Step away from the Clwyd page!

Blurr said:
The Horse and Owner Help Centre was not formerly known as anything, it was incorporated in November 2012, no previous names.



The mission statement etc will be of some interest I'm sure. I am happy to be corrected but I think if they get charitable status they will not be able to 'sell' horses as they have been doing. As for Michelle currently looking after 'rescues', well in my book if you take in (buy or are given) horses and then sell them on a regular basis, you're a dealer. And this dealer's business is being funded by the public. How clever is she???
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Very true
 
igglepop said:
I can ask if bans will be lifted.


ets I have asked no reply yet.
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They are still banning and deleting. Two of my friends have been banned in the last hour, and all their posts deleted. Nothing either of them said was offensive. It is a complete lie that they've stopped deleting. But if you say so, I'm sure they'll just delete it! :D
 
I was banned early on. Debbie just posted that all those that were previously banned will not be re-instated as they intravened (sp?) FB rules and policies and used abusive and foul language. I never done any of this, only asked if it was true if she has had horses rescued from her in the past.

Ive never broken any rules in my life so feel like a rebel now!
 
amymay said:
Yes, noticed that there's quite a recent post that's vanished.
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Nothing's changed. The moment someone asks an awkward question or says anything they don't agree with, the post vanishes. The statement that they've stopped deleting is a complete lie.
 
regardless of what i think of them (ie dodgy as they come) I'm glad to see they're going to go the charity route, it will make them accountable for a start:) of course it may not materialise but by then the interest will have waned and so will the income.
 
Crikey, Misty Rose looks well in pup! When will this cycle end!?

I notice Christina Lake, whoever she is hasn't been banned despite lots of questioning posts. Wonder why?

I'm not banned either but I don't want to post any more, mainly because it comes up on my news feed and I don't want to be associated with them!
 
Ibblebibble said:
regardless of what i think of them (ie dodgy as they come) I'm glad to see they're going to go the charity route, it will make them accountable for a start:) of course it may not materialise but by then the interest will have waned and so will the income.
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Agree with this.

With trying to keep up with all the updates it has kept me off ebay for nearly a week! Mmmm.....what shall I do with the money Ive saved........
 
Patterdale said:
Crikey, Misty Rose looks well in pup! When will this cycle end!?

I notice Christina Lake, whoever she is hasn't been banned despite lots of questioning posts. Wonder why?

I'm not banned either but I don't want to post any more, mainly because it comes up on my news feed and I don't want to be associated with them!
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she's banned now:rolleyes:

have you not read the touching piece debbie has written about the elderly monk:D ;) She just doesn't know when to shut up does she, one google search and the first thing that springs up is the page outing him!
 
I'm not banned :D I've asked a couple of questions about Michelle and money and one has been answered... I have to wait until tomorrow when admin have spoken to Michelle for the answer to my next questions...

Funny though, that others questions have been answered but now, Michelle has vanished from answering...

Bit strange, but hope to get answers soon!

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She also said that she got in touch with Michelle after the programme was aired. But Im sure I read somewhere that Michelle had set something up (think it was on the JCF page ) in November so surely Debbie would have known or known of Michelle then.
 
djlynwood said:
She also said that she got in touch with Michelle after the programme was aired. But Im sure I read somewhere that Michelle had set something up (think it was on the JCF page ) in November so surely Debbie would have known or known of Michelle then.
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Michelle set up the horse owners help group or whatever it is in November, of course she would know exactly when the programme was going to be aired;)
 
Patterdale said:
Crikey, Misty Rose looks well in pup! When will this cycle end!?
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I thought that, there's a picture of a 3 yo up as well and that looks either pregnant or wormy :( Someones just mentioned the lack of snow in Wales I think they may be hinting that maybe the photo isn't from today.
 
They have said not to feed us, they neglect trolls as well as horses :(?!
Seriously though, when will the followers wake up and see the real picture. They would do better to go and spend money with a reputable charity, draw attention to it that way. They are getting round to opening a bank account?! Takes a few weeks?! No it takes a meeting with a business account manager in your local banks' branch!
Why doesn't the JCF need clarifying, if I was spending my money I would want to know where it was going. They also fail to mention where it has gone and why haven't we seen any pictures of any horses in the new rugs or eating donated carrots out of shiny new feed buckets?! Just pictures of Clwyd 'cleaning up' the land he illegally squats on?!

Sorry I have to vent my rantings on here, I'm banned from the group (never posted anything offensive, I never swear on Facebook or any communication to be fair! And I never accused anyone of anything. I just asked questions that needed asking).

It also seems that you guys are my only sane contact about the whole saga! I have few Horsey friends and they 'like' the page so can't really rant off to them about it!!!
 
TBH Sherry trying to get an appointment with the business manager at the bank can be a nightmare, my Hubs has never spoken to the same one , and it took a few weeks to open his account as he is an ex bankrupt:o

I'm just going to back off and let the dust settle, the more we try and help them see the truth the more they will dig their heels in, and just like on HHO , if the arguing stops the interest will wane;) this time next week if the snow and big freeze continues there will be some other needy ponies or cats or something to take their attention i'm sure:)
 
IB - true I myself had a major problem putting my partner on my account when we bought our house for no reason at all, but thats another story ;)
It just doesn't sit right with me that they back-track and justify everything, fair enough people are digging up a lot of dirt but surely they knew this from the outset. Debbie would have been wise to remain anonymous behind the group if she did not want her story unfolding.
I understand things have moved fast for them since the show but maybe if they showed more honesty in how they presented themselves that would be a start. For instance no bans, they then ban Christina Lake, then reinstate her saying they never banned her! They must have as at one put some people were looking as if they were talking to themselves!

I do agree with letting the dust settle though and I too am trying to take a step back before I go insane! We would probably go blue in the face before they even understood the points we were raising :(
 
I get the feeling I'm going to have a Hate page made about me now... There are a few that don't like my questions, and even one woman that thought Michelle is owed at the very least a take away from people's donations and that she should take some money for herself!!!
 
EgerdenFarmStud said:
I get the feeling I'm going to have a Hate page made about me now... There are a few that don't like my questions, and even one woman that thought Michelle is owed at the very least a take away from people's donations and that she should take some money for herself!!!
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lol there will be a 'hate the haters' page and we'll all be on it:D
i was tempted to start a 'support for those banned from the supporters page' page lol
 
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