Step away from the Clwyd page!

I was banned a few days ago too. Managed to persuade Michelle to be my 'friend' through a sickly but persuasive PM ;) but she then deleted my after a second PM which questioned the reason for his conviction! Boo hoo!

I believe he may get a ban, let's hope the farce documentary won't hinder the sentencing but I would imagine it wont and the judge will rule on pure fact put before him at the trial. I hope it's a ban but I agree, it may be that he goes to live with Michelle and 'helps' with her yard and they live happily ever after...hmm!
I just keep shaking my head in dismay at the whole situation!
 
Just a legal musing...can a for-profit or a not-for-profit business ask for donations? Cheques paid to M's farm will go to the Horse owners business whereas PayPal donations will go to the JCF charity. There is obviously a difference there for tax purposes firstly but also for company and business purposes?
 
FionaM12 said:
I was banned a few days ago. I never ticked the "Like" because I'd sussed I could post without doing so.

I have another Fb identity: I've now been banned on that one too. Nothing I said on either could possibly be called offensive. Questioning, yes, and stating facts (such as reminding people he has been found guilty of cruelty) but hardly offensive.
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Such naughtiness!

The deb sure does have a temper!
 
My posts still survive but I've tried to not be too controversial but still make a point.

I just hope all this doesn't cause issues for the case, at least it has been heard and its just the sentencing.

I want to hear from rspca on.it which I imagine will be after sentence but also channel 4 or whoever has been up their filming him receiving his nee clothes, why and what are they filming? You never know it could be a "how to dupe people into giving you freebies and supporting your horses". Would like to know what slant they are taking on all this
 
sherry90 said:
Just a legal musing...can a for-profit or a not-for-profit business ask for donations? Cheques paid to M's farm will go to the Horse owners business whereas PayPal donations will go to the JCF charity. There is obviously a difference there for tax purposes firstly but also for company and business purposes?
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I've been wondering about this too. Her co. is Ltd by guarantee which is okay for a charity. I think charitable donations have to be called gifts and they're taxed. As for what goes through the jc foundation, I'm not sure how that will work.
 
sherry90 said:
I was banned a few days ago too. Managed to persuade Michelle to be my 'friend' through a sickly but persuasive PM ;) but she then deleted my after a second PM which questioned the reason for his conviction! Boo hoo!

I believe he may get a ban, let's hope the farce documentary won't hinder the sentencing but I would imagine it wont and the judge will rule on pure fact put before him at the trial. I hope it's a ban but I agree, it may be that he goes to live with Michelle and 'helps' with her yard and they live happily ever after...hmm!
I just keep shaking my head in dismay at the whole situation!
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The beauty of the Animal Welfare Act sherry90 is that anybody who recieves and all encompassing ban on animals or a specific animal cannot have ANY involvement with the care or responsibility of those animals. So he wouldn't be able to even lead one on a rope. That is of course, on the basis that he gets caught doing so.

It used to be that if somebody had a ban then they could still have some involvement with animals, provided they were under supervision.
 
Moomin1 said:
PMSL! Probably! I can imagine a major protest outside the magistrates court with all the little followers carrying banners and chaining themselves to railings! :eek:
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heh

i actually dont think that might be a joke, i could well see that happening :D:rolleyes:
 
FionaM12 said:
I was banned a few days ago. I never ticked the "Like" because I'd sussed I could post without doing so.
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yes, i never 'liked' before bannage either.

i couldn't bear to have to actually 'like' it to see if by some chance that would allow me to post again as id be too embarrassed my friends might think im one of the hysterical, patronising post menopausal women that want to take Clywd home to live in their garden shed that the group is full of.
 
lula said:
yes, i never 'liked' before bannage either.

i couldn't bear to have to actually 'like' it to see if by some chance that would allow me to post again as id be too embarrassed my friends might think im one of the hysterical, patronising post menopausal women that want to take Clywd home to live in their garden shed that the group is full of.
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:D:D I like the word "bannage". :D
 
Ah thanks Blurr and Moomin1!
So fingers crossed for the ban then for him!
I'm sure she will pay tax on the donations being a reputable company and all that...
 
wow, just looked at the page...there's nearly 8 and a half THOUSAND likes! It's quite concerning that so many people are openly surporting a man who, whether intentionally or not is abusing horses.

