stupid driver

Agree idiot not to slow down when u clearly asked him to, or ideally using his own initiative

Can't say I'd be happy if either of my horses over reacted like that tho, were they youngsters?
 
Well the driver wasn't exactly helpful but why on earth were those horses on the road in those conditions?
If you know that your horse will jump about as cars drive through puddles, don't go on the road, where there is standing water. Riders really should not expect every-one else to think for them. We have to be responsible for our own safety.
 
Pearlsasinger said:
Well the driver wasn't exactly helpful but why on earth were those horses on the road in those conditions?
If you know that your horse will jump about as cars drive through puddles, don't go on the road, where there is standing water. Riders really should not expect every-one else to think for them. We have to be responsible for our own safety.
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Are you for real????? sheesh I don't think OP needs to be slated like this when she is kind enough to share her video. What is wrong with conditions ?? just a little damp so what we all ride out in wet weather that is NO excuse for that kind of driving. As for the horses reaction they are animals FGS they act unpredictably sometimes.

Sorry OP you did not need comments about your horses or the day you rode out on, this is why so many posters leave this forum and go over the other side.

My horse would react with a car zooming through a puddle causing a football Ratchet sound - so?? wont stop me hacking out you in wet weather.

This rider controlled her horse well, yes it got uptight but it did not gallop off or rear up, the rider did well to control the horse
 
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For all we know it was a young horse's first time out on a wet road. I've found that any horse can react to anything, whether it is usually rock solid or not.

If anyone can show me a horse that does not react to anything, I'll check if it's still breathing...
 
To be honest given the bloody speed that stupid driver came towards the horses I'm not surprised at their reactions splashing puddle or not.
The OP is in no way to blame here, they were clearly in control of their horses, wearing hi-viz & gave clear signals requesting the driver to slow down.
As for saying they shouldn't be out when the road was wet how utterly ridiculous!!
 
Not sure how people think you can get a horse used to traffic unless you go on the roads?? Not everyone has a horse who is "bombproof" but we can aspire and work towards it. The driver is a complete prat (I wanted to type something a lot stronger than that) for completely ignoring the riders and not slowing down.

I politely chastised a young Royal Mail worker today who delivers our post and hurtled around the bend on our drive and then slammed on his brakes when he spotted a car parked on the drive further down than usual, I dread to think what would have happened if we had been going out for a hack!! Drivers need to be educated about how to pass horses safely, I was horrified at my ex's mother when out in the car with her, she saw two horses, indicated and accelerated to 60 to overtake them!!!! Thank god the horses didn't react and when I screamed at her she said she drove fast past them as a neighbour had a horse come through his windscreen once and she wanted to get past them quickly! You can imagine I read her the riot act and I forced her to come out in the car with me driving so that I could show her the correct way to pass horses to keep them, their riders and herself safe.

There are far too many idiot drivers on the roads these days and I no longer enjoy hacking out.
 
Sorry should have explained it wasn't me riding, it was me sharing a video from facebook, but just showing how cameras can work and the driver got a warning off the coppers for his behaviour.
 
I saw this on facebook and yes the driver should have slowed.

I also don't think rider did himself any favours, his yelling probably spooked the horse more!
 
If you want to stop a car then point at the driver for 3 seconds and then put the palm of your hand up towards them. This technique was taught to me by the mounted police (Central London).
Also wear a long sleeved high-viz jacket as other road users can see your hand signals far more clearly.
 
Agree that the car was going too fast but I don't think we can blame the driver for ignoring riders signals to slow down as they asked a bit late.
 
I have drivers passing at this speed every day, through puddles etc. The drivers seem to think that by slowing a couple of mph that they have done their bit! (Sigh)
 
Eurrrgh had so many near misses. People are IDIOTS. Pip is thankfully very very good in traffic - people come past about 1' away, at 30mph, and he doesn't even flinch. I wear a hi vis jacket, hat band, and the horse wears a hi vis quarter sheet. I can be seen from outer space! You think people would get the idea. Arggghhh. Can't believe how fast people drive on country lanes with blind bends. I had a learner car (as in an official driving instructor car) come past me at about 50mph, and very close. Life flashing before eyes close. I hate to think what would have happened if I'd been on a young horse. I thought there was some out of control kid behind the wheel, but no, the instructor was driving! And this is the person who is teaching the next generation of drivers. Absolute idiot.

Trying to rehab a young horse atm, of course he's going to be fresh, if I ask a driver to slow down, I REALLY mean it.
 
I think it is unrealistic to expect the average driver to know ANYTHING about horses and how they may or may not react to a car passing. As horsey people we all know, but modern people do not drive around expecting to meet horses on the road.
 
Cortez said:
I think it is unrealistic to expect the average driver to know ANYTHING about horses and how they may or may not react to a car passing. As horsey people we all know, but modern people do not drive around expecting to meet horses on the road.
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I only took my driving test 18 months or so ago, and, in the UK, it's covered EXTENSIVELY in the theory test. I got three questions about how to pass horses, and one of my hazard awareness situations involved horses. I also encountered horses while taking my practical (in a busy town centre - lovely bowtop caravan).

