Step away from the Clwyd page!

guesstimation said:
Really, that surprises me I always think them as one of the good ones!
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The thread was along the lines of 'stolen' animals, farm animals being transported illegally without proper documentation, a grey squirrel that was severly injured that they released back into the wild, and an Egyptian goose which they released back into the wild. (Both illegal to release in the UK)
 
They have cleverly worded (maybe reworded?) the description of the group on Facebook where it mentions the 'registered company' number not a charity number so I believe they aren't setting it up as a charity as such.
 
Oooooh......awkward! :rolleyes:

You know, the more I read that page, the more sad it makes me.
That Debbie's obviously a bit.....different? Misguided? But it seems that all these people actually and truly believe that they are helping. I feel a bit sorry for them.

This is turning into such a weird affair. I don't know how it'll all end, but I think there'll be far more revelations to come.
 
sherry90 said:
They have cleverly worded (maybe reworded?) the description of the group on Facebook where it mentions the 'registered company' number not a charity number so I believe they aren't setting it up as a charity as such.
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So in other words they are registered as a business, in which case she is a dealer then.
 
Hmm the plot thickens ;)
I agree with Guesstimation when they said that maybe Debbie has the right idea in the rescuing and rehoming but Debbie is deluded in the way this is going to be done. She is also blinkered to the difficulties and as such has used this show to 'blow her own trumpet'. As this has backfired and ibblebibble quite rightly pointed out the other side of the coin and would thus rock the 'cults' boat, she replied via a nasty pm to IB! Very respectable for a rescue centre patron huh?!
I am just concerned at the emphasis they are placing upon TV programmes and filming. I agree exposure to neglected horses is good but if it another edited shambles we will be in a worse state than we are now with the bleeting sheeple sending log fires and clothes to a man who has taken it upo himself to live in squallor. It's the horses we need to help, and sadly there are not just these with Clwyd that need our help :(
 
sherry90 said:
I am just concerned at the emphasis they are placing upon TV programmes and filming. I agree exposure to neglected horses is good but if it another edited shambles we will be in a worse state than we are now with the bleeting sheeple sending log fires and clothes to a man who has taken it upo himself to live in squallor. It's the horses we need to help, and sadly there are not just these with Clwyd that need our help :(
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I don't think it will be anything but- not only will ch4 not want to have egg on their face, by admitting they might have got it wrong fist, but Clwyd and Co are not likely to give permission to film for a 2nd time unless it shows them in a positive light. Where will it end?! Even if the RSPCA publically admitted the pics were f C's horses, the do-goders will still say that it was in the past, the point now is to concentrate on his current horses :rolleyes::mad::confused:
 
He appears to now have a new wardrobe of clothes which have been donated to him.

The comments on that site are almost unbearable to read! What is wrong with people?! They are all saying what a lovely kind man he is and how they would like him to be their friend, and that he put his horses before himself! :eek:
 
Moomin1 said:
He appears to now have a new wardrobe of clothes which have been donated to him.

The comments on that site are almost unbearable to read! What is wrong with people?! They are all saying what a lovely kind man he is and how they would like him to be their friend, and that he put his horses before himself! :eek:
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One even said if they met C they'd hug him- I'm sorry, but, ew! :rolleyes: Somebody mentioned donating a caravan! :eek: It's crazy! :cool:
 
Moomin1 said:
He appears to now have a new wardrobe of clothes which have been donated to him.

The comments on that site are almost unbearable to read! What is wrong with people?! They are all saying what a lovely kind man he is and how they would like him to be their friend, and that he put his horses before himself! :eek:
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It's sickening, these people are so deluded, and yet if anyone dares to question their wisdom, or the motives of the site, they attack and make riddiculous statements to justify themselves. Scary to think they actually believe the cr*p they're spouting :mad:
 
I am tearing my hair out that people can say what sort of person he is having never met him! How do they know he's not rubbing his hands together saying suckers!

If he gets a ban in April I wonder how they'd slant a second programme, he'll probably be in a mansion with stables, horsewalker and gallops by then!
 
guesstimation said:
I am tearing my hair out that people can say what sort of person he is having never met him! How do they know he's not rubbing his hands together saying suckers!

If he gets a ban in April I wonder how they'd slant a second programme, he'll probably be in a mansion with stables, horsewalker and gallops by then!
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PMSL! Probably! I can imagine a major protest outside the magistrates court with all the little followers carrying banners and chaining themselves to railings! :eek:
 
Somebody's posted on there the IHDG statement about the black horse having projectile scouring and severe worm burden and overgrown feet, and yet the STILL don't seem to make any comment about it. They are deluded. Must be.
 
Moomin1 said:
Somebody's posted on there the IHDG statement about the black horse having projectile scouring and severe worm burden and overgrown feet, and yet the STILL don't seem to make any comment about it. They are deluded. Must be.
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I bet some of its embarrassment- like they've committed to team clwyd, given money and now dont want to believe that they may have tbeen duped :mad:
 
That was me, was making a point about rspca training but thought i'd include the whole thing, I see someone has posted a link to the real truth page again too between other comments on recent photo of him!
 
Yeah I think a lot will be wanting to save face if all the bad stuff turns out to be true. I have a lot of respect for people who were duped initially but have taken a step back and gone hang on a minute but to keep going now at least wait until the full facts are out and official

what upset me a bit was someone in Yorkshire wants to donate stuff from.them and others, a very kind gesture but they must have worthy causes in Yorkshire too needing that help who haven't got the controversy around them. Also see full details with company number put on there. It's just worrying.
 
guesstimation said:
Yeah I think a lot will be wanting to save face if all the bad stuff turns out to be true. I have a lot of respect for people who were duped initially but have taken a step back and gone hang on a minute but to keep going now at least wait until the full facts are out and official

what upset me a bit was someone in Yorkshire wants to donate stuff from.them and others, a very kind gesture but they must have worthy causes in Yorkshire too needing that help who haven't got the controversy around them. Also see full details with company number put on there. It's just worrying.
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Annoys me that there are so many genuine and worthwhile horse charities who are not getting one tenth of what he is. If people wnt to donate, that's brilliant, but donate to a verified cause and not some dodgy old geezer who was the subject of a rather biased docu-drama on the telly!
 
Ladyinred said:
Annoys me that there are so many genuine and worthwhile horse charities who are not getting one tenth of what he is. If people wnt to donate, that's brilliant, but donate to a verified cause and not some dodgy old geezer who was the subject of a rather biased docu-drama on the telly!
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That picture, in his new togs- well, for me, his face says it all :rolleyes:
 
horsesatemymoney said:
That picture, in his new togs- well, for me, his face says it all :rolleyes:
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He's better dressed than me now!

I better get down the charity shop! :eek::D

Seriously though, how anyone can have admiration for a man who has caused suffering to his horses is disgusting. Sympathy for his background circumstances, maybe, but not admiration, which is what those on that site appear to have.

To be quite honest, I find it difficult to sympathise with anybody who has caused animals to suffer, certainly ones who have chosen that lifestyle, and also then revel in the handouts and media attention they get from the suffering which they caused. I also think that the sheer lack of care he displayed when that foal was found dead sums it up really..his only initial comments where 'what if the RSPCA find this?'. So really, all he was arsed about was getting caught. :mad:

OMFG, just seen that Michelle has now told everyone when Clwyd's birthday is! She's bloody hinting at people donating presents for his soddin birthday!! Unbelievable. He will be getting ten billion birthday cakes sent to him now.
 
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