Step away from the Clwyd page!

Found the support page. Was reading Jens post about the guy living on a rbt in Exeter. I can confirm he & horse were there Friday evening when I went past. Wouldn't be surprised if horse was 23, looking very shaggy at the moment (Jen hasn't given him a donated rug). Yes caravan is small, but end of the day this is how this guy chooses to live. He travels around locally, causes no bother. Never seen a horse so immune to traffic. They are on the A30 rbt under the dual carriageway, so very busy. Horse either teathered or tied to sign posts. Friday was trying to avoid sleet by getting as close to trees in centre of rbt as possible (can't get into them, tethered). I'll let you know if I suddenly see a new caravan.

If she is in this neck of the woods (lord help us), then she is not near Clwyd.

Is that the old guy with the piebald, little green caravan (square not bowtop) and a wee dog? I have seen them just outside Wellington before, he must travel miles! I've seen the horse wearing a rug in the past, old fashioned green NZ.

So the nutter is from Newton Abbot? Yikes, that's near me, glad I'm not on facebook!:D
 
This is her too....

http://www.paganspace.net/profile/jeanetteanderson

If you so wanted, it would be very easy to get her address too. It's scary how quickly you can find stuff about people on the net. Especially if they have joined every social network going.

Trina x

DH1 - cross posted!

:D google is amazing isn't it, some people seem to forget that if they put themselves out there on the net and in the media they can be found quite easily:)
 
Guido16 - I am here don't worry, just been shovelling snow around the old estate :)

Thought I had better clear the path for the special forces that MJ was sending my way :p
 
Crikey I've just sat and read all 27 pages of this, along with following the links as they came up. These people are nuts! I can't believe anyone can take their cause seriously when some of their advocates threaten others like that!

I'm a member of several of their groups now and posted only last night (very politely) asking how their 'rehoming' is going to work and if ownership will stay with the group or be transferred to the adopter. As yet there's been no answer so I will post again!

I'd also like to know just how they're going to 'vet' potential homes for suitability? They say they can deliver even if people are some distance away, so does that mean they'll load the ponies up and travel down to vet and deliver in one go, even if people are in Scotland or on the South East coast? How can that possibly work if they're going to do ongoing maintenance checks?

It's all a bit mad! Although if the donation level is anything to go by I think that most of their supporters are either teenagers looking for a cause, people who don't know anything about horses but have jumped on the bandwagon, or others who have horses but because they can't afford their own, can't actually afford to donate to them anyway. It's certainly not money flooding in, assuming they're being honest about what they've received.

I've also reported several of the comments made by that awful Jen woman. Maybe it'll make her FB ban last a bit longer! Oh and assuming nobody thinks I'm a 'spi' or a mole could somebody please add me to the private FB group?
 
Guido16 - I am here don't worry, just been shovelling snow around the old estate :)

Thought I had better clear the path for the special forces that MJ was sending my way :p

Hoorah! Well I posted about a dictatorship and now my very clever iPad is refusing to let me on that page again. Lol

I think a ban is also coming my way from FB. Will wait and see. I am busy at work tomorrow so might not have time to check (or care).

As long as your ok.

Well done last night.
 
I think Jens still reporting my comments :( logged in a minute ago (when banned you can log in but not post etc) and 2 more of my completely-unoffensive-unless-you're-a-nutter comments have been reported! :mad:
 
Hoorah! Well I posted about a dictatorship and now my very clever iPad is refusing to let me on that page again. Lol

I think a ban is also coming my way from FB. Will wait and see. I am busy at work tomorrow so might not have time to check (or care).

As long as your ok.

Well done last night.

Why thank you :D

Remember - keep safe and away from MJ ;)
 
I think Jens still reporting my comments :( logged in a minute ago (when banned you can log in but not post etc) and 2 more of my completely-unoffensive-unless-you're-a-nutter comments have been reported! :mad:

comments from where elsie? she cant see our page i hope :confused:

she's bound to be gnashing her teeth today. if she carries on we'll ahve to get someone to go round to her house and pretend to be the social services and give her a warning!

sadly, i think that would probably be illegal tho :(:D
 
Why thank you :D

Remember - keep safe and away from MJ ;)


Just can't help myself.. :-).

For those that want on your private site from here, can you pm Julie on here and vouch for them? The more HHOers the better.

I have just posted a message to her to say some more want to join. The rule is that you say who you are on here so anyone wanting to stay anonymous should not join!
 
comments from where elsie? she cant see our page i hope :confused:

she's bound to be gnashing her teeth today. if she carries on we'll ahve to get someone to go round to her house and pretend to be the social services and give her a warning!

sadly, i think that would probably be illegal tho :(:D

Noooo from the very long thread on the Clwyd Support page last night! Dont worry!
 
I've followed it all from the start both on here and FB. I've not commented on FB but 'liked' a lot of the comments relating to where the money is going and the various queries over the Charity v dealers yard.

Having got seriously fed up of a certain person's threats to report everyone and their dog to the Police, I went for the 'report' button. Her ranting was starting to get more stupid and personal by the word. So thinking I was doing the right thing I pressed the arrow on the side of her name and 'report spam' came up. I pressed it.... and poof..... the whole thread has disappeared and won't come back.

Pity, cos I was enjoying it otherwise.

She really isn't doing the Clwyd cause any favours! :-)

Mind you, if I put my opinion on I'll join the Banned group as well.
 
Having just had a look at the original Support page I found their Q&As.

I cannot believe all the people supporting them with the "aww bless lol" mentality aren't being woken up by their refusal to answer simple questions like these..

Q: Are the horses in the pictures being posted else where his?
A: As you are all aware Clwyd is the subject of an ongoing legal case, his solicitor has expressly requested that no further comment be made publicly in relation to this legal matter

Q: Where will the horses he is apparently going to be left with be kept? As he's effectively fly grazing on someone else's land at the moment.
A: Michelles aim is to help Horses and Owners in exactly situations like this, however rescue centres are brimming and relocating wild horses takes months of work and involves significant costs, the aim of this site was to raise awareness and funding tol allow michelle people like Clwyd on an individual basis, so far paypal donations amount to around £170 meaning Michelles ability to help and the options she has available to her very limited.

Q: Why have the mares been allowed to get in foal to their own offspring, or sires?
A: Quite simply this is a result of poor equine management and is exactly the reason Michelle needs help and funding to enable her to educate and help owners to correctly manage herds, donations and help for things like electric fencing etc are all going to help her help others with situations like this.

Q: Why has it taken months to remove the colts, and three are apparently still there?
A: Michelle has assisted Clywd in rehoming over 30 horses, each one a considerable undertaking in time and resources, she has done this with next to no funding, help or support, this has been made more difficult by not been able to get a trailer onto wet land to catch horses. If you want to see michelle work faster and more effectively dealing with cases like this then why not help her in some way?

All they've done is skirt the issues so that they can point people back to these questions saying they've provided answers, which they haven't, and they're blatantly suggesting everyone should donate! Why can't people see through this? :confused:
 
I've given up on the support page, can't keep track of it with all the bannings. Quite disappointed Jen isn't from Wrexham area, I was going to mention that I knew a police inspector from there and wondered if it was the same one. ;)
 
Apparently a statement has been made on the 'Truth' FB page regarding legal action on the land.

Plus there is a young 'lady' on there stirring it up somewhat:eek: Makes interesting reading
 
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