It's not that they don't know. It's that they can't be bothered.
 
As an advanced car & LGV observer/advisor/teacher I can 100% say that was the fault of the driver and in no way can any fault be put on the rider

OH - and I do not ride so am certainly not bias on the riders side
 
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Taking a horse that reactive down such a narrow road ??? sensible???
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I have no idea where you live, but where I live in Kent all the roads I Have to use are much narrower then that road. May be that is the only way out of there yard. I do agree the horses do seem to react quite a lot but in my opinion it still remains the fault of an idiot driver and from what I have seen on that film the riders did nothing wrong.
 
Cortez said:
I think it is unrealistic to expect the average driver to know ANYTHING about horses and how they may or may not react to a car passing. As horsey people we all know, but modern people do not drive around expecting to meet horses on the road.
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It is very rare that I disagree with you Cortez, however every driver in the uk goes through the same test, it is clearly stated what to do in the Highway Code, a text every driver is tested on. Every driver should know how to pass a horse and rider correctly, let's face it, half of those riders nearly being mowed down are children. A lot of the problem imho is that in some modern cars it's is often hard to judge just how fast you are going, as it appears you are going slow, when in fact you are travelling a lot faster then you appear. Another problem is that the stereotype of only toffs and rich ********s having horses still persists, along with the fact that some people simply do not care, they are in a rush and are doing important things and choose not to slow down. A friend of mine and her horse were hit last year, a car driver on a single track road drove into them, the horse and rider went over the bonnet ending up flat on the road. The driver wound down the window and shouted at my friend that her f&@king horse had kicked his car. He then drove off leaving them laying in the road. Happily apart from scraps and bruises my friend and her talented young dressage horse were fine. This is an example of how people behave in our society now, cyclists bear the brunt of it too.
 
Sukistokes2 said:
It is very rare that I disagree with you Cortez, however every driver in the uk goes through the same test, it is clearly stated what to do in the Highway Code, a text every driver is tested on. Every driver should know how to pass a horse and rider correctly, let's face it, half of those riders nearly being mowed down are children. A lot of the problem imho is that in some modern cars it's is often hard to judge just how fast you are going, as it appears you are going slow, when in fact you are travelling a lot faster then you appear. Another problem is that the stereotype of only toffs and rich ********s having horses still persists, along with the fact that some people simply do not care, they are in a rush and are doing important things and choose not to slow down. A friend of mine and her horse were hit last year, a car driver on a single track road drove into them, the horse and rider went over the bonnet ending up flat on the road. The driver wound down the window and shouted at my friend that her f&@king horse had kicked his car. He then drove off leaving them laying in the road. Happily apart from scraps and bruises my friend and her talented young dressage horse were fine. This is an example of how people behave in our society now, cyclists bear the brunt of it too.
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True! Unfortunately, lots of drivers couldn't give a stuff about anyone or anything else on the roads. In their eyes only they exist.
 
Pearlsasinger said:
Well the driver wasn't exactly helpful but why on earth were those horses on the road in those conditions?
If you know that your horse will jump about as cars drive through puddles, don't go on the road, where there is standing water. Riders really should not expect every-one else to think for them. We have to be responsible for our own safety.
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I completely agree with you PS - to me, that is not a safe reaction, especially from the horse bring up the rear.
 
Seriously bad riding ,
To bothered getting het up to ride properly and correct the horses bad reaction .
Good job they don't work for me .
Hand signal too late .
Driver was going to fast though.
 
Sukistokes2 said:
however every driver in the uk goes through the same test, it is clearly stated what to do in the Highway Code, a text every driver is tested on.
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Unfortunately, not every driver in the UK with a UK issued licence passed their test in the UK. It is perfectly possible for a driver to have passed their test overseas and been issued with a UK licence by means of reciprocal agreements with other countries.

It's sad, but the reality is that we all have to expect every other road used to behave like an idiot and do the unexpected. If we all do that, we have done our best to keep ourselves and our loved ones safe.
 
Are the head cams safe? as everyone replying on Facebook thinks they are the way forward but I thought I read on here they are dangerous if you land on them
 
RunToEarth said:
I completely agree with you PS - to me, that is not a safe reaction, especially from the horse bring up the rear.
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I looked at this and thought the same. The driver was too fast, but there did appear to be enough space, especially if they had dropped to single file. The lead horse somehow ended up facing the wrong way, but I think it was because the rider was looking backwards and not riding forwards. The rear horse appeared OK other then a bit on his toes, until the rider had a pull, and then, and this was way after the car had gone, did it spin into the road.

I think the second horse was as much upset at the shenanigans of the first as the car.

I think it would have been a very different picture if both riders had looked forwards, ridden forwards and kept the horses in line.

But, I was not actually there, and the riders obviously felt bad was done to them.

I am not sure what they expected the Police to do, as I think most horse would have been fine with what had happened. I don't think there was enough for any prosecution.
 
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