Sudden onset behaviour changes...ulcers?

Eloisee

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Okay where to start... I’m sorry this may be long!
So my lad is 23 years old, has PPID, in very light work 3x a week is pretty sensitive/spooky and sharp has been all his life but over the weekend he’s just taken a 360

I went to ride Saturday and I thought he was just napping because I was riding in the school with someone, tried to shake me off twice (Something which he does if he’s frustrated/getting hot up) but there was no need for it as we were only in walk. Other horse left the school and he took off bucking with me, I stayed on but got off to check if the saddle pad was pinching and check the fit of his new martingale as it was my first ride in it...all fine. Got back on and same again.
Yesterday I lunged and he was okay
Tonight I went to ride and he wouldn’t let me tack up, puffing out his stomach so it was hard to girth up. He pulls faces when tacking up but he’s generally always been grumpy but loves his ridden work. At this point I was abit hesitant to get on so a friend went to get on and before he got his foot in the stirrups he took off bronking, said friend fell off and pony carried on bronking round the school. To continue once your off is completely out of character. He was also rounding his back before rider even got on.

He’s been eating fine, his weight is good and we just had TopSpec out to weigh. Dentist came in Feb and all was well back then, regular massage and never any issues surrounding saddle area

My initial thought was ulcers but I’ve been scanning threads and it seems behaviour changes didn’t occur so rapidly or horse was pretty asymptomatic. I rode last Friday and he was good as gold but the next day all this started .. Slip in the field? He’s not lame, no heat or swelling in any limb
He is toed out on his front fore but he’s always shod on time (was shod last Tuesday)
any advice or suggestions would be appreciated?
Obviously, I’m going to call the vets and take all the usual routes but just wondering is anyone has any input

thank you :)
 

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I'd say it sounds like saddle fit.
I'd get saddle checked and if no improvement then start going down the physio/vet investigation route x
 

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Could well be ulcers. My appy went pretty aggressive pretty quickly but it didn't affect his appetite either. I would suggest either ulcers or back issue. The way he behaves under saddle sounds like back pain so I'd be inclined to get the vet out.
Ulcers are usually- not always though- the secondary problem to pain somewhere else in the body , so it is very much possible that he has back or hind limb pain and the ulcers have developed as a result.
Given his age in particular this warrants a visit from the vet IMO.
 

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We had no other signs/symptoms beforehand - straight into rodeo bronking - then scoped & found glandular ulcers. Happened twice once before treatment & again after full years treatment.
In hindsight the only other sign he was in pain was facial expression - see Sue Dysons write ups for more info.
 

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Has he had his cushings levels checked recently?
Yes, last month, slightly higher than the cut off but since he looked so well and showed no symptoms outwardly vet was happy for him to continue on half a tab. Which he’s been on over a year now
 

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We had no other signs/symptoms beforehand - straight into rodeo bronking - then scoped & found glandular ulcers. Happened twice once before treatment & again after full years treatment.
In hindsight the only other sign he was in pain was facial expression - see Sue Dysons write ups for more info.
Thank you! Will read up!
 

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We had no other signs/symptoms beforehand - straight into rodeo bronking - then scoped & found glandular ulcers. Happened twice once before treatment & again after full years treatment.
In hindsight the only other sign he was in pain was facial expression - see Sue Dysons write ups for more info.
Thank you!
What is his reaction if you get on bareback?
didnt try that and given how he behaved I wouldn’t want myself nor anyone attempting to get on bareback
 
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