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My ex racer mare is 4 weeks post ulcer treatment. She had 4 omeprazole injections. I will be booking her in this week for re-scope.

Although her appetite and general demeanor is much, much better, she is still a witch to tack up and also rug. She will even react to just putting a saddle pad on her back. I would have hoped I'd see some difference by now if the ulcers were the cause of the grumpiness..
I'm going to get a physio out to check her next. Teeth are being done next week. Saddle was fitted in January and being re-checked this month.

Once the saddle is on, she's fine. Doesn't like the girth being adjusted from the ground, fine if you do it in the saddle. She's lovely to ride (so far, I haven't had her long and we've had our fair share of problems along the way, so we haven't done loads). I popped her saddle on last night, after not trying since she was first scoped, she was upset, trying to bite and kick, however is easily distracted by carrots. I led her around gently, let her pick at some grass, walked and trotted in hand (less than five minutes). And she was lovely, wouldn't know she had it on, non reactive.

Anyone had a similar experience? Could this be anticipation of pain? Maybe she needs more omeprazole, we'll see on re-scope. I'm very worried there's something else wrong, perhaps skeletally, but the last vet to see her didn't think so. I will bring it up again when they come to re-scope. I'm super conscious of how much my insurance will go up following ulcer treatment and although I'd never skip anything she needed, I am worried about how much this will all cost. I was naive in thinking my freebie was actually "free" 🫣😅

I'm starting to feel disheartened. I adore her and I just want her to be happy. I've had some people say some horses just stay reactive like this, but I don't feel comfortable brushing it off as this is just what she's like.

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She looks a lovely mare. Once you have a clear scope I'd be tempted to work with someone like a natural horsemanship type, who could work through her pain association and correct the undesirable behaviours. I'm sure a couple of sessions would break the habit and instill a different reaction to saddling.
 
my mare was still a bit touchy about me putting the girth on after scoping clear, fine if she was eating or distracted by someone at the door talking to me, and fine tightening it once it was initially on the first hole.

get her rescoped and go from there i’d say, it may be that they’re still lingering hence her saying “no thankyou”!
 
Before getting the saddle checked get a physio out - we all hold ourselves tightly when we're in pain and she may well have some compensation issues for her gut.

Remembered pain is a very real thing. My littlest cob had an awful saddle when she came to me. It was brand new but I gave it back to the owner because it didn't and was never going to fit. I dodged teeth for a long time after that and even now have to do her girth up slowly and with breaks.
 
Remembered pain is a very real thing. My littlest cob had an awful saddle when she came to me. It was brand new but I gave it back to the owner because it didn't and was never going to fit. I dodged teeth for a long time after that and even now have to do her girth up slowly and with breaks.

As a kid I had a welsh A mare that came with a 'fitted' saddle. Made for her when she was 2!!! She was 4 when she came to us and had sores on both sides of her wither from the rubbing - the hair never grew back. The saddle wasn't much use for anything except maybe a rocking horse. Her party trick was rearing vertical if she felt uncomfortable. Changing any bit of tack was a challenge with her so once we got it right - it didn't change! Fab pony once you got her onside but everything was really a conversation with her. She taught me a lot and didn't suffer fools gladly, well at all. 🤣

She was stolen and return 3 weeks later!!! She seemed very smug about that.
 
Thank you for the replies and suggestions!

Had such a disheartening morning with her. My farrier cannot get back shoes on her. I sedated her as she has been difficult previously, he managed to get one on, it was looking promising, but then she was so unhappy, he opted to stop, which I agreed with. So he's had to pull the shoe back off.

She's clearly unhappy. I can't rug, tack or shoe her without issues. Of course I'll speak to the vets. But yeah, just needed a vent I suppose! Just feel so sad for her, and for myself, honestly. I've waited my whole life for a horse and so far, we've just had problem after problem 😩
 
I would get a back x-ray done by the vet as part of a work up. Sorry to say but her reactions are much like my mare who was diagnosed with kissing spine issues. I followed advice to operate for it but would not do that again. If that is the problem a lot can be done with physios, groundwork etc and I would try that first.

Have a look at Tom Beech (Osteopathic Vet)s FB pages and the work he does with Dan Wain on these sort of issues.
 
Ulcers are almost always secondary to something else going on.

In my (limited) experience, you won't fix the ulcers without finding out what the root cause is.

If it were me, I'd have a work up to see what's going on before thinking about re-scoping. I'd be surprised if you don't find something else has caused the ulcers.

Good luck! X
 
Free horses are never free. You need to budget the cost of buying one for getting them right unfortunately. She needs a proper vet work up. She is screaming there is an issue. Hopefully it is something fixable and she comes right.
 
Thank you.

Yeah, I'm sure there is something else. I have a vet calling me tomorrow, they weren't able to today, hopefully they can come and see her asap.

As I said, I'm not willing to just brush it off as some people (not here) have suggested that she's "just being a mare/thoroughbred/etc". I just needed a bit of a vent, I was very upset to see her the way she was with the farrier today, I feel so sad for her, and I don't really have many horsey friends anymore to listen to me whinge 😅

Rest assured, she will be seen to and sorted. I guess I was just hopeful the ulcers were from racing/management during racing, and that once treated, we'd be able to get her comfortable. But now it's evident there's likely something else. My guess is SI pain / kissing spine. We'll see.

Thanks again.
 
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