Step away from the Clwyd page!

I think by the looks of KJA's fb page she may well be a teenager, which may explain a bit.

I suppose we all do odd and daft things when we are younger.

Not sure it's the best move to have made, but we all live and learn, and hopefully she won't treat her RL friends the same way.:(

I notice that Michelle has put a picture up on the support site of a pony named Steel on her photo album, and she says that it was one of Clwyd's horses that he got into a pen on the documentary. Yet strangely, someone has posted pics of the pony being ridden, now called Neptune, stating that he is not going to grow as much as expected due to a set back with his previous owner, but then says NOT Clwyd.

How strange.
 
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KellyJoArnold said:
Charming.. Its the internet guys, get over it.. :rolleyes:
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yes, its the internet Kelly you're right... expect there are real people behind these screens and a real issue about horses that have been left in the care of someone convicted of causing them suffering for years and these people have come together to try to do something about that, YES, in real life NOT on the internet.

Your silly selfish games took the attention on to yourself and away from the main point of the whole matter in the first place.

THAT i think you should be slightly disgusted with yourself about if nothing else as i presume being on hho you call yourself a horse lover?

Kelly, its not about YOU and your silly,desperate little attempts to get attention and while its a silly prank that for some bizarre reason a supposedly grown woman got kicks out of and no, its not a big deal in the scheme of things, lets face it there are weirdos everywhere but disrupting and causing confusion in people coming together to spotlight horse welfare and laughing over it, i really have no respect for you whatsoever for.
 
lula said:
yes, its the internet Kelly you're right... expect there are real people behind these screens and a real issue about horses that have been left in the care of someone convicted of causing them suffering for years and these people have come together to try to do something about that, YES, in real life NOT on the internet.

Your silly selfish games took the attention on to yourself and away from the main point of the whole matter in the first place.

THAT i think you should be slightly disgusted with yourself about if nothing else as i presume being on hho you call yourself a horse lover?

Kelly, its not about YOU and your silly,desperate little attempts to get attention and while its a silly prank that for some bizarre reason a supposedly grown woman got kicks out of and no, its not a big deal in the scheme of things, lets face it there are weirdos everywhere but disrupting and causing confusion in people coming together to spotlight horse welfare i really have no respect for you whatsoever for.
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I may be wrong, but I think Kelly may be a young teenager.

All the same, I do not condone her behaviour and find it slightly odd.
 
lula said:
its a silly prank that for some bizarre reason a supposedly grown woman got kicks out of.
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I think she may well not be a grown woman though Lula:

Moomin1 said:
by the looks of KJA's fb page she may well be a teenager, which may explain a bit.
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In that case, however unpleasant you may find her actions, I agree it explains it a bit. Teenagers are barely out of childhood (or seem so to someone of my great age :)) and some are definitely more childish than others.

That's not an excuse for bad behaviour, of course, but there's little point in arguing with a child over immature behaviour. :)

KJA's posts "moley moley moley" clearly was baiting people into reacting. I suggest people stop playing into her hands by reacting now. :)
 
Have dipped into this thread at intervals and Wow! has it had some interesting twists and turns! Have observed ..ah hem, that a certain KJA has stepped in and defended all the recent posters who were accused or being Trolls. Is she some sort of lone ranger cyber vigilante defending helpless posters against unfair accusations :eek::cool::D
 
TrasaM said:
Have dipped into this thread at intervals and Wow! has it had some interesting twists and turns! Have observed ..ah hem, that a certain KJA has stepped in and defended all the recent posters who were accused or being Trolls. Is she some sort of lone ranger cyber vigilante defending helpless posters against unfair accusations :eek::cool::D
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Whatever KJA's recent behaviour, she's certainly not alone in defending new posters against unfair accusations. :p

I personally can't stand the ridiculous "race to be the first to spot the troll" which goes on here. It must be very off-putting and possibly upsetting to a new poster who comes here for advice and maybe expresses themselves in a way which the troll-hunters consider to not "add up".

I'm certainly not a cyber vigilante but I'm often one of the first to try to deflect the over-zealous self-appointed troll police! :o:D:D
 
Moomin1 said:
I notice that Michelle has put a picture up on the support site of a pony named Steel on her photo album, and she says that it was one of Clwyd's horses that he got into a pen on the documentary. Yet strangely, someone has posted pics of the pony being ridden, now called Neptune, stating that he is not going to grow as much as expected due to a set back with his previous owner, but then says NOT Clwyd.

