Step away from the Clwyd page!

Lady La La said:
Yeah, but you also described him as a man who knows about horses - whereas Michelle, his spokesperson, seems to think he doesn't even know about basic worming. Something that hasn't changed over time.
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I imagine he did once know about worming, what with breeding horses that won prizes! I think we all know the wormy look has never been in vogue in the show ring... far from it!!!

Not saying Michelle is wrong... but that part of things just doesn't seem to add up!
 
IB I applaud you if you are who I think you are! Great post, made her squirm a bit didn't it! If the paper were inaccurate in reporting why doesn't she give the correct version of events? I'd ask this myself but I'm blocked ;)
Also, I would 'like' your link but can't :)
Hoping you are who I think otherwise I sound as nutty as Cruella De Ville herself ;)
 
Sherry90 with you on that comment. I cant like the postd you are refering to as Im blocked also. Would also like to know the answer to the question you raised.
 
i am JW;) if that's who you think i am :) if she had nothing to hide it was a rather large over reaction on her part! She'll post lots of heart wrenching posts now of her 'babies' :rolleyes: mind you i might suggest that people donate to Hillside instead of Clwyd, they have lots of extra animals to fund thanks to her!!

aww i've been evicted lol
 
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Ibblebibble said:
i am JW;) if that's who you think i am :) if she had nothing to hide it was a rather large over reaction on her part! She'll post lots of heart wrenching posts now of her 'babies' :rolleyes: mind you i might suggest that people donate to Hillside instead of Clwyd, they have lots of extra animals to fund thanks to her!!
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If it was you who posted the newspaper link it appears to of vanished:confused: i swear she said she wouldn't delete it:confused: but you will be happy to know there is a video of her babies.
 
Argh how irritating, why are they shying away from the important points?!
IB perhaps post it on the 'truth about Clwyd' page. That seems to be the place the non-sheeple are going too ;) and they won't delete your comments. However, she has also posted on there too so be prepared for more ramblings of hers!
Good on you for posting it in the first place though :)
 
sherry90 said:
Argh how irritating, why are they shying away from the important points?!
IB perhaps post it on the 'truth about Clwyd' page. That seems to be the place the non-sheeple are going too ;) and they won't delete your comments. However, she has also posted on there too so be prepared for more ramblings of hers!
Good on you for posting it in the first place though :)
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^This^ :D
 
I saw IB's post on there and read Debbie's replies. She may not want her past brought up but when parts of your life have been in the papers and on the internet you can't hide from it... and nor should you, if you are admin of a page asking people for money etc. People have every right to Google your name and check who you are and what you have done previously.

I would like to think that if Michelle/Debbie/& co were ever to apply for charitable status, the Charities Commission would go through any prospective trustees etc with a fine-tooth comb. (I actually know nothing about what the CC do when one applies to be a charity, but I am hoping they would be thorough.) So no one involved with that page should be surprised when members of the public do the same.
 
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After googling her I posted on her latest 'look how wonderful I am and what I did for horses' post. I put one word.... Deluded.

Instant ban :)
 
Moomin1 said:
Exactly! The man was a prolific breeder for years, I am pretty sure he will have a clue about worming. But in any case, it matters not, he has been found guilty of causing unnecessary suffering. There is no excuse for that.
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And again Moomin, I find myself agreeing with you :eek::eek::eek::D
Personally I think this post just about sums the whole thing up..??? :(
 
Red30563 said:
I saw IB's post on there and read Debbie's replies. She may not want her past brought up but when parts of your life have been in the papers and on the internet you can't hide from it... and nor should you, if you are admin of a page asking people for money etc. People have every right to Google your name and check who you are and what you have done previously.

I would like to think that if Michelle/Debbie/& co were applying for charitable status, the Charities Commission would go through any prospective trustees etc with a fine-tooth comb. (I actually know nothing about what the CC do when one applies to be a charity, but I am hoping they would be thorough.) So no one involved with that page should be surprised when MOTP do the same.
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Well said. Everything is in the public domain. I for one am extremely worried that people are donating money etc to an organisation that has not got charitable status and has at least one(?) trustee with a dubious history.

I just cannot believe that people are wearing 'rose tinted glasses' and fail to see that Clwyd is -
squatting
has/is neglecting his animals
has chosen to live an alternative life style

I mean will the 'help' be there/still needed this time next year?

I just can't see the man changing - he is a hoarder.

My elder sister is an animal hoarder (cats) and I know that we have to keep an eye on her all the time. It can be heartbreaking at times and I know she has a illness. Hoarders don't change! :(
 
I'm most surprised I'm still there :) After my last post I may not be for much longer though :rolleyes:

I agree the RSPCA shouldn't go after the innocent like Clwyd! They should go after the people who have so many animals they can't give them even basic health care, whose animals are infested with parasites so badly it affects their long term health and in some cases die and are left to rot, who despite attempts to help them continue to breed and inter breed causing untold invisible problems....Oh wait....
 
ah that was you Spiritedly I smiled at that and liked it! I'd stepped away but actually given in and commented now that's what happens when bored in hotel room!

As for Debbie and QOL I think hillside were amazing and deserve support, Wendy started redwings too I believe so worthy cause. I do feel a little for Debbie in sense of having such a passion, wanting to help and losing it all that would break you but what I never get is why they don't help themselves like not rehoming, it's a nice ideal but it's never going to work. I think she is no different to many others out there who mean well and do truly love the animals but are totally unrealistic as to the practicalties and the realism of it all.
 
I wouldn't be so sure on Hillside either.

I remember quite a concerning thread on here some time back, didn't shed very good light.:(
 
I feel like I'm failing you guys as I'm not banned loving your posts tho. Wasn't hill side the one who supposedly acquired animals destined for slaughter without permission or am i thinking of another. Ps if you want anything posted let me know.
 
There's a pic of a car, laden with goodies, and Michelle has commented saying how happy C was and it was all captured by the film crew- there must be a sequal coming our way! (puts head in hands)
 
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