suspected sarcoid

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any advice. my 16hh warmblood developed what we thought was an infected fly bite on her face approx 6 weeks ago. despite wound management a course of antibiotics and a nightmare with flies it has not got better so had vet out. she wasnt sure but suspected sarcoid flat occult in early stages and has sent photo to proffesor for advice.still not sure but suggest biopsy however everything i have read says this may worsen the problem so worried. she is now in stable for day out at night to control fly damage. area about 1cm ,and seems to be drying up slightly raised hairless area round it.any help appreciated.
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I have a horse with a sarcoid by the eye and tried Camrosa to start with. It made it swell up to about 5 times the size but I kept on with the thought it must be working and would turn the corner one day. In the end my vet sent photos to Dr Knottenbelt on the thought of getting him booked into Liverpool(thought it may be a carcenoma (sp?)). Dr K said hed save us the money and that it was definetly a sarcoid and to inject with BCG vaccine. About 7 injections later (started off a week between, now 3 weeks) its now smaller than when I brought him, another 2 and we are hoping it will be gone.
Next time (and I think a candidate may have arrived last week) I wont hesitate to go straight to the injections.
 

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A friend of mine (Camerton on here) has a shetland with a lump on his top lip. It grew fairly quickly and the vets suspected initially an abcess and then a sarcoid. when they biopsied it, it came back as an unusual infection and was cut out and needs antibiotic treatment. It was called Botryomycosis and can be caused by trauma introducing bacteria under the skin. It may take a while but is treatable.

Definitely worth a biopsy to find out once and for all.
 

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I have a palomino with a white nose and had to call the vet out on last week as he has developed a number of wart looking lumps on his bottom lip. The vet asked had a look and asked his age (he is 14) she said that at his aged he could not be getting sarcoids and they are likely to be warts. She has not given me anything for him and just said to take a picture and if they get any worse take another picture and they will send it off to be reviewed!! Also she said that they could take 2 months to go. So now I am not sure what to do, if they do grow I am not sure whether to send the pictures or ask for a second opinion...
 

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my horse is 14 and has never had this before. as she only has one and is not growing fast concerned that biopsy may reseed or accelerate growth if it is sarcoid .plan to take regular photos to check myself
 

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No my horse has never had them before this is the first time. He has two main clusters of little warts and then a number of individual ones. That is always the worry if you do start prodding and poking them will you upset them, or do you just wait and see, that is my main problem at the moment as 2 months seems like forever!!
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Try using homeopathic Thuja tablets from Boots - they might not work (but wont do any harm!) and they did get rid of my Arab's warts. Saying that, warts can spontaneously disappear anyway, but at least you feel that you're doing something! I gave him the tablets in a piece of carrot or apple. I think that you can get Thuja cream as well now - maybe try Hilton Herbs - they'll probably do something for warts.
 

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Would really agree with Thuja approach - and its non-invasive and gentle : our gelding had two sarcoids which have both entirely gone after we gave him thuja tabs (220 strength) in his feed, with 8 weeks on/4 weeks off over a period of 6 months And I recently found something very similar on my mare's belly to what you describe; thought it might be an infected fly bite at first, but am now suspecting sarcoid/wart. I've applied Thuja/Wichhazel ointment (Hilton Herbs), and am giving her tablets, and its already really reduced in size. Maybe coincidence, but I'd be ready to swear that it works!
 

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at present decided not to go with biopsy as not growing obviously at the moment. but will pursue thuja, any one used global herbs sarc-ex or equimunr by hilton herbs.vet says flies can be major factor and they have been more agressive due to hot weather.going on hols in 2 weeks and worried sick about leaving her in others care just in case it gets worse. any one else keeping frustrated horses in during the day whilst sun shines
 

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I have heard that biopsies can make the sarcoids aggressive, and to only treat sarcoids if they are seriously causing a problem.

If it were me, I would get a second opinion from a specialist equine hospital that has expertise in sarcoids. Your local vet could make it worse - this happened to a lady at my yard. The local vet removed a sarcoid on her horse which wasn't really causing any problem, it just looked unsightly, it got hugely worse, so she ended up at Liverpool hospital where they told her she probably wouldn't be there if the local vet had left it alone.

Be really, really careful, that's my advice.
 

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My boy had a small sarcoid which he's had for ages but suddenly a while ago it grew and began looking gross. Vet advised Cut Heal spray (our ones swear by this stuff!), put him on a quick course of bute and gave him an injection (which was ummm..... something beginning with P....!). I applied cut heal every day for about a week and half and now its pretty much healed right up and the hairs growing back (and its shrunk again!).

Otherwise your vet can take a photo of it and send it to the University of Liverpool who have some fab cream which is meant to really help sarcoids (I havent tried it but its meant to be excellent).

Id definately recommend cleaning it every day with salty water then putting on Cut Heal until it heals. Worth a shot anyway.
 

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A friend treated her daughters pony's sarcoid with 'extra strength bazooka'.It is gone now and left no marks but it was on the chest.
 
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