Stupid people + horse poo in road....rant

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Not sure where we stand on this but do people actually expect us to get off our horses and clean up if they do anything in the road?!?

I am very angry. I took my new (ish) lad out on his own for the first time since I have had him home. He was pretty good, tried napping a few times but dealt with that. Then coming down a road/track we met two cars, so I got onto a drive way and waiting for them to pass.

He was a bit scared and 'relieved himself' in the road (NOT on the driveway)- a natural reaction to stress. THEN someone started banging on the window in the house next to me! I was not sure if they were just totally stupid or it was because of the poo but needless to say my young lad was a bit scared and got a bit wound up. I ignored them so they came out of the house and started shouting and whistling down the road after me!

Went back past yesterday, someone else riding and me walking - same house bangin on the window again!!

Where do we stand? should I say something to them?!
 
I dont think there is any legal requirement to clean it up..... Dog mess carries diseases so it needs to be picked up.... but you dont need to mop up their urine do you???

Perhaps this should be pointed out to the window banger
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I think in the highway code it does say you don't have to clear up after them. I may be wrong but that its what I have been led to believe.
 
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Well to be honest when I had taken the horse back to the stables I would have gone back with a bucket and shovel and cleaned it off their drive and apologised and explained.

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OP said her horse didn't poo on their driveway
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I learnt that : Dog poo has to be picked up because it contains meat, which can carry disease's should it come in contact with an open wound. Horse poo contains no meat therefor its safe to leave it on the roads.

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P.S Learnt this on Mounted Branch.
 
In my village there are a couple of old people who wait and watch when I pass. I used to be paranoid that they were going to shout at me, but one day I spoke to them. It turns out they were hoping that my horsey would poo near their house so they could put it on their roses! You just can't please them all! I'd be tempted to either ignore the window banger, or tell him you could to sell it to him for his garden! What an idiot!

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i got chased by a man that had picked it up of the road put it in a bag and came after us in a car, apparently he was worried about his granchildren chatching something. Pointed out if they were playing in it they would also be squished by a car. When we got home we phoned the police and they took statements of me and my friend. and causioned him with dangerous driving and abusive behavior
 
I have to admit, I would have been more likely to go back if a) it wasn't miles away and b) they hadn't continued banging on the window AFTER they saw my horse distressed and jumping around AND my shouting..something... at them!

I would feel the same - but if someone was that bothered they would surely just move it themselves or put it on their flowers or something - it was still there the next day.

Its not like I let the my big Labrador do one on their doorstep!

PS just to repeat NOT NOT NOT on their driveway!! I would have got off and moved that if that had happened!!
 
I am sorry to say that horse poo is becoming an issue in some quarters and if we aren't careful someone will decide there needs to be legislation as per dogs where we have to clean up after ourselves.
A member of Ramblers Assoc informed me that she hated horses because the smell and flies around horse poo on a Cotswold holiday had totally ruined it for her.
In some areas of Scotland the problem is such that BHS Scotland have issued ''dung guidance'' for horse owners
http://www.bhsscotland.org.uk/Pages/documents/BHSSdungguidance.pdf
 
Sorry I saw you said you got in a drive way I thought he had relieved himself there. If on the road and not where they would have to drive over it then fair enough. I have in the past gone back and moved some pooh outside someone's house. But if they had banged on the window I would have still gone back and shouted at them.
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They'd never cope round our stables, the roads are covered in poo (horse, cow, chicken...)!

I think for me it would depend a bit on the location, when I used to ride in Leeds we used to clear up after ourselves on residential streets - but I'd never consider it around here even if it was on a drive in a village, after all if you choose to live in the country then you choose to live in the country.
 
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Sorry I saw you said you got in a drive way I thought he had relieved himself there. If on the road and not where they would have to drive over it then fair enough. I have in the past gone back and moved some pooh outside someone's house. But if they had banged on the window I would have still gone back and shouted at them.
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no no of course not, gosh I would have got off and rubbed his nose in it! (again a joke, of course would not do that ever!)

In all fairness it has been torrential rain her for two days and the road was on a hill, it will have been swilled away by now so I am not going to lose sleep over it !
 
I can actually understand that people may get pretty annoyed when our horses crap right outside their houses - right by their exit. And I really try to prevent it from happening when riding throught the village.

