Coffee_Bean
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Following on from the post below, you see a stubble field, you don't know the farmer, therefore don't know if they would let you or not... there is no gate. Do you go in?!
Stubble fields- do you go in them with/without permission??
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golddustsara
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My general consensus is that if there are other hoofprints then its ok to go in.... Obviously if there are signs stating footpath only then I won't.
RunToEarth
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I pitty anyone whoever dared go in our stubble fields without permission.
What an utterly stupid thing to do, I would never ride my horse through anyone's garden, why would farmers fields be ANY different?!
What an utterly stupid thing to do, I would never ride my horse through anyone's garden, why would farmers fields be ANY different?!
megwan1
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i have been known to but i have a bit of a problem that i know all the farmers round here as my dad is one and they all know me so if i get caught i'm in the shite lol!!!
however there are certain landowners that i dont really like so ride where i fancy on his land! i've only been caught once and out ran him!!!
if i could pull the "i got lost i didnt realise we werent aloud" stunt i probs would!
however there are certain landowners that i dont really like so ride where i fancy on his land! i've only been caught once and out ran him!!!
if i could pull the "i got lost i didnt realise we werent aloud" stunt i probs would!
RunToEarth
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My general consensus is that if there are other hoofprints then its ok to go in.... Obviously if there are signs stating footpath only then I won't.
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How does that make it ok? I can hack around our fields, but it doesn't mean you can.
My general consensus is that if there are other hoofprints then its ok to go in.... Obviously if there are signs stating footpath only then I won't.
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How does that make it ok? I can hack around our fields, but it doesn't mean you can.
Eira
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No , never. This is something that drives me absoloutely insane!
One of our fields runs along a main road. There WAS a gate on it but someone removed it .. now a local RS takes horses in there to canter/gallop up
They've not had permission and they've been told not to do it because on numerous occasions they've scared the sh*t into Sol whilst i've been hacking past and because its private land .
Its just rude to do it IMO
One of our fields runs along a main road. There WAS a gate on it but someone removed it .. now a local RS takes horses in there to canter/gallop up
They've not had permission and they've been told not to do it because on numerous occasions they've scared the sh*t into Sol whilst i've been hacking past and because its private land .
Its just rude to do it IMO
RunToEarth
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i have been known to but i have a bit of a problem that i know all the farmers round here as my dad is one and they all know me so if i get caught i'm in the shite lol!!!
however there are certain landowners that i dont really like so ride where i fancy on his land! i've only been caught once and out ran him!!!
if i could pull the "i got lost i didnt realise we werent aloud" stunt i probs would!
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Wow, you sound like an idiot.
Which is probably why every single one of our gates has a big fat padlock on it. Complete pain in the arse but it keeps people out. Why do you think you have the right to go on someone else's land?
i have been known to but i have a bit of a problem that i know all the farmers round here as my dad is one and they all know me so if i get caught i'm in the shite lol!!!
however there are certain landowners that i dont really like so ride where i fancy on his land! i've only been caught once and out ran him!!!
if i could pull the "i got lost i didnt realise we werent aloud" stunt i probs would!
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Wow, you sound like an idiot.
Which is probably why every single one of our gates has a big fat padlock on it. Complete pain in the arse but it keeps people out. Why do you think you have the right to go on someone else's land?
GinaB
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i have been known to but i have a bit of a problem that i know all the farmers round here as my dad is one and they all know me so if i get caught i'm in the shite lol!!!
however there are certain landowners that i dont really like so ride where i fancy on his land! i've only been caught once and out ran him!!!
if i could pull the "i got lost i didnt realise we werent aloud" stunt i probs would!
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What a horrid attitude to take!
I am amazed that people think it is ok to ride across just anyones land without permission
I find it the height of rudeness.
We keep our horses on a farm and the owner has given us permission as to which fields we are allowed to ride in. We would never dream of going in any of the others.
i have been known to but i have a bit of a problem that i know all the farmers round here as my dad is one and they all know me so if i get caught i'm in the shite lol!!!
however there are certain landowners that i dont really like so ride where i fancy on his land! i've only been caught once and out ran him!!!
if i could pull the "i got lost i didnt realise we werent aloud" stunt i probs would!
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What a horrid attitude to take!
I am amazed that people think it is ok to ride across just anyones land without permission
We keep our horses on a farm and the owner has given us permission as to which fields we are allowed to ride in. We would never dream of going in any of the others.
stacey_lou
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in our area we have a tracks committie and we have agreements with some farmers to ride on their land but some farmers if you ride on their land with out permission theyll either chase you in a tractor or shoot at you regardless of how your horse may react
Enfys
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What an utterly stupid thing to do, I would never ride my horse through anyone's garden, why would farmers fields be ANY different?!
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Quite so.
Plain and simple, unless you live in Scotland I thought private property was still just that.
