Swelling at back of cannon bone. Circles round - spiril shape. Raised. Not soft like a vein.

[Maureen Davies]

Has anyone seen any swelljng that looks like it's raised, no heat in it, not soft, but very strange in that it wraps around the leg. Very definite. Dont know how long it's been there. New horse (6 months ago. Very thick feather), I shaved this off to get a better look. Had a recent absess which I think is resolved now. Horse is still lame. Seen by vet 4 times. Scanned but she didn't think it was a vein on the scan. Referred to Equine hospital but will be waiting 4 1/2 weeks to be seen. If anyone has ever seen anything this shape please let me know.

 

[shortstuff99]

It could be chronic progressive lymphedema, which can be found in feathered breeds? https://ceh.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/health-topics/chronic-progressive-lymphedema-cpl

 

[Maureen Davies]

Gosh. He passed a 5 stage veiling on 27th January. How could they have missed that? So worried about him.

 

[HeyMich]

Gosh. He passed a 5 stage veiling on 27th January. How could they have missed that? So worried about him.

Who did the vetting for you? Were they recommended by the sellers or did you find them independently? That would be my first port of call - ask them for copies of notes/photos etc taken on the day. How soon after the vetting did the symptoms start to appear?

Unfortunately, vettings just give you a snapshot of the health of the horse on that particular day - if there were no signs or symptoms, there will be no comeback from the vetting vets or the sellers, and you'll just have to treat the horse you have in front of you now.

Good luck with it all, hope he improves quickly.

 

[Maureen Davies]

Sending a message to the vet now. Heartbreaking.

 

[shortstuff99]

I can't imagine most vets check for it really.

 

[I'm Dun]

It doesnt have to be CPL. For some reason lots of people are keen to say their horse has this, but its really not common. Lots of hairy horses have things like that from historical mite damage, that never change once the mites are eradicated. I wouldnt be too worried about it just yet. I also dont think its responsible for the lameness, as it doesnt look sore or irritated.

 

[shortstuff99]

It doesnt have to be CPL. For some reason lots of people are keen to say their horse has this, but its really not common. Lots of hairy horses have things like that from historical mite damage, that never change once the mites are eradicated. I wouldnt be too worried about it just yet. I also dont think its responsible for the lameness, as it doesnt look sore or irritated.

I was guessing the OP would discuss it with their vet, none of us can diagnose on the internet but it is something to consider.

 

[Maureen Davies]

It doesnt have to be CPL. For some reason lots of people are keen to say their horse has this, but its really not common. Lots of hairy horses have things like that from historical mite damage, that never change once the mites are eradicated. I wouldnt be too worried about it just yet. I also dont think its responsible for the lameness, as it doesnt look sore or irritated.

I'll be devastated if it is. Surely if he has seen the vet 4 times (not including the 5 stage vetting) someone would have said about this condition by now? But the images of the circle look identical. How am I going to get the time in for the wait fir the Equine Hopital appointment. Wonder if there is any blood test for this that can be done.

 

[saddlesore]

That picture does look quite like CPL, but I’m not a vet. There’s a lot of good info on the link below. I doubt it’s linked to the lameness though

https://chronicprogressivelymphoedema.com/combined-decongestive-therapy/#page-jump-sbw

 

[I'm Dun]

I was guessing the OP would discuss it with their vet, none of us can diagnose on the internet but it is something to consider.

Given the vets involvement, you'd hope they would have diagnosed it by now. This is why I doubt it is and why the pony has been referred to vet hospital for lameness. I see an awful lot of people diagnosing CPL themselves and then worrying themselves sick about it, yet its almost never diagnosed by vet. So that makes me very sceptical about it. Even the link above is encouraging owners to diagnose and treat with no vet input which is madness.

 

[Maureen Davies]

Rang and left a message for vet to phone me back. I know it's madness. 2 vets said they had no idea what the round circle swollen ring was. One said she thought it was a swollen vein, the other scanned and said it wasn't a vein. He was lame on the lunge, his foot had been nevre blocked, so vet said it wasn't his foot. So referred him to Equine hospital for lameness assessment. No one has ever seen the round swelling before, but there are similar round circular swellings in the sites for Cpl. I really hope it's not that. Going to clip off rest of feather.

 

[shortstuff99]

Given the vets involvement, you'd hope they would have diagnosed it by now. This is why I doubt it is and why the pony has been referred to vet hospital for lameness. I see an awful lot of people diagnosing CPL themselves and then worrying themselves sick about it, yet its almost never diagnosed by vet. So that makes me very sceptical about it. Even the link above is encouraging owners to diagnose and treat with no vet input which is madness.

There are still a lot of conditions that vets aren't that up on, PSSM being the famous one. It never hurts to ask the vets to take a look at whether they think it could be CPL or not and it is something else ruled out if it's not.

 

[tda]

I've been reading about CPL a lot over the last week, my dales boy has historical mite damage, thickening etc, they have really got worse this summer, still not sure if it's just mites again (being treated ) or start of CPL
Vets not really up on it as it's more of a management/lifestyle issue

 

[Maureen Davies]

Given the vets involvement, you'd hope they would have diagnosed it by now. This is why I doubt it is and why the pony has been referred to vet hospital for lameness. I see an awful lot of people diagnosing CPL themselves and then worrying themselves sick about it, yet its almost never diagnosed by vet. So that makes me very sceptical about it. Even the link above is encouraging owners to diagnose and treat with no vet input which is madness.

Yes, I agree that there is no point trying to diagnose this condition myself! He doesn't have any sweeling, he isn't sore and no sores etc. His limbs are clean apart from. That one strange circular lump above the fetlock. He doesn't have any other lumps on or below the fetlock at all. So I don't think it's that. Will wait to I go to Eqine hospital, that's the only place where I will be able to get to the bottom of it. Thanks everyone.