However, accidents do happen - and I don't see any harm in apologising. It shows, if nothing else, that we are not ignorant of other people's feelings on our own abuses of their little piece of 'England'.
 
I live in the middle of the countryside - our village is very small and a farming community! the road leads back down to the main road froma bridle path!!
 
sorry - should have been clearer. The 'Driveway' belong to a garage that was opposite and down a little way from the house that banged. so not actually their drive.
 
I really do wonder about these people.

I am 50 years old and as a kid, living in London, I remember the rag 'n' bone man coming round with his horse and cart and people whizzing out into the road with a brush and shovel if his horse left a 'gift', to put straight onto the garden.

Most of the people I have come across who make a fuss about horse poo are 1) older than me, and 2) long term countryside residents. Have these idiots really become so detached from reality that they think horse poo is liable to cause disease and have they all forgotten that it is just chewed up grass.

I can understand people not liking the smell and the flies, I'm not too keen on either myself, but if a walker or rambler said that they did not like horses and the deposits they tend to leave. I would politely suggest that they use footpaths instead of bridleways, that way they would be safe, at least from horse poo, if not the flies and smells that are found aplenty anywhere in the countryside.

Our society is slowly going mad, when a form of transport that man has used for thousands of years, and the natural processes and deposits that occur as a result are seen as dirty and dangerous. I blame the supermarkets and Dettox advert myself, leading people to believe we can all live in a 'germ free world'.
 
What the hell happened to the generation of villagers running round after you with a shovel as they were desperate to have it for their roses??
I'll tell you what happened...townies moving into villages wanting village life without the village happenings
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TOSSERS the lot of em!!!Yes i feel VERY strongly about this,horses are part of country life,i am a townie(not by choice,i just cant afford a country property),but have my horse in a livery yard surrounded by villages,and most villagers are very pleasant...we always say good morning,the villagers say good morning back,the townies scowl at you,can spot em a mile off
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SORRY rant over,lol
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My word. Around here, you'd struggle to find horse poo in amongst the cow pats and sheep poo on alot of the roads!

Sounds like the people who move to the country and then complain that the cows moo, cockerels crow, and tractors are noisy!
 
If it's on the road then you are not required to clean it up, BUT if it was on someone's property (i.e their driveway) then you should clean it up.
 
Quote from DEFRA;
"Footpaths are ways over which the right of way is on foot only and horseriders riding on a footpath are committing trespass against the landowner. Highway authorities (usually the county council) have a duty to assert and protect the rights of the public to the use and enjoyment of any highway. In this instance, 'highway' includes rights of way. This means they are obliged by law to keep rights of way open and useable. There are various provisions that assist in carrying out this duty, for example, the local highway authority can put in place byelaws to prevent horseriding if there is a particular problem. Therefore the best course of action is to contact the local highway authority.

" Under the Litter (Animal Droppings) Order 1991 (S.I. 1991/961), dog fouling is specifically stated as an item of refuse to which the duty under section 89 of the Environmental Protection Act 1990 applies. It must therefore be removed from relevant land. Other types of animal droppings, such as horse manure, are not covered by this Order.

" However, in addition to the duty to keep land clear of litter and refuse, local authorities must also keep highways clean. In respect of this requirement, horse manure should be removed by local authorities as part of their street cleansing regime. Where there is a particular problem with horse manure local authorities are recommended to approach the local stables to see whether an alternative route for the horses could be used, or whether, to strengthen public relations, the stable could make arrangements for dealing with the droppings."
 
This reminds me of a farmer I heard about.

Townie who had moved into village went to see farmer and complained to him that his cows made to much noise and what was he going to do about it?

Farmer said "no problem"...walked across to the cows, stood in front of them, wagged his finger at them and said "right you lot, less of the noise, your upsetting the neighbours"

Needless to say, Townie didnt complain anymore....
 
That sounds familiar guido16? Some of the barns at the farm where my horse was kept were turned into houses, although the farmer kept some others and the land. The people who bought one of the barns wrote the farmer a letter asking him not to put cows in the field next to their house in the summer as they started mooing too early in the morning! He framed it and put it in his office/our storage room!
 
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I can actually understand that people may get pretty annoyed when our horses crap right outside their houses - right by their exit. And I really try to prevent it from happening when riding throught the village.



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How? Do you ban him from doing it or catch it in your hat?
 
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