Although if faced with something like this (minus the puddles perhaps) I can imagine it would be tempting. This is next door to me, and yes, if I wanted to, I could ride on it.
What an utterly stupid thing to do, I would never ride my horse through anyone's garden, why would farmers fields be ANY different?!
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Quite so.
Plain and simple, unless you live in Scotland I thought private property was still just that.
Although if faced with something like this (minus the puddles perhaps) I can imagine it would be tempting. This is next door to me, and yes, if I wanted to, I could ride on it.
Sarah Sum1
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I would never ride on somebodys land, i think it is rude and shows very little respect. I'm also scared of angry farmers
ETS not that i have ever encounted one
ETS not that i have ever encounted one
zoeshiloh
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Luckily I know most the farmers around here and have asked each one if it's ok before going on their land. Some don't mind and others do. I respect their wishes. I've only been told off once and that was because the field had been sold to another unfriendly farmer and I hadn't realised. I apologised and he was ok with it but asked us not to do it again and we haven't. I must admit sometimes I've looked at fields that I don't know the owner of and wondered whether to risk it but I never do. It's just rude.
Silverspring
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there is no tresspaaing in scotland so it's woohoo all the way! Well once the farmers get round to cutting the barley that is!
RunToEarth
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The thing is- it used to be ok. people in the village used to ride around our fields quite a lot- my parents went by the trail of thought that if they asked, and they were considerate, then there was NO problem.
4 years a go a group of three teenagers went flying up the side of one of our stubble fields they didn't have permission to be in. It was just after harvest and due to the crap weather during the harvest a drain had become bust. The said drain had been dug up for repairing- as I was the only person at home who would have ever ridden in that field I was told to keep away, as a series of boreholes had been dug to test the drains.
One of the girl's pony's got his leg down a borehole, and to cut a long story short, it sustained so much damage although it wasn't pts it was retired from ridden work for life.
Apart from the horrible situation, the scary thing from my parent's point of view is we could have been held liable for that, and it was seen afterwards to take every possible steps to ensure it never happened again, hence the padlocks.
You don't know what dangers are lurking in someone else's fields...
4 years a go a group of three teenagers went flying up the side of one of our stubble fields they didn't have permission to be in. It was just after harvest and due to the crap weather during the harvest a drain had become bust. The said drain had been dug up for repairing- as I was the only person at home who would have ever ridden in that field I was told to keep away, as a series of boreholes had been dug to test the drains.
One of the girl's pony's got his leg down a borehole, and to cut a long story short, it sustained so much damage although it wasn't pts it was retired from ridden work for life.
Apart from the horrible situation, the scary thing from my parent's point of view is we could have been held liable for that, and it was seen afterwards to take every possible steps to ensure it never happened again, hence the padlocks.
You don't know what dangers are lurking in someone else's fields...
TallyHo123
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I think the more people who ride through private the land the less people are going to be understanding about horse riders, there are private fields near my horses and i never use them and then got chatting to the farmer and he said as long as we stick to the outside and not through the middle its fine to use them
meandmyself
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Nope! If I had to, I would ride along the side so I didn't trample any crops.
Coffee_Bean
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Just for the record- I don't. Really really miss blasting round stubble fields at my first yard, but we had permission then. I haven't been on a stubble field since sadly.
alsxx
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No way! There are loads of stubble fields with no gates by me that I look at and think that would be fun, particulary as the hacking at the moment (until I join TROT) has no where I consider suitable to have a little canter, but even so I wouldn't dare go in anyone's fields, its trespassing, rude etc etc
I would much rather get to know the local farmers and them offer for me to ride round the edges of their stubble fields (which I have had in the past) then just take it upon myself to do what I liked.
Where my parents live there is a very large private estate, however there was a track that we had all used for donkeys years (my mum had used it before me so it had been ridden along for about 30 years at least), and there was always a little grass strip left along the side of one of the fields, we used to have PC camp on this estate and the grass strip was always used for a canter. When I moved up to London I obviously stopped riding for quite a while apart from the very rare weekend back at home, imagine my horror when one saturday I was riding along said track (track NOT the side of the side of the field) and got stopped by a farm worker and accused of galloping across all the fields. I said I hadn't and that I hadn't ridden in about 3 months, and he accused me of doing it 'on that grey' with a whole group of about 10 other riders....I was pretty pissed off to be accused of something I hadn't done, and I knew exactly which group of riders it was, sad fact was that I got booted off the track back the way I had come, and no one is allowed to ride down there anymore. So don't do it, because it spoils if for everyone else!
I would much rather get to know the local farmers and them offer for me to ride round the edges of their stubble fields (which I have had in the past) then just take it upon myself to do what I liked.