Also, I would like to add my support for the word 'bannage' :D
 
so a quick summary;)
Debbie whatserface had an animal sanctuary in Devon which failed due to lack of funds and over 200 animals had to be rescued from the rescuer.
She has got herself involved in raising money for Clwyd /michelle , the JCfoundation is taking payments for the horse and owner help centre, set up and run by michelle on the 28/11/2012 (convenient timing,!)
the JCF also collect for the Gesar foundation, ran by a fake monk , kelsang pawo, who by amazing coincidence knows Debbie whatserface and wanted to buy her failing sanctuary!! How cosy! I wonder how long Michelle and Debbie have really known eachother?! I also wonder if the JCF know who they are raising money for, a fake monk and a convicted animal abuser! you couldn't make it up could you, i might sell the film rights to hollywood:rolleyes:
 
I'd like to know why all these people are calling Clwyd a poor OLD man, he's 68 in this day and age that's not old! Prince Philip is 91, Sean Connery is 82, Monty Roberts is 77 none of them are classed as doddery old men who don't know what they're doing or understand that the world has changed!
We may not agree with all they say or do but at least their supporters don't try to justify their behaviour by saying 'it's because they're old' ;)
 
Ibblebibble said:
so a quick summary;)
Debbie whatserface had an animal sanctuary in Devon which failed due to lack of funds and over 200 animals had to be rescued from the rescuer.
She has got herself involved in raising money for Clwyd /michelle , the JCfoundation is taking payments for the horse and owner help centre, set up and run by michelle on the 28/11/2012 (convenient timing,!)
the JCF also collect for the Gesar foundation, ran by a fake monk , kelsang pawo, who by amazing coincidence knows Debbie whatserface and wanted to buy her failing sanctuary!! How cosy! I wonder how long Michelle and Debbie have really known eachother?! I also wonder if the JCF know who they are raising money for, a fake monk and a convicted animal abuser! you couldn't make it up could you, i might sell the film rights to hollywood:rolleyes:
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no no channel 4... what happened next.. :D
 
Barry the Monk doesn't have the same ring to it.....

Truth will out in the end....as me nan always said :D

Over 3000 likes and under £200 of donations..... that will not pay a years worth of wormers.......:rolleyes:
 
Ibblebibble said:
so a quick summary;)
Debbie whatserface had an animal sanctuary in Devon which failed due to lack of funds and over 200 animals had to be rescued from the rescuer.
She has got herself involved in raising money for Clwyd /michelle , the JCfoundation is taking payments for the horse and owner help centre, set up and run by michelle on the 28/11/2012 (convenient timing,!)
the JCF also collect for the Gesar foundation, ran by a fake monk , kelsang pawo, who by amazing coincidence knows Debbie whatserface and wanted to buy her failing sanctuary!! How cosy! I wonder how long Michelle and Debbie have really known eachother?! I also wonder if the JCF know who they are raising money for, a fake monk and a convicted animal abuser! you couldn't make it up could you, i might sell the film rights to hollywood:rolleyes:
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I think you will find that JCF is /are fully aware of what he/they are doing. Their association with Debbie and the monk goes back some years.
 
Amaranta said:
*resists the urge to ask who Barry the Monk is on the facebook page*

No NO NO I won't do it :o:eek:
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Barry the monk aka Pawo wanted to 'buy', borrow or whatever, the land that Debbie had in Devon. He wanted to build a 'native style village' Naturally Dartmoore Nat Parks commitee and the local council were never going to allow a series of shacks to be built in an area of outstanding beauty. But Debbie viewed Barry/Pawo as her personal saviour, he would raise all the money she needed to sit and play with her animals every day (we'' the ones she could get near enough to)

Barry then sort of withdrew after the land was repossessed by a naughty greedy bank and the animals were homes by Hillside. But Barry needed a paltform for his 'Foundation' so his next trick was to announce he would be buying Brighton Pier (all £25m of it!!) Obviously this didn't happen either and now, by some means ot yhe other he has become associated with the money raising effort for dear darling Clwyd...

Clear? No? Best I can do right now.

It's all nuts anyway.
 
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