Suitable stallions?

KimberleyH said:
....that she's a little bit difficult to handle sometimes! She needs calming down, she's doing her best all of the time but I think I got her too late in her life and at the wrong time in mine to have done anything serious with her. She's about 16hh so something a little smaller would suit me much better

sorry to sound negative but from your post above i would buy something rather than breed from your mare.if your mare is a little hot this could be passed on to your foal which you wouldnt want..there are many nice youngsters for sale that would fit your bill...
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crazycoloured said:
sorry to sound negative but from your post above i would buy something rather than breed from your mare.if your mare is a little hot this could be passed on to your foal which you wouldnt want..there are many nice youngsters for sale that would fit your bill...
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Agree with this - if she has no proven competition record and can be tricky you'd be better off buying something.
 
I would buy, but if you insist on breeding look at the natives like a Conni. Avoid Welsh D's as they can be sensitive even PB's in the wrong hands, more so then the other natives.

Loading photos is easy especially as there is a step by step guide in photo galary.
 
You're entitled to your opinions and any advice you wish to give, but it would be more constructive if anyone knows of websites pointing me towards competition studs they would recommend, or horses they thing I should take a look at, as I will be breeding from my mare.

Many thanks :)
 
Well I am prejudiced of course! But if you want arab blood to event I would go with shagya blood as it has been used very successfully in trakehner and other warmblood breeding at world class level - Windfall, Sixtus, Habicht, etc all carry shagya blood from Lapis. This is a list of stallions avaliable via AI http://www.moellgaard.dk/English/Horses/Shagyas/Shagya_AI_Stallionslist.htm

I find shagya's very trainable and not hot, but they can be sensitive so if your mare is hot ...........
 
KimberleyH said:
You're entitled to your opinions and any advice you wish to give, but it would be more constructive if anyone knows of websites pointing me towards competition studs they would recommend, or horses they thing I should take a look at, as I will be breeding from my mare.

Many thanks :)
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It is no good taking that attitude as it is responsible breeding that has promoted the response & your lack of photos do not help. If you are serious about breeding & really want constructive advise then post photos of the mare. Otherwise it is worthless advice & just based on what a person likes.

It annoys me immensely when people insist on asking for "which stallion" but put no photo, little info on the breeding or what it is they want to try & breed. The amount of owners who think their mares have fab conformation when in reality they are full of faults is amazing.
 
magic104 said:
It is no good taking that attitude as it is responsible breeding that has promoted the response & your lack of photos do not help. If you are serious about breeding & really want constructive advise then post photos of the mare. Otherwise it is worthless advice & just based on what a person likes.

It annoys me immensely when people insist on asking for "which stallion" but put no photo, little info on the breeding or what it is they want to try & breed. The amount of owners who think their mares have fab conformation when in reality they are full of faults is amazing.
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This x 100.
Sounds like your motivations are all wrong and it's this sort of breeding/attitude that's such a huge contributing factor to so many of today's problems in the sector.
 
With the greatest respect, and as previously requested, please cease the negativity. Your comments have been read and noted, but there is nothing wrong with my ' motivation' and 'responsibility'. Furthermore, your comments which in some places are verging on rudeness, will certainly not be influencing any decisions i make with regards to breeding.

Thank you for the links to the studs and the PM Sue.
 
KimberleyH said:
With the greatest respect, and as previously requested, please cease the negativity. Your comments have been read and noted, but there is nothing wrong with my ' motivation' and 'responsibility'. Furthermore, your comments which in some places are verging on rudeness, will certainly not be influencing any decisions i make with regards to breeding.

Thank you for the links to the studs and the PM Sue.
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It is not negativity or rude, there is no photo of the mare, so how on earth are people meant to give decent advice on stallion suggestions? The mare is the most important ingredient to the whole process. Just because you have a mare that is the reason to breed, there is a hell of a lot more to it then that.
 
You are right about the photo, and I'm sorry I couldn't provide one.
I'm grateful for the interest taken in this thread and any suggestions people have been able to make.

There's been a slight change of plan as to the stallions we're looking at. It'll be her first, so foal might be a bit small, so no longer looking at pony stallions. This, coupled with the tendency to throw out slightly smaller foals (i've done my research!) means we're looking for something up to 16.1hh.