Where my parents live there is a very large private estate, however there was a track that we had all used for donkeys years (my mum had used it before me so it had been ridden along for about 30 years at least), and there was always a little grass strip left along the side of one of the fields, we used to have PC camp on this estate and the grass strip was always used for a canter. When I moved up to London I obviously stopped riding for quite a while apart from the very rare weekend back at home, imagine my horror when one saturday I was riding along said track (track NOT the side of the side of the field) and got stopped by a farm worker and accused of galloping across all the fields. I said I hadn't and that I hadn't ridden in about 3 months, and he accused me of doing it 'on that grey' with a whole group of about 10 other riders....I was pretty pissed off to be accused of something I hadn't done, and I knew exactly which group of riders it was, sad fact was that I got booted off the track back the way I had come, and no one is allowed to ride down there anymore. So don't do it, because it spoils if for everyone else!
Hippona
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Most of the fields where I live are owned by the YO anyway, so they are happy for us to go in.
Luckily for horse owners in my area none of the farmers have ever stopped anyone for riding in the fields when they have been cut and baled....and lets face it, what harm is being done? I've been doing it for 30 years without hassle.....
In fact, round here its not unusual for horse riders to be in the field whilst baling is taking place......
Luckily for horse owners in my area none of the farmers have ever stopped anyone for riding in the fields when they have been cut and baled....and lets face it, what harm is being done? I've been doing it for 30 years without hassle.....
In fact, round here its not unusual for horse riders to be in the field whilst baling is taking place......
CorvusCorax
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I did it when I was younger and a bit more reckless (got banned from many a field
) but now I am an adult and know how annoying it is to have people tramping about all over your property, I'll say 'no'.
RunToEarth
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Most of the fields where I live are owned by the YO anyway, so they are happy for us to go in.
Luckily for horse owners in my area none of the farmers have ever stopped anyone for riding in the fields when they have been cut and baled....and lets face it, what harm is being done? I've been doing it for 30 years without hassle.....
In fact, round here its not unusual for horse riders to be in the field whilst baling is taking place......
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but thats not the point, if its not your land you have no right to ride over it, harm done or not. and as my other post states, there are plenty of dangers with riding up a field which does not belong to you. If farmers don't know you are riding up their fields they cant warn you of dangers which may be there.
Most of the fields where I live are owned by the YO anyway, so they are happy for us to go in.
Luckily for horse owners in my area none of the farmers have ever stopped anyone for riding in the fields when they have been cut and baled....and lets face it, what harm is being done? I've been doing it for 30 years without hassle.....
In fact, round here its not unusual for horse riders to be in the field whilst baling is taking place......
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but thats not the point, if its not your land you have no right to ride over it, harm done or not. and as my other post states, there are plenty of dangers with riding up a field which does not belong to you. If farmers don't know you are riding up their fields they cant warn you of dangers which may be there.
Demolition_Derby
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but thats not the point, if its not your land you have no right to ride over it, harm done or not. and as my other post states, there are plenty of dangers with riding up a field which does not belong to you. If farmers don't know you are riding up their fields they cant warn you of dangers which may be there.
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Which is excatly why I wouldn't do it. The fact that it's disrespectful is only secondary to the fact that I value my horse and I have no idea if there are any holes, dips, wire, ditches, bird scarers - anything that neither me or my horse would expect. I know where all the holes are around our farm and I would never just canter/gallop across a field that I didn't know.
but thats not the point, if its not your land you have no right to ride over it, harm done or not. and as my other post states, there are plenty of dangers with riding up a field which does not belong to you. If farmers don't know you are riding up their fields they cant warn you of dangers which may be there.
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Which is excatly why I wouldn't do it. The fact that it's disrespectful is only secondary to the fact that I value my horse and I have no idea if there are any holes, dips, wire, ditches, bird scarers - anything that neither me or my horse would expect. I know where all the holes are around our farm and I would never just canter/gallop across a field that I didn't know.
golddustsara
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My answer was a bit rash...Nevertheless I only ride through one stubble field which is owned by a very friendly farmer who lets riders use a specified path through it. I would never gallop all over the field and would only use this specified path. I have had a trot down the side of a field with dozens of hoofprints in but I would never have gone for a blind blast through a field I had not been in before. I will endeavour to keep to the specified stubble fields in future given your argument re boreholes etc.
TS_
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I chose yes but only because all of the land around us is owned by the same family. As in they all have the same last name (so father, sons etc) so are all conected and they give us permission. They probably don't like it that much but are always pleasant about it. So on our normal hacking roots if we see a stuble field we go in it. Although if the farmers are about we don't as it's impolite to get in their way and make them stop what they're doing just so we can ride.
Daisychain
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If the field was adjacesnt to a bridleway or by the side of the road then yes i would have a canter along it, purely because its only going to be ploughed up in a few more weeks anyway, if farmers object to that then its a bit sad imo.