How strange.
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I noticed this too so if the previous owner isn't Clwyd are they referring to Michelle or did someone own him before Clwyd?? :confused::confused::confused:
 
Amazing...I make a valid contribution to this thread a few pages back and the need to continue the bitching and backstabbing was so great my post may actually never have existed! To make my point again, the bottom line in all of this is the welfare of horses and this thread (and from what I understand from this thread) has grossly undermined that. If, just if, they actually are trying to help horses and yet they are being bombarded and hounded, then I hope those of you responsible for dragging this down feel suitably ashamed of your childish behaviour.
If they are not what they seem, then your energies goading them is completely wasted and you need to be contacting the relevant authorities to get help for those horses.
Its become nothing but a slanging match and people are obviously getting far too intense with the consequences of legal action etc being spoken off.
Dont forget that if they do turn out to be legit,
 
PP the efforts of some of us on here have led to the rescue group designing a proper loan agreement to ensure that the horses they rescue will always be looked after. Without our questions being asked I doubt this would have happened so it is a huge step forward. Those trying to stir did not manage to stop this progress.
 
Bikerchickone said:
PP the efforts of some of us on here have led to the rescue group designing a proper loan agreement to ensure that the horses they rescue will always be looked after. Without our questions being asked I doubt this would have happened so it is a huge step forward. Those trying to stir did not manage to stop this progress.
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Thanks BikerChickone, this is exactly what needs to be happening, people working together politely to ensure any horses welfare is addressed where necessary. I hope those that are only interested in causing trouble back out and let people that want to help actually do some good (maybe by highlighting issues because it seems unlikely, if that is what an individual believes).
Well done to those people that are giving the benefit of the doubt and who are interested in trying to help horses (and people (dare I say it on here ;) )
 
Now forgive a numpty question, I haven't read the entire thread, but if these horses are loaned, who is the legal owner?
 
pip6 said:
Now forgive a numpty question, I haven't read the entire thread, but if these horses are loaned, who is the legal owner?
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Now that is the question, Pip.

And it's never been answered....................

However, unless the horses have been signed over to MC, then I suspect that those remaining will be removed from Mr Davies' 'care' in April.
 
patchwork puzzle said:
Amazing...I make a valid contribution to this thread a few pages back and the need to continue the bitching and backstabbing was so great my post may actually never have existed! To make my point again, the bottom line in all of this is the welfare of horses and this thread (and from what I understand from this thread) has grossly undermined that. If, just if, they actually are trying to help horses and yet they are being bombarded and hounded, then I hope those of you responsible for dragging this down feel suitably ashamed of your childish behaviour.
If they are not what they seem, then your energies goading them is completely wasted and you need to be contacting the relevant authorities to get help for those horses.
Its become nothing but a slanging match and people are obviously getting far too intense with the consequences of legal action etc being spoken off.
Dont forget that if they do turn out to be legit comments made on the internet, both on forums and facebook, have and will be used in prosecution!
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I don't think it's all that amazing your previous post was ignored. :) Whether or not it was your intention, the tone of your posts comes across as rather preachy and school ma'mish IMO and if that's how others saw it, it's not surprising they chose not to react. :)

I've only read some threads and posts here and on Fb, but I haven't seen anything which is likely to end up in a prosecution ;). Mostly what I've seen has been people asking valid questions, which in the main were deleted without being answered. Other than that, there have been a few personal spats which I soon lost track of, but nothing which is ever likely to end up in a court of law. :D
 
Yay! The lines of communication are open and I hope things are looking up :)
Fingers crossed now that a less rose tinted picture will be presented on the support page and more information about the horses given.

As far as I'm aware the ownership thing is still a little hairy but it is being worked out. At this moment in time I would assume that effectively Michelle is acting as a go between for Clwyd and the new home, but would hope that the ownership will reside with the rescue centre once it's all worked out.

They haven't got an easy job but an open and honest approach will help no end. I'm optimistic that things will continue to improve :) :) :)
 
guesstimation said:
Shall add a well done and thank goodness for sane helpful people!
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* takes a very modest bow and will pass on comments to all concerned * :D

Joking aside, some of us have and still are receiving a huge amount of abuse for our efforts, some publicly and more by pm. Some of this is actually incredibly hurtful when the majority of us have stated our views calmly and politely with no abuse to anyone, so if people on here read through some of the seemingly humorous stuff and find it offensive that is not our intention at all. However sometimes if you don't laugh about some of this stuff you really would genuinely cry.

Now that we have civilised communication with Michelle I can only hope that the followers abusing us will eventually catch up. Contrary to some opinions we are in it for the horses. Fingers crossed it'll all continue to improve. :)
 
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