Surrounded. Dogs in season everywhere. Help please.

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Hello. Could I please have some advice?

Before we start, I am well aware that it's ethical and responsible to neuter your dog, etc. It's now booked. However, for one reason or another, not least because he is huge and our vet advised against until he was at least two, and then because we were asked by a well-known breeder in gun dog circles to keep the options open, it hasn't been done yet. I really don't want to be berated, please on that score.

We have a Coconut Retriever (neutered) and the world's largest black Labrador (shortly to have his knackers off). Last month we acquired, as a result of a cri de couer of a desperately unwell friend, a 14 month old black Lab bitch. Within a week of her arrival she started to come into season (Grrr!) and so any immediate thoughts of spaying have had to be put on hold. The dog, who has never been mated, was not interested until she reached her peak week (we're on day 3 of that now). Of course, the poor beggar is now beside himself.

That's not the issue. We can cope with keeping her crated and his howling like a wolf. It should only be a week or so until dioestrus starts again. What we can't cope with is the fact that he has taken to beggaring off. He yanked my husband off his feet this morning on his walk and disappeared. These last two weeks he has escaped at every opportunity, even leaping out of the window. He clears the 3' 6" fence around our property like it was 1 ft 6".

Why? Because our neighbour has a 9 year old bitch in season. Who, yes, you guessed it, is also in her peak week, too. Our neighbour has a large property, that is not enclosed except with post and wire fencing and no gates. He leaves his bitch out all the time.

Our neighbour has issues with us. He always has - largely to do with rights of way down a lane he owns (we live down it). We were not happy with the way he carved up contributions to its repair for the 5 properties down this lane - he was expecting us to suck up the costs of one of the other residents. In retaliation, he walled up one of our gates and removed our splayed driveway replacing it with something suitable for suburbia. That may seem irrelevant, but it's not - it has been the cause of animosity for the best part of 3 years. So, when my blasted dog shoots off for a liaison with his bitch, you can imagine the tension in the air.

What can he do to us? He was threatening to sue if his bitch is in pup. Over lack of control of our dog. The lack of control I concede. Are there rules/legislation that state that we are liable, given that he has an unspayed bitch that runs loose in an unenclosed property?
 
I'd suggest you advise your neighbour to take his bitch to the vets. They can abort an unplanned pregnancy. You should be liable for the cost.

If his bitch stays on his land and it is your dog out of control then he has a right to be upset. I don't think a 3'6 fence would be considered sufficient
 
Thank you. Yes. 3'6" of stock fencing and post and rails does now seem insubstantial. Especially as I now discover the git has also dug a hole under it for good measure.

That's very helpful. I will (try and) approach him and advise him. I have to take the wretched dog to the vets at lunchtime so will ask for full details and provide with all facts.
 
I think you need to stop your dog from straying and find some way to avoid him creating excessive noise. You need a much higher fence for starters. And a safety line around the waist of whoever is walking him too. Good luck.

As to the rest, I have no idea what the law says. However, if he were mine, I'd already have offered to pay for the bitch to have the emergency jab or even to be spayed. That being said, I also wouldn't presume to insist that she go through surgery as there may be some other reason that she hasn't been spayed, and so if my dog had sired an unplanned litter, I'd be prepared to pay the costs of that too.

Your neighbour's bitch is nine years old, and entitled to live in peace within her own property - presumably she isn't straying herself, as this would be your neighbour's responsibility to deal with of course.
 
You need to pay for a jab for your neighbour's bitch - at 9 yrs old unless she has had many litters it would be quite dangerous for her to have one so late. Otherwise, I would be driving somewhere else for walks so the poor boy can get some relief from those smells. Really good long walks and then only allowed outside on a long line so you can stop him from leaping the fence. When the week is up, I would look at improving your fencing.
 
I think you need to stop your dog from straying and find some way to avoid him creating excessive noise. You need a much higher fence for starters. And a safety line around the waist of whoever is walking him too. Good luck.

As to the rest, I have no idea what the law says. However, if he were mine, I'd already have offered to pay for the bitch to have the emergency jab or even to be spayed. That being said, I also wouldn't presume to insist that she go through surgery as there may be some other reason that she hasn't been spayed, and so if my dog had sired an unplanned litter, I'd be prepared to pay the costs of that too.

Your neighbour's bitch is nine years old, and entitled to live in peace within her own property - presumably she isn't straying herself, as this would be your neighbour's responsibility to deal with of course.

Thank you. Yes, as I have said, I'll approach him and offer to pay.

It's a bit difficult to offer this up front when you have your neighbour and his wife shouting and swearing at you and you are trying to drag your dog off his bitch (who yes, does come onto my property occasionally, and into my house) and there's already a history of confrontation. It didn't occur to me to offer it up front there and then. I'm not a very confrontational person - call me pathetic if you like but that's the way it is.

And I did say I concede, our dog at present is out of control. I live in the middle of nowhere in a hamlet of 7 houses, very well spaced apart - have done for the last 6 years without issue. The sooner we move, the better. What I didn't want is the neighbour slapping a law suit on us for various issues without knowing what issues could be raised. You have kindly given me the information I need to avert any further costly and embarrassing circumstances, for which I thank you.
 
As above, you need to offer to pay for a vet's visit for the bitch and either the mismate jab or whatever other action is needed, unfortunately it is your responsibility to keep the dog under control. Hopefully now you are aware of his determination you can make sure it doesn't happen again until he is castrated. Just one other thing, as I am curious, what is a Coconut retriever or is it the wonders of predictive text ?
 
A coconut retriever is a pure breed of sporting dog in the Caribbean islands.
It has an amazing ability to sniff out and retrieve coconuts from great distances.
 
A coconut retriever is a pure breed of sporting dog in the Caribbean islands.
It has an amazing ability to sniff out and retrieve coconuts from great distances.
:D

Pure breed of approximately 57 varieties. Approximately labrador in size. May look like anything from an Afghan Hound x Schnauzer to a Bichon Frise x GSD. Those that smaller in stature with shorter, often bandy legs, are referred to as Caribbean Crab Hounds.

My Coconut Retriever is 11 years old, looks vaguely like a chocolate lab until you get close and find he has the waist of a whippet, the snout of a weimerana and ears like a pointer. I found him in a cardboard box at the side of the road, along with 7 other puppies of approximately 5 weeks, about 500 yards from the Humane Society. I was giving a riding lesson at the time to some kids on some ex-racehorses with cocaine habits (the horses, not the kids) at the time and they thought a box travelling by itself and squeaking was the best high ever (the horses, not the kids). He came over to the UK in 2007.

Thank you for the advice re my Loverdog. I am now armed with a great pile of information from the vet, including costs, times and consultations and have scheduled a visit to the neighbour. The vet suggested that other male dogs in the vicinity may also have had a go, and judging by the howling going on last night, not by ours, I suspect he may be right.

I appreciate your comments. Our windows and doors are all locked against possible escape, and the husband took the chain lead on his walk this morning. As we are moving, the fence won't be made higher but extra measures against escape will be put in place.
 
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Crossbreed, CROSSBREED : eek :
How very dare you suggest such a thing :)
My friends Harvey is pure coconut retriever, blue blooded at that.
He will be distraught at such a dreadful slur on his pedigree.
;) ;) ;)
 
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