I wouldnt dream of going anywhere which would cause damage to crops etc.
I wouldnt dream of going anywhere which would cause damage to crops etc.
Hippona
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Most of the fields where I live are owned by the YO anyway, so they are happy for us to go in.
Luckily for horse owners in my area none of the farmers have ever stopped anyone for riding in the fields when they have been cut and baled....and lets face it, what harm is being done? I've been doing it for 30 years without hassle.....
In fact, round here its not unusual for horse riders to be in the field whilst baling is taking place......
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but thats not the point, if its not your land you have no right to ride over it, harm done or not. and as my other post states, there are plenty of dangers with riding up a field which does not belong to you. If farmers don't know you are riding up their fields they cant warn you of dangers which may be there.
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They DO know. And they don't mind. And we know the fields and whats there and whats not. They actually let us know when the baling has been done and thats its ok for us to go in....we have had signs put up in the yard before by the farmer who owns the fields saying its ok to go in.
Is that OK with you?
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Most of the fields where I live are owned by the YO anyway, so they are happy for us to go in.
Luckily for horse owners in my area none of the farmers have ever stopped anyone for riding in the fields when they have been cut and baled....and lets face it, what harm is being done? I've been doing it for 30 years without hassle.....
In fact, round here its not unusual for horse riders to be in the field whilst baling is taking place......
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but thats not the point, if its not your land you have no right to ride over it, harm done or not. and as my other post states, there are plenty of dangers with riding up a field which does not belong to you. If farmers don't know you are riding up their fields they cant warn you of dangers which may be there.
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They DO know. And they don't mind. And we know the fields and whats there and whats not. They actually let us know when the baling has been done and thats its ok for us to go in....we have had signs put up in the yard before by the farmer who owns the fields saying its ok to go in.
Is that OK with you?
sikaran
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I'm so pleased there are so many considerate people on here! We have had people arriving in a trailer and blasting round the stubble field then disappearing! Also (and this is a separate rant) the neighbouring YM arranged for a pleasure ride to come through this farm without informing the landowners - very considerate.
ladyt25
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Yep I do go on stubble fields there is a row of 3 alongside one particular bridleway, there are not fenced/hedged along the side and basically blend into the track so yep, I hold my hand up and go on them. You used to be able to canter on the track itself but since hardcore/stones have been laid you no longer can.
Maybe farmers/landowners round us are more understanding who knows, and no harm is being done to the field when it is stubble as, as mentioned it will be ploughed up again within a couple of weeks.
I am not saying I would open a gate to go in to a field that was stubble but if it is effectively part of a bridleway......! Also, if you're saying you should cos it's trespassing/not your land does the same apply to grass fields then? It is not MY land but the bridleway runs through it so I will have a gallop!
You only live once after all - I am going to enjoy myself whilst I am here and have a gallop on my horse!!!
Maybe farmers/landowners round us are more understanding who knows, and no harm is being done to the field when it is stubble as, as mentioned it will be ploughed up again within a couple of weeks.
I am not saying I would open a gate to go in to a field that was stubble but if it is effectively part of a bridleway......! Also, if you're saying you should cos it's trespassing/not your land does the same apply to grass fields then? It is not MY land but the bridleway runs through it so I will have a gallop!
You only live once after all - I am going to enjoy myself whilst I am here and have a gallop on my horse!!!
RunToEarth
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Sorry poopymoo, I read your post as to imply that even if you didn't have permission what harm is being done.
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Also, if you're saying you should cos it's trespassing/not your land does the same apply to grass fields then? It is not MY land but the bridleway runs through it so I will have a gallop!
You only live once after all - I am going to enjoy myself whilst I am here and have a gallop on my horse!!!
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Bridleways are not designed for people to teararse round them. I find it very unfair and disrespectful that we have 1000acres of land, which in the winter I am allowed to ride on none of, including pasture, whilst bridleway users feel they have the right to gallop along it as they please. And I'm faily certain that the farmer's response is "Oh well, you only live once so you might as well bugger my fields up" ...
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Also, if you're saying you should cos it's trespassing/not your land does the same apply to grass fields then? It is not MY land but the bridleway runs through it so I will have a gallop!
You only live once after all - I am going to enjoy myself whilst I am here and have a gallop on my horse!!!
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Bridleways are not designed for people to teararse round them. I find it very unfair and disrespectful that we have 1000acres of land, which in the winter I am allowed to ride on none of, including pasture, whilst bridleway users feel they have the right to gallop along it as they please. And I'm faily certain that the farmer's response is "Oh well, you only live once so you might as well bugger my fields up" ...
Carys
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Only did once when hacking out with yard owner who knew landowner well so as she was showing me the area assumed all OK.
Certainly wouldn't have done otherwise.
Certainly wouldn't have done otherwise.