I've shortlisted a couple;
Mill Law
Billy Mexico
Welton Adonis

In terms of looks of the stallion, my father is really hoping for something with a large head. Strong believer in the large head = large brain hypothesis. Ideally the stallion would have some sort of competition history. My mare has a very chunky neck, something we don't want to lose when breeding if possible. If you look at demonstrator, you're basically looking at her. I've a photo of each of them, turning the same amount, and they look identical!
 
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so thats pretty much what my mare looks like, although this is actually a photo of the beautiful Demonstrator.
 
Hi Kimbereley, if thats what she looks like wow, shes a stunner.

but what people need to see to be able to give good solid advice is a conformation shot of your mare. That way the people on here who have loads of experience can advise you on which stallions can improve on your mare.

Good luck and hope all goes well.

Let us now which you use, and also next year dont forget to post pictures of baby:D
 
As others have stated, it would be almost impossible for anyone on here to give you an answer to your question 'Suitable Stallions' without seeing your mare! We can tell you which stallions we think might add what you are looking for, but we don't know what your mare will bring to the mix.

As you have now worked out how to post photos, would it be possible to see one of your mare, as there are many super stallions in the UK to choose from.

Edited to say, we posted at the same time :D

She looks very nice, but a stood up conformations shot would be more helpful :)
 
And another photo! This was taken last summer :)
I've been against uploading photos due to copyright so please don't spread the photos, and also if making some sort of comment, keep it constructive and not hurtful, it'd be like me insulting how a child of yours might look!


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She is a nice stamp of mare, my daughter's ex international show jumper was by Puchka, so I know what you mean when you say temperament must be considered :rolleyes: I would say if you are looking to event, then you have to go either full TB or very near full on her, or you might end up with something still a little too chunky.

So you need to find a TB with a big head :D

She looks bigger than 16 hands in that photo, either that or the rider is a little person :D
 
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Thanks, and its nice to meet someone who understands the temperament thing!
I'll measure her soon but i'm pretty sure she's 16hh.....prepare for me to eat my words...!

I thought Mill Law might be good, he's mostly TB.

Keep the comments coming!!
 
We just measured her and she came out at 158cm, so just over 15.2hh, however i'm not entirley sure whoever was measuring her was doing it right.....will try again tomorrow!
 
KimberleyH said:
And another photo! This was taken last summer :)
I've been against uploading photos due to copyright so please don't spread the photos, and also if making some sort of comment, keep it constructive and not hurtful, it'd be like me insulting how a child of yours might look!
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A proper, sideways on, conformation picture showing her limbs, feet & back would help. This photo does not flatter her and makes her look a cut n shut. Put your finger over the middle / rider and the two ends look like they are from different horses.

If your Dad wants a big head try a Dales? - won't be what you want but a big head on a fine horse doesn't work :)
 
Well she is no weed! I agree with Cruise, a good moving TB if you want the offspring to event. Some of Demonstrators offspring could be difficult so it may have come from sire & dam, the difficult temperment. She also looks bigger then 15.2hh but that might be because she is a deep bodied mare & the rider is leaning over.

Do you know what your budget is?
 
Frozen is not recommended for the older mare, but is fine (my mare took 2nd time frozen) for those under 16yrs. It is not impossible just needs managing & has a shorter window when inseminating.

Revoultion is full TB who has some 4yos out eventing in BYEH classes, along with his stallion son Sir Suave. Primitive Proposal has already been mentioned. Power Blade is another one to look at.
 
hello kim, as you are midlands, have you had a look at sunray stud,? they breed anglo-arabs and part breds, they have many years of breeding under their belts and many national champion stallions, assuming you are really looking around at all possibilities, could be worth a look, your foal would be around 1/4 arab and with due due respect as she is a mixed bag, could pull the whole thing together, many top performers are part arab, including warmbloods, but its not often acknowleged. good luck
 
If you go to Twemlows open day next Sunday 22 April you will see Revolution, Mill Law and my own Weston Justice all under one roof. Hopefully there will be loots of breeders there so you can learn lots about them :)
 
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