massive piss up to reward ourselves for living sensibly and within our means. Ie, not collecting a massive herd of horses and then appealing for public donations so we can keep them.

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Like!
 
you know tho, its quite an interesting study in human psychology this,

everyone is literally turning themselves inside out to disproof those pictures being circulated are Clywd's on the 'Support Clywd FB page'
This is despite the RSCPA prosecuting him on 18 charges of animal neglect so there is evidence and a good chance they in fact could be yet every argument is being trotted out to defend him.
this is from self confessed horse lovers dont forget

and why are they so keen to think this man a welsh horse saint could do no wrong?
because they've seen a snapshot of who he is on tv thats why. They've decided they like him and that he's a lovable saintly rogue. They've created a horsey Grizzly Adams fantasy figure , a hard done by figure at war with authority through no fault of his own.
A tear jerking hard luck story with horses thrown in, what more could Disney ask for?!

They've taken him in as one of their own and because they THINK they know him they wont have a bad word said about him.
Even if these horses are proved to be Clywd's they'll all jump hurdles to justify it and brush it under the carpet until in their minds it doesnt matter anymore. - as some on there have already said 'oh but, that was sooo long ago..'

Now, if they'd read about someone in the paper up on these charges, someone they hadnt 'met' and decided they liked and who they thought they knew and these pictures were released claiming to be his, why then they'd want to believe them without any evidence needed. They'd hang, draw and quarter them without trial and a fb page would set up demanding justice for the horses!


just goes to show, the media is pretty powerful stuff and in some cases, love really is blind.
 
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We have all seen recently how being a "Celebrity" and a "Saint" can skew peoples perceptions off a person. Those few voices that aired a contrary opinion were ignored.
 
lula said:
you know tho, its quite an interesting study in human psychology this,

everyone is literally turning themselves inside out to disproof those pictures being circulated are Clywd's on the 'Support Clywd FB page'
This is despite the RSCPA prosecuting him on 18 charges of animal neglect so there is evidence and a good chance they in fact could be yet every argument is being trotted out to defend him.
this is from self confessed horse lovers dont forget

and why are they so keen to think this man a welsh horse saint could do no wrong?
because they've seen a snapshot of who he is on tv thats why. They've decided they like him and that he's a lovable saintly rogue. They've created a horsey Grizzly Adams fantasy figure , a hard done by figure at war with authority through no fault of his own.
A tear jerking hard luck story with horses thrown in, what more could Disney ask for?!

They've taken him in as one of their own and because they THINK they know him they wont have a bad word said about him.
Even if these horses are proved to be Clywd's they'll all jump hurdles to justify it and brush it under the carpet until in their minds it doesnt matter anymore. - as some on there have already said 'oh but, that was sooo long ago..'

Now, if they'd read about someone in the paper up on these charges, someone they hadnt 'met' and decided they liked and who they thought they knew and these pictures were released claiming to be his, why then they'd want to believe them without any evidence needed. They'd hang, draw and quarter them without trial and a fb page would set up demanding justice for the horses!


just goes to show, the media is pretty powerful stuff and in some cases, love really is blind.
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wise words. :)
 
Patterdale said:
Alas no, your sleuthing is below par tonight smokey! :D
I am there though, but if you guess then PM me, I've been too scathing of my inlaws to be outed :D
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:D:D I don't know if I can go back on now, I won't be able to post, and the frustration may cause my head to implode! I may have to accept that I will never know.......:rolleyes:
 
Just looked at the page and I have 7 morons, I mean friends :rolleyes: liking it!

Haven't commented yet but if I keep reading it I'll probably end up banned too!
 
Patterdale said:
Yes!

'Support for those who don't mistreat their horses, and only keep manageable numbers'

Our aim is to raise enough in donations for a massive piss up to reward ourselves for living sensibly and within our means. Ie, not collecting a massive herd of horses and then appealing for public donations so we can keep them.

:D
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PMSL! That has got to be one of the best posts I've seen on HHO ever! :D
 
Oh dear god. I KNEW I shouldn't have looked.

I know who Debbie de St Croix is. She had her own 'rescue' in Devon, complete with uncut colts breeding mares and unhandled horses. Last year all her horses were rescued by Hillside...

If anyone wants to know more then just ask!
 
Ladyinred said:
Oh dear god. I KNEW I shouldn't have looked.

I know who Debbie de St Croix is. She had her own 'rescue' in Devon, complete with uncut colts breeding mares and unhandled horses. Last year all her horses were rescued by Hillside...

If anyone wants to know more then just ask!
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire, back into the frying pan! :eek:
 
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