Still think the sun shines out of the RSPCA's behind?

[saalsk]

:But I do think it's part of a very silly bandwagon. People have real concerns about the RSPCA and those I'll listen to. But not ill-informed press links from several years ago. Ridiculous.

Well said.

Trawling the internet for 3 year old posts to try to make a point ?

Do something more constructive

 

[Shadow the Reindeer]

It's a sad place when people aren't allowed to voice their opinions,. just because it might hurt someone else's feelings. Try reading the thread through instead of glancing at the beginning and the end before sticking the knife in!

 

[ester]

That's fine but having read the whole thread I would like to know why you think the RSPCA and the other involved organisations should have acted differently given these posts.

Quote Spiritedly : Unfortunately sad as that case was the telegraph didn't show any pictures of what the horses looked like.

http://www.worldhorsewelfare.org/inf...ontent_id=3915

http://www.redwings.org.uk/welfare-cumbriarescue.php

Hardly the picture of health!

Quote KellyJo He also had 90 + (That is all that were atchually caught, so there may have been even more.) of these ponies..
Also, i would like to point out, that it was not just handled by the RSPCA.
This article : http://www.cumberlandnews.co.uk/news...errerPath=news

states "Redwings Horse Sanctuary, World Horse Welfare, the British Horse Society and Horse World were involved in Wednesday’s operation and they are housing the ponies in undisclosed locations."


I don't see how the RSPCA are responsible for a man's action after (clearly necessarily) removing horses for welfare reasons.

 

[MerrySherryRider]

Desperate to throw mid at the Rspca ? Try posting something correct and honest. Utterly stupid thread .

 

[MerrySherryRider]

Nasty dishonest attack on the Rspca. Another one.

 

[justabob]

It's a sad place when people aren't allowed to voice their opinions,. just because it might hurt someone else's feelings. Try reading the thread through instead of glancing at the beginning and the end before sticking the knife in!

Try looking at the history of a story instead of glancing at the beginning and the end before posting. You seem to have made yourself look a little bit silly. Oh and get off the bandwagon.

 

[Springy]

Everyone will probs know by now Im not the RSCPAS biggest fan...

however on this occasion looking at the evidence I think they were right to save these ponies.... they are in a shocking state....

However 2010 not that relevant

And

TODAY THEY CAME OUT AND SIEZED A PONY AT WORK YEY!!!!!!!!!!!! AT LAST... whoooopppppppppp and they have checked the rest given them hay and are monitoring I am but ..... lets hope more action is taken

 

[Queenbee]

Unfortunately sad as that case was the telegraph didn't show any pictures of what the horses looked like.

http://www.worldhorsewelfare.org/inf...ontent_id=3915

http://www.redwings.org.uk/welfare-cumbriarescue.php

Hardly the picture of health!

The RSPCA admit there was NO EVIDENCE OF ILL TREATMENT

 

[justabob]

The RSPCA admit there was NO EVIDENCE OF ILL TREATMENT

Can you back that up Queenbee.

 

[Mrs Jingle]

I am no fan of the RSPCA, but it does seem a little bit pointless to drag up cases from way back in the past that have been dealt with, mulled over and put to bed. I think both the RSPCA and their critics would be better served dealing with existing cases?

 

[ester]

justabob, that is what is stated in the article and in others if you search

maybe that was with reference to the shetlands? not the other horses? and perhaps taken out of context

because this is the joint statement:

Cumbrian horses & ponies – joint statement

Following reports in the media, the British Horse Society, HorseWorld Trust, Redwings Horse Sanctuary, RSPCA and World Horse Welfare have issued the following statement:

“The British Horse Society, HorseWorld Trust, Redwings Horse Sanctuary, RSPCA and World Horse Welfare were extremely concerned about ponies and horses on Caldbeck and Uldale Common, and at a nearby stables owned by Mr. Alan Brough.

“As a result, all these organisations supported and took part in a joint operation on 21 and 22 July to examine and remove the animals and provide, in some cases, urgent veterinary care.

“Many of the horses and ponies were thin, had badly overgrown hooves, leg and hoof deformities causing them pain and discomfort, lice and worms or painful and diseased teeth. Some had noticeable deformities of the skeleton which left them in pain or unable to keep up with the group and get enough grazing and water.

“The joint operation was carried out under National Welfare Equine Council agreement, introduced following the Amersham horses case, to help our organisations work closely together on situations involving large numbers of equines.

“All the organisations involved were saddened to hear about Mr Brough’s death, and have expressed our deepest condolences to his family.”

 

[MillyMoomie]

I too want the RSPCA to return to the organisation we all believe it should be. Actually, I think (from personal experience) that the gulf between the guys on the ground and at the thick end and the top is far far too big.

Be open how money is spent, move away from being involved in political stances. If I was managing the PR side of things, after doing that, my first move would be to really promote some of the real faces of the RSPCA, have people who have worked at the hard edge, now at the top. The current CEO is doing an appalling job of managing this charities reputation. And if the RSPCA are putting down healthy animals... don't fudge or hide the issue. Come right out and say it. And say WHY. Let the public UNDERSTAND that the reason there are so very very many healthy animals, being destroyed in the UK is not down to one charities individual choice. It is down to the greedy scumbags who breed for a quick profit, the idiots who take animals on as a disposable item, the perception that all rescue animals are damaged and dangerous goods. If I was the RSPCA and I was accused of this, I would say, Yes we do, this is why, and you Jo Public need to take responsibility for what happens to these animals. Rescues should be seen for what they are, the final destination for unwanted animals, not a fantastic, limitless facility for those who can't be bothered.

Luci07 I think your constructive points are well made and well written, however for reasons of parity here are several interesting links that seem to respond to your issues.

Firstly all charities have to account for finances and produce reports for the charity commission. Anyone can simply go to the charity commission uk website and take a look at expenditure/income etc.

I cant recall a time where the RSPCA ever tried to cover up the fact that it euthanises animals, in its history it even had 'Destruction shelters' where people could choose to take their pets to be humanely destroyed. I love all the animal charities but some play on their 'no kill' plolicy that is quite frankly misleading. The facts and figures.

http://www.rspca.org.uk/utilities/statement/0113

Also an interesting if depressing read.
http://www.rspca.org.uk/ImageLocator/LocateAsset?asset=document&assetId=1232729605371&mode=prd

I cant help but notice you have obviously had negative experiences with the RSPCA and staffys. I have had the total opposite. The centres appear to be full of them, my best friend has just rehomed a wonderful one. Plus a surprising positive story from the daily mail popped up on my browser today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...re-Bull-Terrier-bodies-dogs-Ipswich-shed.html

This information was to hand simply by using trusty google.